• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:20
CEST 01:20
KST 08:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon76Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?174Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism
Tourneys
SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? ASL22 General Discussion Broodwar Prediction Market
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group C [ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group A Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7669 users

[Patch 3.05.1: Karma Remake] General Discussion - Page 35

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 39 Next All
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 30 2013 18:53 GMT
#681
On March 31 2013 03:40 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 02:08 wei2coolman wrote:
Hmm, the more I think about it; how much does sunfire cape in terms of helping to push? The more I watch it in pro-games, it doesn't seem like it helps all that much in splitpushing. The only time it improves splitpushing is when there's a HUGE, HUGE wave, and it makes pushing that wave like 3-4 seconds faster; but it seems pretty insignificant in smaller waves.

On other note
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/02/18/china-opens-questionably-licensed-league-of-legends-restaurant-demacia/

I'd totally go to a LoL themed cafe.

It helps quite a bit if you're a hard splitpusher with absolutely no natural waveclear
basically shen


It depends how fast you get it, it does less and less as minons get buffer.

if you want split push get Ravenous Hydra, anyone can destroy waves.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
March 30 2013 19:02 GMT
#682
On March 31 2013 02:37 gtrsrs wrote:
WOW GUYS THIS IS TERRIBLE KARMA WAS MY FAVORITE CHANPIOM I HAD 4 GAMES WITH HER IN SEASON 2 SHE WAS VIABLE BORDERING ON OVERPOWERED AND NOW ROIT HAS REMADE HER INTO A WALKING PILE OF POOPOO AND THE NEW KARMA IS NOTHING LIKE THE OLD ONE DESPITE SHARING A NUKE, A TETHER, A SHIELD AND MANTRA WHAT THE FUUUUUCK THIS GAME IS TAKING A TURN FOR THE WORSE


^all of you guys, right now
It's embarrassing


I must admit I smirked
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 19:06:38
March 30 2013 19:06 GMT
#683
On March 31 2013 03:53 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 03:40 thenexusp wrote:
On March 31 2013 02:08 wei2coolman wrote:
Hmm, the more I think about it; how much does sunfire cape in terms of helping to push? The more I watch it in pro-games, it doesn't seem like it helps all that much in splitpushing. The only time it improves splitpushing is when there's a HUGE, HUGE wave, and it makes pushing that wave like 3-4 seconds faster; but it seems pretty insignificant in smaller waves.

On other note
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/02/18/china-opens-questionably-licensed-league-of-legends-restaurant-demacia/

I'd totally go to a LoL themed cafe.

It helps quite a bit if you're a hard splitpusher with absolutely no natural waveclear
basically shen


It depends how fast you get it, it does less and less as minons get buffer.

if you want split push get Ravenous Hydra, anyone can destroy waves.


unlike this item sunfire isn't shit tier in teamfights when you are playing a champion who's role isn't to do damage or is ap (like elise)
Carrilord has arrived.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 30 2013 19:07 GMT
#684
<<3 loco good luck man,hopefully you can stay on this team for a long time and you guys have decent success
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 19:16:26
March 30 2013 19:12 GMT
#685
TOO's little bro is actually mechanically proficient; his stream pretty entertaining too.

On the topic of Hydra; I'm really surprised it's not picked up more often in pro-tier games.
It seems like one of the best solo damage item you could pick up for a lot of split pusher in late game.
liftlift > tsm
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
March 30 2013 19:16 GMT
#686
On March 31 2013 02:22 locodoco wrote:
so excited for spring its gonna be so much fun

Thanks for all the regular updates for your TL fans. T.T
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
March 30 2013 19:19 GMT
#687
On March 31 2013 03:04 HeroHenry wrote:
Are the GP10 quints worth it for a support page or am I better off going something like armor?


Yes, most definitely. They're a major source of income. Gp/10 seals aren't really worth it though.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 19:21:55
March 30 2013 19:20 GMT
#688
How's Karma solo mid now? I really want to try it but on the other hand don't want to get flamed to hell and so on.

Her E at least seems to be really nice.

I hope Mantra still stacks at least to two, being able to only use one Mantra ability in a teamfight would be quite meh considering she has no ult. Maybe I'll give it a try the next time I'm mid.


