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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
March 09 2013 16:29 GMT
#1961
I've found anything past 2am EST to 10am EST is generally good on NA. Sadly, this shuts out a lot of us working professionals . However, in S2 my ranked games were something like 28-2 in that time slot due to ease of carrying + quality of teammates. (Less arguing, more cohesion, friendlier players on both teams, etc). I went something like 2-8 at the 8pm slot before I gave up that experiment.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
March 09 2013 17:09 GMT
#1962
On March 09 2013 17:49 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think diving is the single most important skill for a 5s team, it is what separates good teams from bad ones in the pro scene. Diving includes looking for dives, executing dives, preparing for them, etc.


Hate to put you on the spot but I would love to hear about what makes a good dive, what comp makes a good dive, and what comps you van dive on. I don't even play, and can't for 20 months (counting down) but would love to read it and I am sure others would about.

If you made a guide about diving I am sure many people would read it and improve from it.

I only say this because you have mentioned diving importance at least twice now. Write a thread on it man, I would read the shit out of a bly "How to Scuba like a baws" learning thread.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
March 09 2013 17:12 GMT
#1963
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/19yq3k/wanting_to_build_an_lol_team_salary_house/

looks legit Oo
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 09 2013 17:27 GMT
#1964
On March 10 2013 02:12 kongoline wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/19yq3k/wanting_to_build_an_lol_team_salary_house/

looks legit Oo

Not sure if reddit is the best place to ask for advice, but clearly got advertisement for doing so.
liftlift > tsm
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
March 09 2013 17:37 GMT
#1965
He also got the attention of Hexo whose team still doesnt have a sponsor and could really benefit from something like this, if picking up an already established team is something he would consider.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
March 09 2013 18:16 GMT
#1966
On March 10 2013 02:09 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 17:49 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think diving is the single most important skill for a 5s team, it is what separates good teams from bad ones in the pro scene. Diving includes looking for dives, executing dives, preparing for them, etc.


Hate to put you on the spot but I would love to hear about what makes a good dive, what comp makes a good dive, and what comps you van dive on. I don't even play, and can't for 20 months (counting down) but would love to read it and I am sure others would about.

If you made a guide about diving I am sure many people would read it and improve from it.

I only say this because you have mentioned diving importance at least twice now. Write a thread on it man, I would read the shit out of a bly "How to Scuba like a baws" learning thread.


To be honest, it's not very theoretical at all. You just have to know who's going to be able to take how many turret hits people can take and not make stupid mistakes. It's something you learn by doing much moreso than by theory imo.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
March 09 2013 18:24 GMT
#1967
Alright so I am sold on Gangplank being a very strong top laner again in s3.

I have been starting mp5 thingy, ward, 1 mana potion and 4 health potions. This lets me sit back and farm with Q while being safe early. I grab philo stone on my first back as GP needs early mp5 and he works really well with shurelias and he is a very safe laner so i do not mind getting gp5 on him.

I max W in most lanes, it is extremely mana efficient and a TON of health. Usually Q next for a stronger nuke. Against weaker laners Q max may be best but I really prefer W>Q>E.

Even going gp5 he supports ganks like a beast, he is Gangplank. Auto Q auto is 21% slow on top of whatever CC your jungler has and when you hit 6 you have a very powerful long range slow.

My build tends to evolve like this:

Philo-> Avarice, boots sometimes boots 2 next, Warmogs, Shurelias, Shiv (good for poking with his Q and for AoE farm)

I find these 3 items to be his "core" as you will. After this everything is situational. I have gone IBG, Triforce, Frozen Heart, Randuins ETC. Resists and CDR are his best stats after his core. E up time, W downtime and spam that Q.

Also posting in the Gangplank thread just wanted to get some attention since he hasnt been looked at in forever! He is still a beast!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 09 2013 18:30 GMT
#1968
Gangplank is so..... iffy....
He use to be so awesome (before huge ass nerfs)
But all he's good for is being an annoyance, he doesn't really do all that much damage, and his ability to contribute in teamfight just seems to be an aoe slow, with single target slow. If that's the case, there are just champs who can pretty much do the same thing in teamfights (albeit not with global ulti), and do more damage. Not that I'm saying he's not viable, but there are just better picks at higher level of play.
liftlift > tsm
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
March 09 2013 18:42 GMT
#1969
How does he not do all that much damage exactly? All you did was state something...

Q: 120+100% AD 3 second cooldown at max CDR that can crit and applies his passive slow and damage...

W: 360 Health heal that doubles as QSS... on an 11 second cooldown with 40% cdr

E: Passive of 16 dmg and 7% MS, active of 40dmg and 20% ms... half of which is given to your team

R: Huge AoE slow of doom.

His damage is high enough and he doesn't die. His 7 second steroid has only 5 seconds of downtime and is fairly significant for a teamwide buff.

Combined with the current popular junglers like J4 and Vi they wreck face when diving together.

Not to mention he also plays well in a low economy setting. I think he would do well at a high level.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 18:44:03
March 09 2013 18:42 GMT
#1970
i am so sick of lux mid every game

On March 10 2013 02:12 kongoline wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/19yq3k/wanting_to_build_an_lol_team_salary_house/

looks legit Oo

there was an article about this guy being a scumbag in espn the magazine. like how he would verbally abuse the women's soccer teams he owned and stuff. it was pretty bad.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 09 2013 19:04 GMT
#1971
On March 10 2013 03:42 kainzero wrote:
i am so sick of lux mid every game

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 02:12 kongoline wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/19yq3k/wanting_to_build_an_lol_team_salary_house/

looks legit Oo

there was an article about this guy being a scumbag in espn the magazine. like how he would verbally abuse the women's soccer teams he owned and stuff. it was pretty bad.

