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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
March 05 2013 04:14 GMT
#961
LoL website is down too.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 05 2013 04:15 GMT
#962
Forums down as well it seems.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
March 05 2013 04:16 GMT
#963
On March 05 2013 13:11 GettingIt wrote:
Hey is it just me or is anyone else having trouble logging on?


same here. I can't log in.

Their forums are also down. Nice job riot
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 04:27:48
March 05 2013 04:26 GMT
#964
On March 05 2013 13:09 Craton wrote:
I would say their balance approach is systematically flawed in so many areas that it's the culmination of all of them resulting in all the issues.

They need to spend a lot more time balancing things pre-release and on the PBE and be a lot more willing to significantly delay releasing champions after they've been revealed on PBE. Right now once something reaches PBE it's going to enter the game with no more than a few number tweaks, even when kits are broken by design. If they were to put something on PBE, take it out and totally rework spells (champions) and combinations / actives (items), the game would be better for it by several magnitudes.

This would also greatly reduce the need for kneejerk patching that they're prone to do.


I can't wait for Pete the Prisonmaster. QWE = Light Binding, Rune Prison, Event Horizon, R is Varus's Chains.

Edit...
I feel like a writeup on the Riot champ suggestions might be in store..
Freeeeeeedom
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 05 2013 04:40 GMT
#965
I just hope that the item is still worth buying. I like the role it serves against high health stacking teams. The old one was okay but not having AS on it made it a questionable buy on ADCs (or at least this new version is better). I don't mind them being reactionary with the nerf, regardless of whether or not it was "OP" it's clear it was too good of an item where almost everyone could rush it and be successful. Even if the counter is to build armor the idea of everyone having a no brainer first buy item seems kind of silly.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
March 05 2013 04:43 GMT
#966
Seems like it still could be a good buy on Shaco
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13408 Posts
March 05 2013 04:48 GMT
#967
I got placed bronze 1 today after finishing my ranked placement for the first time ever.

I am now 4-1 since placement and 9-6 overall with my last 8 ranked games being 6-2.

IS THIS NORMAL? people tell me its full of trolls, but the few angry players I have had were silvers. Who later calmed down once we won a team fight.

I had a Jayce yell at me in chat for 3 minutes straight to stop feeding. 30 minute game and I spent 40 seconds dead as AP yi when the Vi, who also yelled at me for "lololol bronze? NO I'm going to be jungle" decided to die 3 times to bot tower dives where she failed her ganks
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 05 2013 04:50 GMT
#968
On March 05 2013 13:48 ZeromuS wrote:
I got placed bronze 1 today after finishing my ranked placement for the first time ever.

I am now 4-1 since placement and 9-6 overall with my last 8 ranked games being 6-2.

IS THIS NORMAL? people tell me its full of trolls, but the few angry players I have had were silvers. Who later calmed down once we won a team fight.

I had a Jayce yell at me in chat for 3 minutes straight to stop feeding. 30 minute game and I spent 40 seconds dead as AP yi when the Vi, who also yelled at me for "lololol bronze? NO I'm going to be jungle" decided to die 3 times to bot tower dives where she failed her ganks

mute and shikyo.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 05 2013 04:52 GMT
#969
On March 05 2013 13:50 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 13:48 ZeromuS wrote:
I got placed bronze 1 today after finishing my ranked placement for the first time ever.

I am now 4-1 since placement and 9-6 overall with my last 8 ranked games being 6-2.

IS THIS NORMAL? people tell me its full of trolls, but the few angry players I have had were silvers. Who later calmed down once we won a team fight.

I had a Jayce yell at me in chat for 3 minutes straight to stop feeding. 30 minute game and I spent 40 seconds dead as AP yi when the Vi, who also yelled at me for "lololol bronze? NO I'm going to be jungle" decided to die 3 times to bot tower dives where she failed her ganks

mute and shikyo.


Mute Shikyo too.
Hey! How you doin'?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
March 05 2013 04:52 GMT
#970
On March 05 2013 13:50 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 13:48 ZeromuS wrote:
I got placed bronze 1 today after finishing my ranked placement for the first time ever.

I am now 4-1 since placement and 9-6 overall with my last 8 ranked games being 6-2.