About Ravenous Hydra: It's really good for outsustaining your opponent. The passive is some awesome burst on a low cooldown as well. I guess it sort of overlaps with BotRK, though. Still, I could see it being used on AD casters who don't auto that much.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 19:25:26
March 30 2013 19:23 GMT
#689
I only really like it on WuKong, auto > Q > active gets a lot of milage from it. and he sucks at pushing despite having tools to split push (w). WW is super good with it too imo.
Carrilord has arrived.
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
March 30 2013 19:30 GMT
#690
I liked it on jax but botrk prolly better now
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 19:38:38
March 30 2013 19:35 GMT
#691
On March 31 2013 04:19 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 03:04 HeroHenry wrote:
Are the GP10 quints worth it for a support page or am I better off going something like armor?


Yes, most definitely. They're a major source of income. Gp/10 seals aren't really worth it though.

if you are real greedy you can run armor reds and gp yellow/quints

also hydra on nasus massively increases your lifesteal (read: massive)
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 30 2013 19:37 GMT
#692
I've seen some Udyr builds with Hydra/BT, dunno if it works given some of the changes though.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
March 30 2013 19:38 GMT
#693
On March 31 2013 00:52 Slusher wrote:
Obviously the real problem is they were busy with the art design for Zac.

Honestly the most disappointing champion, art wise, that has even been introduced. When I saw the first preview thing, like the thing with the lab report and whatnot I pictured Slimer from ghostbusters, or like Jabba the hut, but when he the "reveal" comes out we see that it's just a human that is green. But in the shots we see a picture from what we now know is his ult where he is turned into a ball, and I thought mabye human is just his idle shape. Nope, imagine, on his Q if his hands turned into hammers and he smashed them together. Imagine on his E if he morphed into an actual slingshot, imagine the third jump of his ult he turns into an anvil, and even add a CLANG! sound effect. Instead we just have a green human with a recolor for a skin, what a dissapointment.


As a huge Dragonball Z fan, I'm more than happy to have Super Buu in a game I play.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 30 2013 19:42 GMT
#694
So. I just played a blind pick normals with Zac mid. 2.4 second cooldown on an AoE 21% max health damage spell is quite interesting.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
March 30 2013 19:48 GMT
#695
He'd need 650 AP to do that. Any caster with 650 AP hurts.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
March 30 2013 19:49 GMT
#696
On March 31 2013 04:38 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 00:52 Slusher wrote:
Obviously the real problem is they were busy with the art design for Zac.

Honestly the most disappointing champion, art wise, that has even been introduced. When I saw the first preview thing, like the thing with the lab report and whatnot I pictured Slimer from ghostbusters, or like Jabba the hut, but when he the "reveal" comes out we see that it's just a human that is green. But in the shots we see a picture from what we now know is his ult where he is turned into a ball, and I thought mabye human is just his idle shape. Nope, imagine, on his Q if his hands turned into hammers and he smashed them together. Imagine on his E if he morphed into an actual slingshot, imagine the third jump of his ult he turns into an anvil, and even add a CLANG! sound effect. Instead we just have a green human with a recolor for a skin, what a dissapointment.


As a huge Dragonball Z fan, I'm more than happy to have Super Buu in a game I play.


It's funny I came in trying out Zac thinking he'd be just that another human but green. Yet when I played him and watched others play him I don't get that impression he moves odd he's elastic and goopy. I dunno I like how he moves and looks. He's humanoid but not really ya know?
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 19:57:33
March 30 2013 19:56 GMT
#697
On March 31 2013 02:23 Antyee wrote:
Stephen Ellis ‏@snoopeh
Looking for a Jungler. Diamond 1 Minimum, speaks English and can live in Germany - more details to follow over the next few days.

I wonder..

Now he wrote on his stream:

Regarding the tweet - basically something came to fruition that I had been working on the past 5 months or so - looking at the options now of whether it is worth chasing or not and suitable replacement can be found.


As an EG fan and a moderate Snoopeh hater (well I know his limitations) the possibility that he might leave EG (possibly only as a player) makes me very excited. :D
He would be much better suited as a manager or similar.

