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[Patch 3.05.1: Karma Remake] General Discussion - Page 34

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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
March 30 2013 17:39 GMT
#661
On March 31 2013 02:23 Antyee wrote:
Stephen Ellis ‏@snoopeh
Looking for a Jungler. Diamond 1 Minimum, speaks English and can live in Germany - more details to follow over the next few days.

I wonder..


Nothing to wonder. Germany is full of dark haunted castles riddled with mad scientists. Can only be one conclusion.

Body swap.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 30 2013 17:43 GMT
#662
Choice cuts from Reddit's week 7 trash talk thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1batee/lcs_week_7_trash_talk_thread_naeu_edition/
+ Show Spoiler +

HOTSHOT IS SO BAD THAT CLG MADE A STRATEGY THAT REVOLVES AROUND HIM DYING

PHREAK'S CHINSTRAP BENCHED BY RIOT, HAS MORE IMPACT ON S3 FINALS THAN TSM BENCHING CHAOX
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 30 2013 17:48 GMT
#663
On March 31 2013 02:37 gtrsrs wrote:
WOW GUYS THIS IS TERRIBLE KARMA WAS MY FAVORITE CHANPIOM I HAD 4 GAMES WITH HER IN SEASON 2 SHE WAS VIABLE BORDERING ON OVERPOWERED AND NOW ROIT HAS REMADE HER INTO A WALKING PILE OF POOPOO AND THE NEW KARMA IS NOTHING LIKE THE OLD ONE DESPITE SHARING A NUKE, A TETHER, A SHIELD AND MANTRA WHAT THE FUUUUUCK THIS GAME IS TAKING A TURN FOR THE WORSE


^all of you guys, right now
It's embarrassing

I would never have the balls to put it as bluntly as you but I kinda feel the same way. Not saying that some complaining isn't warranted, but I didn't realize TL has so many dedicated Karma players until recently.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 30 2013 17:50 GMT
#664
On March 31 2013 02:48 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 02:37 gtrsrs wrote:
WOW GUYS THIS IS TERRIBLE KARMA WAS MY FAVORITE CHANPIOM I HAD 4 GAMES WITH HER IN SEASON 2 SHE WAS VIABLE BORDERING ON OVERPOWERED AND NOW ROIT HAS REMADE HER INTO A WALKING PILE OF POOPOO AND THE NEW KARMA IS NOTHING LIKE THE OLD ONE DESPITE SHARING A NUKE, A TETHER, A SHIELD AND MANTRA WHAT THE FUUUUUCK THIS GAME IS TAKING A TURN FOR THE WORSE


^all of you guys, right now
It's embarrassing

I would never have the balls to put it as bluntly as you but I kinda feel the same way. Not saying that some complaining isn't warranted, but I didn't realize TL has so many dedicated Karma players until recently.


Ever since Karma came out the only person on TL that I ever saw advocating Karma play was Smash. And I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually happy about the re-work.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 17:54:44
March 30 2013 17:53 GMT
#665
In fairness, the fact that Tether is no longer ally-cast and has no pass-through effect makes it a totally different skill.

But that's not that relevant seeing as the old Tether was probably Karma's worst skill.

The only thing I'd really be bummed out about is that they turned Mantra into a skill that has to be leveled at 6/11/16 rather than rather being auto-leveled and having the other skills go to 6 ranks, like before. I don't see how the way it is now is better and it made her somewhat unique.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 30 2013 17:57 GMT
#666
On March 31 2013 02:50 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 02:48 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 31 2013 02:37 gtrsrs wrote:
WOW GUYS THIS IS TERRIBLE KARMA WAS MY FAVORITE CHANPIOM I HAD 4 GAMES WITH HER IN SEASON 2 SHE WAS VIABLE BORDERING ON OVERPOWERED AND NOW ROIT HAS REMADE HER INTO A WALKING PILE OF POOPOO AND THE NEW KARMA IS NOTHING LIKE THE OLD ONE DESPITE SHARING A NUKE, A TETHER, A SHIELD AND MANTRA WHAT THE FUUUUUCK THIS GAME IS TAKING A TURN FOR THE WORSE


^all of you guys, right now
It's embarrassing

I would never have the balls to put it as bluntly as you but I kinda feel the same way. Not saying that some complaining isn't warranted, but I didn't realize TL has so many dedicated Karma players until recently.


Ever since Karma came out the only person on TL that I ever saw advocating Karma play was Smash. And I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually happy about the re-work.


I'm hurt that I'm not included in the list with Smash - me and him had quite a long talk about Karma at a LAN last summer. I looooved Karma, she just didn't work.

She relied too much on teammates knowing what you do and trusting you in Solo Q. And in any arranged play there were just better options.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 18:03:12
March 30 2013 18:02 GMT
#667
Anybody's client crash when they search/view for another persons profile? Been going on for about 2 weeks now T_T

le loco posted.
Retvrn to Forvms
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
March 30 2013 18:04 GMT
#668
Are the GP10 quints worth it for a support page or am I better off going something like armor?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 30 2013 18:05 GMT
#669
On March 31 2013 03:04 HeroHenry wrote:
Are the GP10 quints worth it for a support page or am I better off going something like armor?