Verbally abusing women looks to me like he would fit in perfectly well in eSports tbh.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 19:13:04
March 09 2013 19:08 GMT
#1972
On March 10 2013 03:42 kainzero wrote:
i am so sick of lux mid every game

i dont blame them shes fun to play (personally i love her positive quotes/voice cover), even before she became fotm when she was considered weak/bad alot people played her, also dat laugh <3
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 09 2013 19:10 GMT
#1973
On March 10 2013 03:42 Bladeorade wrote:
How does he not do all that much damage exactly? All you did was state something...

Q: 120+100% AD 3 second cooldown at max CDR that can crit and applies his passive slow and damage...

W: 360 Health heal that doubles as QSS... on an 11 second cooldown with 40% cdr

E: Passive of 16 dmg and 7% MS, active of 40dmg and 20% ms... half of which is given to your team

R: Huge AoE slow of doom.

His damage is high enough and he doesn't die. His 7 second steroid has only 5 seconds of downtime and is fairly significant for a teamwide buff.

Combined with the current popular junglers like J4 and Vi they wreck face when diving together.

Not to mention he also plays well in a low economy setting. I think he would do well at a high level.

Because you can't build damage on him because then he dies instantly and his AD kit is super weak in comparison to actual AD scaling champions or ranged carries if you plan on spamming Q(which costs a billion mana making harrassing with it very tough). This means you need to build tanky on him and then he has no CC and no gapcloser and a weak aura and just overall doesn't do much. He also loses like every 1v1 commitment in the toplane and doesn't have the mana to exchange harrass so you need to play very passively, perhaps maxing W though it still might not be enough and you will lose to any 1v1 commitment(which they will do after you use W to heal).

I don't really get how you can say his Q is somehow a lot of damage. Just compare it to like, Pantheon spear and be amazed. That skill even has a lower cooldown and mana cost.

His ult is basically a global MF E. The aura's basically the main point of picking him I guess, but Taric has a far better aura, has AoE minus armor, and also has far stronger laning while dealing more damage.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 19:14:45
March 09 2013 19:13 GMT
#1974
On March 10 2013 04:08 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 03:42 kainzero wrote:
i am so sick of lux mid every game

i dont blame them shes fun to play (personally i love her quotes/voice cover), even before she became fotm she was considered weak/bad alot people played her, also dat laugh <3

I don't think she was ever considered "weak", but the fact she is a skillshot based champ made it so her skill cap was high enough she didn't reach mass popularity. But now the general LoL community is aware of how silly her ult is once you get it down to its 24 CD where you can just insta-clear waves and throw out your ult with reckless abandon.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 19:17:42
March 09 2013 19:17 GMT
#1975
I remember when the only person who would play King Lux consistently was Chu8, now like every pub its fp or second pick lux . Problem is it's not really worth a ban- just really obnoxious.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 09 2013 19:28 GMT
#1976
On March 10 2013 04:17 RuskiPanda wrote:
I remember when the only person who would play King Lux consistently was Chu8, now like every pub its fp or second pick lux . Problem is it's not really worth a ban- just really obnoxious.


i would argue she is worth a ban we just dont have enough bans...already have to ban like jarvan/singed/elise/xin/etc every game
I come in for the scraps
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 09 2013 19:36 GMT
#1977
IMO Lux is Riot's one of the best designed champions (kudos to shurelia), who had enduring popularity despite being low-mid tier in power for a very long period of time.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
March 09 2013 19:46 GMT
#1978
Theres no reason lux ult has such low cd put the cd higher and she is fine
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 09 2013 19:49 GMT
#1979
On March 10 2013 01:26 Ketara wrote:
A while back somebody in a GD thread said if you only play weekday mornings you will have in general much better experiences.

I was a little skeptical, but then I tried it for a few weeks, and I have to say it's totally true.

The number of assholes you play with on like a Wednesday morning compared to a Friday night or a Saturday morning is just night and day.

Got mocked when I mentioned that I avoided playing past 5-6 PM since I'm unemployed because there's way more rage and especially childish behaviour at those times, same with not playing ranked at all from Friday evening to Sunday.
I still have much better experience (and results) with only playing ranked earlier. People tend to be either stacks, trolls or plain drunk dudes past 4-5 AM though.

On March 10 2013 04:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 04:17 RuskiPanda wrote:
I remember when the only person who would play King Lux consistently was Chu8, now like every pub its fp or second pick lux . Problem is it's not really worth a ban- just really obnoxious.


i would argue she is worth a ban we just dont have enough bans...already have to ban like jarvan/singed/elise/xin/etc every game

Be lower, don't have to bother with Elise or Singed (well they still pick Elise but they don't seem to understand her well so they let get to 6 unhindered then free farm as Jax, so... ).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 20:01:13
March 09 2013 19:58 GMT
#1980
On March 10 2013 04:36 Sufficiency wrote:
IMO Lux is Riot's one of the best designed champions (kudos to shurelia), who had enduring popularity despite being low-mid tier in power for a very long period of time.

I would say she's been strong for a while though, it's mostly about perception. Her last set of buffs was back in July (Increased base mana regen, lower mana cost on light binding and ult). And unlike some champs, the Season 3 changes weren't the reason she got stronger (not having to start boots helped her laning for sure, but it didn't have a huge impact on her damage or anything). You could have gotten the same absurd 24 CD long range wave clear nuke in Season 2 that makes her a pain to deal with now. I would say she was low-mid tier in popularity, but not power (in the last 8 months anyway)
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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