EPT[Patch 3.03: Quinn] General Discussion - Page 51
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Argoth.
Germany1961 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On March 05 2013 16:31 onlywonderboy wrote: Actual change to BotRK on the live client. +650 Gold 25 AD instead of 30 60 bonus damage against minions instead of 90. Edit: Also they said the heal on the nuke is going to be based on damage post mitigation instead of pre-mitigation. Not sure the effect this will have. At first glance it doesn't seem too bad, but inb4 someone corrects me and explains with math how it's actually trash now lol. Wait the heal was actually pre mitigation? | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On March 05 2013 18:09 Sufficiency wrote: God please. Can we get a Tristana nerf? that's new | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
She is like a super-buffed Caitlyn in late game now. Shoots further, shoots faster and jumps farther. Just position yourself in the back of the fight and mow everything down. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On March 05 2013 19:10 BlueSpace wrote: She is like a super-buffed Caitlyn in late game now. Shoots further, shoots faster and jumps farther. Just position yourself in the back of the fight and mow everything down. well yeah. that's always been her thing even though that buff and botrk helps a lot lol. i just mean she's been under the radar for one hell of a long time now | ||
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Wrag
France124 Posts
On March 05 2013 19:10 BlueSpace wrote: She is like a super-buffed Caitlyn in late game now. Shoots further, shoots faster and jumps farther. Just position yourself in the back of the fight and mow everything down. That's not new. She might be hitting that spot a bit sooner now, but trist has allways been a lategame hypercarry. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On March 05 2013 19:14 wussleeQ wrote: well yeah. that's always been her thing even though that buff and botrk helps a lot lol. i just mean she's been under the radar for one hell of a long time now She also just received a ~20% attack speed buff at level 18 in the last patch | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 05 2013 19:10 BlueSpace wrote: She is like a super-buffed Caitlyn in late game now. Shoots further, shoots faster and jumps farther. Just position yourself in the back of the fight and mow everything down. Caitlyn's E does not reset on kills. | ||
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komokun
France343 Posts
speaking of new, did they change Tristana jump ? I feel like it's much closer to Ez arcane shift when I used to get grabbed//flinged/bumped into a stun mid-air before. I even jumped out of taric stun despite a 3 hour reaction time, looks opeh to me. Maybe I just sucked before. | ||
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komokun
France343 Posts
On March 05 2013 15:03 thenexusp wrote: Although, it's kind of funny how they make sure to keep hecarim the same through s3 item patches but then not buff rammus and galio too (since resistances are more expensive, their passives become weaker) you're comparing Hecarim's base stats with galio/rammus passive throughout the length of the game | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On March 05 2013 19:47 komokun wrote: speaking of new, did they change Tristana jump ? I feel like it's much closer to Ez arcane shift when I used to get grabbed//flinged/bumped into a stun mid-air before. I even jumped out of taric stun despite a 3 hour reaction time, looks opeh to me. Maybe I just sucked before. It feels the same to me. Ex: If you're playing thresh, a smart use of your E can still keep her from jumping away or landing on your carry without much difficulty. I'm pretty sure taric's stun didn't interfere with trist's jump, before or after her buffs, so long as you took off before it hit. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Crack, The Whip Master Crack's mastery of the whip quickly became world renowned across Runeterra. Despite this, he seemingly appeared in Demacia out of thin air. He is a very handsome and vastly intelligent man with witty comebacks or jokes to lighten the mood. Many believe his jovial and joking manner is how he deals with the tragedies he has incurred. Crack's past is known by very few, and much of that is rumors. His childhood is the only part of Crack's history that can be agreed upon and confirmed. Crack's childhood was characterized by a few things: his affinity for the whip, and the bond he shared with his father. Having never known his mother, Crack became very close with his Father. Many say they were inseparable and that they weren't merely son and father, but best friends. They owned and operated an exotic animal zoo in a rural village under Noxus control. The zoo was Crack and his father's life. Crack learned the mastery of the whip from his father and at a young age proved to be a prodigy. Unfortunately, when the League of Legends started, Crack and his father were hit hard. The League of Legends provided endless entertainment that the people loved. Crack and his father fell on hard times and were forced to sell many of their animals to survive. One night after coming back from the sale of their favorite yeti, some Noxian patrol men stopped them and tried to force a bribe from them. Acting rashly, Crack attacked and disabled them with his Whip. After running back home, Crack and his father got into a fight regarding the incident. Crack was upset his Father didn't stand up for himself while Crack's father knew Crack's actions would have dire circumstances. Crack stormed out of the house and slept in the zoo that night. When he awoke in the morning he found his father brutally murdered by Noxian forces. Crack vanished that same day. No one truly knows if Crack is in the League to destroy Noxus forces any chance he gets, if he wants to the League from within in revenge for his zoo, or both. People only know he was not seen until 15 years later when he showed up in Demacian high court unannounced. Using his sharp tongue and wit, he provoked Garen and Prince Jarvan IV to attack him where he immediately temporarily paralyzed them with two quick shots of his whip. Crack stepped over them, sat down, kicked up his feet and