IS THIS NORMAL? people tell me its full of trolls, but the few angry players I have had were silvers. Who later calmed down once we won a team fight.

I had a Jayce yell at me in chat for 3 minutes straight to stop feeding. 30 minute game and I spent 40 seconds dead as AP yi when the Vi, who also yelled at me for "lololol bronze? NO I'm going to be jungle" decided to die 3 times to bot tower dives where she failed her ganks

mute and shikyo.

Don't forget Vaporize.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13408 Posts
March 05 2013 04:53 GMT
#971
On March 05 2013 13:50 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 13:48 ZeromuS wrote:
I got placed bronze 1 today after finishing my ranked placement for the first time ever.

I am now 4-1 since placement and 9-6 overall with my last 8 ranked games being 6-2.

IS THIS NORMAL? people tell me its full of trolls, but the few angry players I have had were silvers. Who later calmed down once we won a team fight.

I had a Jayce yell at me in chat for 3 minutes straight to stop feeding. 30 minute game and I spent 40 seconds dead as AP yi when the Vi, who also yelled at me for "lololol bronze? NO I'm going to be jungle" decided to die 3 times to bot tower dives where she failed her ganks

mute and shikyo.


Yeah thats right there is a Shikyo thread. I forgot haha. Oh well I dont care, we won, I carried the team with some 20 assists and kills interspersed amongst the rest. ELO hell doesnt exist I am sure of this.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
March 05 2013 04:56 GMT
#972
On March 05 2013 13:53 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 13:50 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 05 2013 13:48 ZeromuS wrote:
I got placed bronze 1 today after finishing my ranked placement for the first time ever.

I am now 4-1 since placement and 9-6 overall with my last 8 ranked games being 6-2.

IS THIS NORMAL? people tell me its full of trolls, but the few angry players I have had were silvers. Who later calmed down once we won a team fight.

I had a Jayce yell at me in chat for 3 minutes straight to stop feeding. 30 minute game and I spent 40 seconds dead as AP yi when the Vi, who also yelled at me for "lololol bronze? NO I'm going to be jungle" decided to die 3 times to bot tower dives where she failed her ganks

mute and shikyo.


Yeah thats right there is a Shikyo thread. I forgot haha. Oh well I dont care, we won, I carried the team with some 20 assists and kills interspersed amongst the rest. ELO hell doesnt exist I am sure of this.



Just you wait till you get your first losing streak and you'll understand.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
March 05 2013 04:57 GMT
#973
wellp good time for LoL to go out... tomb raider just came out! weeee ^_^
BW -> League -> CSGO
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
March 05 2013 04:59 GMT
#974
On March 05 2013 13:13 Sermokala wrote:
I would credit part of riots success is in the incredible amount of "new" content they can make by simply shuffling numbers around on champs with you ending up with completely different experiences then before.

Riot doesn't hotfix just anything. they left black cleavers alone for a long long time and have bearly reacted to the giant belt meta. I don't understand what the complaint is with a company reacting to imbalances that it sees. Sure its cool to see the community figure stuff on their own but its going to take months for simple things to get worked out and its just better if they let the community develop new things instead of hashing out unfun old things.


Have to make ends meet you know.
FADC
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 05 2013 05:10 GMT
#975
On March 05 2013 13:56 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 13:53 ZeromuS wrote:
On March 05 2013 13:50 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 05 2013 13:48 ZeromuS wrote:
I got placed bronze 1 today after finishing my ranked placement for the first time ever.

I am now 4-1 since placement and 9-6 overall with my last 8 ranked games being 6-2.

IS THIS NORMAL? people tell me its full of trolls, but the few angry players I have had were silvers. Who later calmed down once we won a team fight.

I had a Jayce yell at me in chat for 3 minutes straight to stop feeding. 30 minute game and I spent 40 seconds dead as AP yi when the Vi, who also yelled at me for "lololol bronze? NO I'm going to be jungle" decided to die 3 times to bot tower dives where she failed her ganks

mute and shikyo.


Yeah thats right there is a Shikyo thread. I forgot haha. Oh well I dont care, we won, I carried the team with some 20 assists and kills interspersed amongst the rest. ELO hell doesnt exist I am sure of this.



Just you wait till you get your first losing streak and you'll understand.