The most obvious and possibly best replacement would be Malunoo, if he is still available and up for it. Another possibility is Frogurt, who already subbed for Snoopeh in scrims and apparently did really well. I could also imagine Hulberto who is one of the best junglers in soloq.
Off-season = best season
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 20:03:19
March 30 2013 19:56 GMT
#698
On March 31 2013 04:38 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 00:52 Slusher wrote:
Obviously the real problem is they were busy with the art design for Zac.

Honestly the most disappointing champion, art wise, that has even been introduced. When I saw the first preview thing, like the thing with the lab report and whatnot I pictured Slimer from ghostbusters, or like Jabba the hut, but when he the "reveal" comes out we see that it's just a human that is green. But in the shots we see a picture from what we now know is his ult where he is turned into a ball, and I thought mabye human is just his idle shape. Nope, imagine, on his Q if his hands turned into hammers and he smashed them together. Imagine on his E if he morphed into an actual slingshot, imagine the third jump of his ult he turns into an anvil, and even add a CLANG! sound effect. Instead we just have a green human with a recolor for a skin, what a dissapointment.


As a huge Dragonball Z fan, I'm more than happy to have Super Buu in a game I play.

Weird, Buu is the worst villain in DBZ by far. Such a disappointment after Cell.

Also I'm having a tough time dealing with the enemy jungler timing my blue when I'm a mana hungry mid. The only thing I can do is pray that my jungler gets it? I really feel like playing only manaless mids for this reason.


Oh Frogurt? I've played quite a few normals with him and Kerp way back, he always was worse than Kerp though.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 30 2013 19:57 GMT
#699
On March 31 2013 04:48 Sven Stryker wrote:
He'd need 650 AP to do that. Any caster with 650 AP hurts.

That is true. But it was still hilarious to see him jump into their team, start ult and spam his W while bouncing around destroying everyone. Suppose our Amumu jungle's flash/ult didn't hurt either.

Not often casters nuke entire teams. ;-)
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 20:04:43
March 30 2013 20:03 GMT
#700
On March 31 2013 04:56 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 04:38 RagequitBM wrote:
On March 31 2013 00:52 Slusher wrote:
Obviously the real problem is they were busy with the art design for Zac.

Honestly the most disappointing champion, art wise, that has even been introduced. When I saw the first preview thing, like the thing with the lab report and whatnot I pictured Slimer from ghostbusters, or like Jabba the hut, but when he the "reveal" comes out we see that it's just a human that is green. But in the shots we see a picture from what we now know is his ult where he is turned into a ball, and I thought mabye human is just his idle shape. Nope, imagine, on his Q if his hands turned into hammers and he smashed them together. Imagine on his E if he morphed into an actual slingshot, imagine the third jump of his ult he turns into an anvil, and even add a CLANG! sound effect. Instead we just have a green human with a recolor for a skin, what a dissapointment.


As a huge Dragonball Z fan, I'm more than happy to have Super Buu in a game I play.

Weird, Buu is the worst villain in DBZ by far. Such a disappointment after Cell.

Also I'm having a tough time dealing with the enemy jungler timing my blue when I'm a mana hungry mid. The only thing I can do is pray that my jungler gets it? I really feel like playing only manaless mids for this reason.


drop a ward, play lux

apart from that all you can do is coordinate with your jungler. time when it spawns, shove the wave when it does and if the enemy jungle tries to steal or something you can just 2v1 him.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 751
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 9885
Artosis 1353
Dewaltoss 87
NaDa 21
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm151
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Doublelift4950
JimRising 482
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1390
minikerr48
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King194
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu403
Other Games
summit1g17128
Liquid`RaSZi2169
Tasteless614
XaKoH 190
Organizations
StarCraft 2
StarCraft2380
Other Games
gamesdonequick2317
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 846
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm616
Other Games
BasetradeTV44
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH332
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• EnkiAlexander 98
• Azhi_Dahaki36
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22623
Other Games
• Shiphtur188
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
10h 40m
Light vs JyJ
Soulkey vs hero
WardiTV Weekly
11h 40m
Monday Night Weeklies
16h 40m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 10h
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
1d 11h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
GSL
6 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
6 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.