I'd say they are worth it. If you want more armor you can always go armor reds.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 30 2013 18:08 GMT
#670
On March 31 2013 02:37 gtrsrs wrote:
WOW GUYS THIS IS TERRIBLE KARMA WAS MY FAVORITE CHANPIOM I HAD 4 GAMES WITH HER IN SEASON 2 SHE WAS VIABLE BORDERING ON OVERPOWERED AND NOW ROIT HAS REMADE HER INTO A WALKING PILE OF POOPOO AND THE NEW KARMA IS NOTHING LIKE THE OLD ONE DESPITE SHARING A NUKE, A TETHER, A SHIELD AND MANTRA WHAT THE FUUUUUCK THIS GAME IS TAKING A TURN FOR THE WORSE


^all of you guys, right now
It's embarrassing


It's funny because it's true.

I did think the new tether seemed real similar to LB's skill though. Pity they took away the ally cast.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
March 30 2013 18:09 GMT
#671
@gtrsrs
Why doesn't Cris stream more? It's been so long
Moderatorgold coin
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 18:12:26
March 30 2013 18:11 GMT
#672
On March 31 2013 02:53 TheYango wrote:
In fairness, the fact that Tether is no longer ally-cast and has no pass-through effect makes it a totally different skill.

But that's not that relevant seeing as the old Tether was probably Karma's worst skill.

The only thing I'd really be bummed out about is that they turned Mantra into a skill that has to be leveled at 6/11/16 rather than rather being auto-leveled and having the other skills go to 6 ranks, like before. I don't see how the way it is now is better and it made her somewhat unique.

They toned down the "new effect" part so instead they could add numbers to it, and they can play around the numbers via level scaling, tying the effectiveness to Mantra's level rather than the mantra'd skill's level. W wouldn't heal for much if it was on ancient Karma, but now it's a one-point wonder in that respect and you level it for what it brings (root+damage) rather than what the Mantra brings you (it's more damage-mitigation than heal with such a tether skill though).
I'm not particularly a fan of the rework (Q changes primarily, making her more of a poke champ than anything sustain, bruisery and persistant she lead to before; her teamwide impact is also all contained in her E now), but I have to admit that the implementation "you want to use the Mantra for the additional effect, rather than max a skill based on which Mantra'd version is more useful" seems well done.

On March 31 2013 03:02 Chrispy wrote:
Anybody's client crash when they search/view for another persons profile? Been going on for about 2 weeks now T_T

le loco posted.

LoL Recorder was making this happen to me. Also crashed my client after every game. I don't know if it's fixed, I haven't turn it on or updated it since I closed it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 18:14:05
March 30 2013 18:11 GMT
#673
On March 31 2013 03:09 Ares[Effort] wrote:
@gtrsrs
Why doesn't Cris stream more? It's been so long

Also Phreak couldn't remember you team's new name and called you DnG on the EU LCS stream, raise some hell.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 30 2013 18:14 GMT
#674
Ahh, yeah it's probably LoLrecorder.

Also got yung Wildturtle + Xpecial on my team. TSM TSM.
Retvrn to Forvms
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
March 30 2013 18:21 GMT
#675
On March 31 2013 02:53 TheYango wrote:
The only thing I'd really be bummed out about is that they turned Mantra into a skill that has to be leveled at 6/11/16 rather than rather being auto-leveled and having the other skills go to 6 ranks, like before. I don't see how the way it is now is better and it made her somewhat unique.


Probably because Max rank for champions to hit a skill would be normally 9 instead of 11 so they wanted to make it consistent for easier balancing.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 30 2013 18:22 GMT
#676
On March 31 2013 02:43 Gahlo wrote:
Choice cuts from Reddit's week 7 trash talk thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1batee/lcs_week_7_trash_talk_thread_naeu_edition/
+ Show Spoiler +

HOTSHOT IS SO BAD THAT CLG MADE A STRATEGY THAT REVOLVES AROUND HIM DYING

PHREAK'S CHINSTRAP BENCHED BY RIOT, HAS MORE IMPACT ON S3 FINALS THAN TSM BENCHING CHAOX


+ Show Spoiler +
HOTSHOT GETTING READY TO SPAM KARTHUS' PASSIVE AGAIN.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 30 2013 18:25 GMT
#677
Cris' living situation isn't the greatest right now, and with that comes shitty Internet which means less streaming. It's one of my priorities at the moment and hopefully within the month he'll be streaming again.

I'm the meantime, maple has been streaming pretty regularly, www.twitch.tv/frommaplestreet

And yes we tweeted at phreak and I'll have a stern talk with him in LA next Tuesday >:c
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
March 30 2013 18:40 GMT
#678
On March 31 2013 02:08 wei2coolman wrote:
Hmm, the more I think about it; how much does sunfire cape in terms of helping to push? The more I watch it in pro-games, it doesn't seem like it helps all that much in splitpushing. The only time it improves splitpushing is when there's a HUGE, HUGE wave, and it makes pushing that wave like 3-4 seconds faster; but it seems pretty insignificant in smaller waves.

On other note
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/02/18/china-opens-questionably-licensed-league-of-legends-restaurant-demacia/

I'd totally go to a LoL themed cafe.

It helps quite a bit if you're a hard splitpusher with absolutely no natural waveclear
basically shen
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
March 30 2013 18:48 GMT
#679
Streaming again, gonna be for another hour and a bit.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 30 2013 18:49 GMT
#680
it should really be renamed the shenfire cape.
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