Go 7-1 in ranked to 96 LP, then proceed to tank the next 6+ games to 0.

Losing and winning are very self-reinforcing due to a combination of matchmaking and psychology.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13408 Posts
March 05 2013 05:13 GMT
#976
On March 05 2013 14:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 13:56 GettingIt wrote:
On March 05 2013 13:53 ZeromuS wrote:
On March 05 2013 13:50 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 05 2013 13:48 ZeromuS wrote:
I got placed bronze 1 today after finishing my ranked placement for the first time ever.

I am now 4-1 since placement and 9-6 overall with my last 8 ranked games being 6-2.

IS THIS NORMAL? people tell me its full of trolls, but the few angry players I have had were silvers. Who later calmed down once we won a team fight.

I had a Jayce yell at me in chat for 3 minutes straight to stop feeding. 30 minute game and I spent 40 seconds dead as AP yi when the Vi, who also yelled at me for "lololol bronze? NO I'm going to be jungle" decided to die 3 times to bot tower dives where she failed her ganks

mute and shikyo.


Yeah thats right there is a Shikyo thread. I forgot haha. Oh well I dont care, we won, I carried the team with some 20 assists and kills interspersed amongst the rest. ELO hell doesnt exist I am sure of this.



Just you wait till you get your first losing streak and you'll understand.


Go 7-1 in ranked to 96 LP, then proceed to tank the next 6+ games to 0.

Losing and winning are very self-reinforcing due to a combination of matchmaking and psychology.


Oh I am sure I will understand but I think I will get out of bronze before my first major lose streak. I play often with silver friends in normals and dont get completely bombasted and most of my normals are with silvers so this means my mmr must be slowly putting me there right? I hope O.O
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
March 05 2013 05:17 GMT
#977
Normal and Ranked use different ratings.
twitch.tv/cratonz
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
March 05 2013 05:18 GMT
#978
On March 05 2013 12:40 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 12:25 UniversalSnip wrote:
finally. smash, tell your coworkers to buy a calculator. I know that's a jerkass thing to say but there's no excuse for this.

the changes are along the lines of what I expected - give the recipe zero ad, add cost. I thought they'd hit the active harder but that looks pretty satisfactory.


Its odd, because I haven't understood a large majority of Riot's balance changes dating back to the Pre-S3 (and I think a large # of this community + others who dabble in the PBE agree with me). BC, Locket, BOTRK.

Even champ remakes seemed odd, like the random Hec buff a while back, the obvious problem Eve was going to be upon rework, etc.

I dont get it.


I agree that Riot's balancing is weird, but the hecarim buff wasn't random - it was compensating for losing 25 bonus MS from boots and thus lower AD because of his passive.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 05 2013 05:34 GMT
#979
On March 05 2013 14:18 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 12:40 cLutZ wrote:
On March 05 2013 12:25 UniversalSnip wrote:
finally. smash, tell your coworkers to buy a calculator. I know that's a jerkass thing to say but there's no excuse for this.

the changes are along the lines of what I expected - give the recipe zero ad, add cost. I thought they'd hit the active harder but that looks pretty satisfactory.


Its odd, because I haven't understood a large majority of Riot's balance changes dating back to the Pre-S3 (and I think a large # of this community + others who dabble in the PBE agree with me). BC, Locket, BOTRK.

Even champ remakes seemed odd, like the random Hec buff a while back, the obvious problem Eve was going to be upon rework, etc.

I dont get it.


I agree that Riot's balancing is weird, but the hecarim buff wasn't random - it was compensating for losing 25 bonus MS from boots and thus lower AD because of his passive.


I dont recall exactly, but wasn't it a per lvl buff with them also introducing machete around that time?

Seems silly to make ANY changes to any junglers right around the time you completely revamp the entire jungle.

What also frustrates me is the disconnect between what they say and what the changes they make actually accomplish. I.E. the recent Nunu nerfs were to "make him less passive", so sure they nerf bloodboil (justified), but don't make changes elsewhere in the kit to let him be more active like making his passive like nocturnes (charges up over time, but sped up by autoattacks) or just outright giving him an snowball buff.
Freeeeeeedom
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
March 05 2013 05:34 GMT
#980
Or making Q do something.
twitch.tv/cratonz
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