told King Jarvan III, "They'll be fine. So what sorta benefits we talkin' 'bout as a Champion of Demacia?" Time to open up a can of whip ass. - Crack Passive: Cat o' Ninetails - Crack attached magically-envenomed glass shards to the end of his whip, dealing extra magic damage with his Auto Attacks. Using an ability adds a stack. Crack can obtain up to a maximum of 6 stacks. Stacks are reset to 0 after an auto attack, or if enough time has elapsed. It does Level * Stacks + %AP magic damage. The stacks only last a certain amount of time so that it rewards players who can combo. This ability means that every autoattack deals some additional magic damage over time, scaling with level and ability power. Early game, this adds to his harass potential and assists with last hitting. The stacking buff allows strategic play and micro, allowing you to "charge up" what ends up being some very decent burst for a passive. Using the passive to its maximum is crucial to high-level play for this champ, as his kit is low on the damage side but high on the CC side. Q: Lightning Strike - Crack lashes his whip, dealing damage to all units in a line. Units at the whip's tip (a small aoe at the max range of the ability) take double damage. This is a normal wave-clearing, damage dealing ability that all AP casters need with a neat caveat. Rewarding positioning play by the player, or punishing it by opponents, people at the very tip of the hitbox take significantly increased damage. W: Whiplash - Crack swings his whip in a circle, dealing damage and knocking back enemies. This is one of the abilities that gives Crack his "assassin-counter" status. If a Khaz or Zed jumps on you, you knock them back and gain some breathing room. Additionally, this could be used creatively in teamfights to interfere with the other team's positioning, knock someone into a turret, etc etc. Probably 1/2 or less of a Janna ult radius. I have also toyed with the idea of it stopping some dashes such as Vi Q, Xin dash, Akali and Diana R, etc. This would reward really good players to parry dashes with quick reflexes. E: Tamer - He lashes out his whip in an area with an AOE that compels all allied minions in the AOE to all target the same enemy champion that is closest to you. If no champions are around, they target the enemy minion closest to you. Does not work on neutral minions. This goes with his whole whip theme and it is a fairly cool/new mechanic. This could make some weird Promote based strategies. Use promote, now you can push with a band of personal guard of super minions. Also means he is better against gap closers. R: Flay - Crack gains 3 charges of Flay (similar to how Ahri's ult works). Crack lashes his whip out in a line, dealing damage in a line and rooting the target at the end of the whip. Targets at the end of the whip are rooted for 1 second and take additional damage. Each additional flay roots and damages for 50% less. However, you may decide to use this on the same target 3 times for a decent root-lock, use it on 3 different people to help peel, etc. Additionally, because it has charges and does line-aoe damage, a pro could use it to great effect by stutter-stepping to line up his opponents. R, move, R, move, R, all while assessing where the greatest effect will be. This also adds stacks to his passive, for excellent damage synergy for burst. I think a great combo would be flash W (to push them back into max range of R/Q) R E R R Q AA would be a full 6 stacks of Cat 'o Nine and maximizing damage. Skin ideas: Circus Animal Trainer, Pootie Tang (this one would be AWESOME. Look it up if you don't know it. It's my second favorite movie of all time ). Taunt: Time to open up a can of whip ass!; Yo momma so fat she uses cool whip as her coffee creamer!; Are you faster than the speed of sound? 'Cause my whip is.; Jokes: You're not lookin' too good... I'll whip you into shape.; What do old turtles call young turtles?... WHIPper snappers!; Also, not sure if I mentioned but all of his abilities do magic damage and have AP ratios. Again, I would really appreciate your criticism and ideas. This includes any skin ideas, jokes, taunts, lore or ability changes, name changes to abilities. Anything. | ||
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komokun
France343 Posts
Shortcake baker skin please. His E-Tamer is interesting but feels really hard to balance. Also it's counter intuitive to have a spell way stronger at the early stages of the game than later on. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 05 2013 20:07 KissBlade wrote: I honestly didn't see what the issue with old BoTRK was before it got changed to what it is now. Seems to me Riot could hotfix it by just reverting the damn thing. Honestly the old BotRK clearly had it's niche use and you actually saw it in play with creative uses (heartbeat comes to mind along with the fact that it's also quite popular on ADcasters in Asia). Now it's a no brainer "pub" buy item to make hypercarries better when they're already the current hype of the season for adc's. It was too niche though and mostly outclassed by Bloodthirster, it being the only aspd lifesteal item is in my opinion good so that that option is available. Looking back, I think that it's funny that Starks was never built when in my opinion it currently would be broken even if it had no ally-affecting aura at all. | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
She always had that. The problem is the damage that comes out of her late game now due to the attack speed buff. She was probably a bit underplayed anyways and the buff pushed her over the edge. For me it's all about the range and the continuous barrage from the back line. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On March 05 2013 20:18 komokun wrote: Oo Shortcake baker skin please. His E-Tamer is interesting but feels really hard to balance. Also it's counter intuitive to have a spell way stronger at the early stages of the game than later on. Maybe for every rank of E you "tame" more minions. One minion per rank. Or the AOE could get larger with each rank. This seems like it would make more sense. And am I missing a reference or do you literally mean a baker of shortcakes? Because I have no idea how that would fit in with the whip haha. | ||
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