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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 10:07:43
March 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#81
Hmm don't know about the Vi and Xin nerfs, I feel like they are still super strong. Probably going to max W second on Vi now and the Xin nerf will be noticable but at least they didn't nerf the % portion on his ult.

lots of things to test now. Gonna start playing Trist and Vayne again.
On March 01 2013 19:02 Mogwai wrote:
fadsklfjklsadjfkldsajfkasdf, I swear to god I dunked Quinn in lane in every game I played except for the only 2 games they could use for the spotlight. I'm still pissed off that the only 2 videos that showed me doing anything but dying didn't even have the SmashGizmo tag on (Vi Spotlight, PPD PPP Jarman) .


it's fine bro, you redeemed yourself with some "sick" Xin plays on the patch notes video
btw, are you allowed to write a little blog about how it is working @Riot? I'd be really interested in that lol
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 01 2013 10:06 GMT
#82
On March 01 2013 19:02 Mogwai wrote:
fadsklfjklsadjfkldsajfkasdf, I swear to god I dunked Quinn in lane in every game I played except for the only 2 games they could use for the spotlight. I'm still pissed off that the only 2 videos that showed me doing anything but dying didn't even have the SmashGizmo tag on (Vi Spotlight, PPD PPP Jarman) .

Can you say which ADs have good and which bad matchups vs Quinn?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 01 2013 10:08 GMT
#83
On March 01 2013 19:02 Mogwai wrote:
fadsklfjklsadjfkldsajfkasdf, I swear to god I dunked Quinn in lane in every game I played except for the only 2 games they could use for the spotlight. I'm still pissed off that the only 2 videos that showed me doing anything but dying didn't even have the SmashGizmo tag on (Vi Spotlight, PPD PPP Jarman) .


Sooooo... basically what you're saying is your co-workers think you're bad...?

XD
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 10:30:22
March 01 2013 10:12 GMT
#84
These changes make Bilgewater Cutlass a better early pickup for champions who want to utilize its UNIQUE Active.

I have trouble with that one. Doesn't it make Cutlass much, much worse in general, but a bit less for whoever values the active? ôo

And the client juste crashed on me. Bleh, those troubles aren't set yet it seems.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 01 2013 10:13 GMT
#85
On March 01 2013 19:12 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
These changes make Bilgewater Cutlass a better early pickup for champions who want to utilize its UNIQUE Active.

I have trouble with that one. Doesn't it make Cutlass much, much worse in general, but a bit less for whoever values the active? ôo


Well, aside from champs that wanted the active who really got it anyway?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 01 2013 10:15 GMT
#86
On March 01 2013 19:06 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 19:02 Mogwai wrote:
fadsklfjklsadjfkldsajfkasdf, I swear to god I dunked Quinn in lane in every game I played except for the only 2 games they could use for the spotlight. I'm still pissed off that the only 2 videos that showed me doing anything but dying didn't even have the SmashGizmo tag on (Vi Spotlight, PPD PPP Jarman) .

Can you say which ADs have good and which bad matchups vs Quinn?

Consensus seems to be that Cait, Ez and Graves destroy her (again, I swear I dunk on that champ all day as Ez, but they happened to pick the 2 games I got camped into oblivion), and that she's good vs. Sivir, Vayne, Trist and Kog. Tbh though, I think she's generally pretty weak in lane and needs to shine midgame to succeed because her lategame is kinda weird at 525 range. Not gonna front, I'm not a big fan of the character, but eh, I'm not a ranged carry guy anyway, so what do I know.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 01 2013 10:16 GMT
#87
On March 01 2013 19:08 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 19:02 Mogwai wrote:
fadsklfjklsadjfkldsajfkasdf, I swear to god I dunked Quinn in lane in every game I played except for the only 2 games they could use for the spotlight. I'm still pissed off that the only 2 videos that showed me doing anything but dying didn't even have the SmashGizmo tag on (Vi Spotlight, PPD PPP Jarman) .


Sooooo... basically what you're saying is your co-workers think you're bad...?

XD

My coworkers have an accurate assessment of my abilities at the game, but people who see me in games on the Riot channel probably think I suck major ass and that makes me sad.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 01 2013 10:21 GMT
#88
Might be just be being way too excited about the buffs, but after playing a bot game with trist to warm up, it feels like the AS buff makes trist way smoother than I expected by lvl 4-6 already wow. So happy I didn't refund firefighter Trist ^^^^
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 01 2013 10:23 GMT
#89
On March 01 2013 19:16 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 19:08 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 01 2013 19:02 Mogwai wrote:
fadsklfjklsadjfkldsajfkasdf, I swear to god I dunked Quinn in lane in every game I played except for the only 2 games they could use for the spotlight. I'm still pissed off that the only 2 videos that showed me doing anything but dying didn't even have the SmashGizmo tag on (Vi Spotlight, PPD PPP Jarman) .


Sooooo... basically what you're saying is your co-workers think you're bad...?

XD

My coworkers have an accurate assessment of my abilities at the game, but people who see me in games on the Riot channel probably think I suck major ass and that makes me sad.

How many coworkers would you say are better than you?
liftlift > tsm
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 10:26:33
March 01 2013 10:24 GMT
#90
I just noticed that the new botrk is a really good item for jungle Vi. You can just max w over e and it becomes awesome. As Vi you're guaranteed to get on top of your target, so you will always be able to use the active without having to worry about getting kited. The lifesteal is nice for sustain in the jungle and mid/late game you can stay front and shred tanks which you're anyway good at because you were maxing w.

On March 01 2013 19:16 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 19:08 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 01 2013 19:02 Mogwai wrote:
fadsklfjklsadjfkldsajfkasdf, I swear to god I dunked Quinn in lane in every game I played except for the only 2 games they could use for the spotlight. I'm still pissed off that the only 2 videos that showed me doing anything but dying didn't even have the SmashGizmo tag on (Vi Spotlight, PPD PPP Jarman) .


Sooooo... basically what you're saying is your co-workers think you're bad...?

XD

My coworkers have an accurate assessment of my abilities at the game, but people who see me in games on the Riot channel probably think I suck major ass and that makes me sad.

So you're part of the team that tests "Tons of damage" at Riot?
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 01 2013 10:25 GMT
#91
On March 01 2013 19:15 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 19:06 Shikyo wrote:
On March 01 2013 19:02 Mogwai wrote:
fadsklfjklsadjfkldsajfkasdf, I swear to god I dunked Quinn in lane in every game I played except for the only 2 games they could use for the spotlight. I'm still pissed off that the only 2 videos that showed me doing anything but dying didn't even have the SmashGizmo tag on (Vi Spotlight, PPD PPP Jarman) .

Can you say which ADs have good and which bad matchups vs Quinn?

Consensus seems to be that Cait, Ez and Graves destroy her (again, I swear I dunk on that champ all day as Ez, but they happened to pick the 2 games I got camped into oblivion), and that she's good vs. Sivir, Vayne, Trist and Kog. Tbh though, I think she's generally pretty weak in lane and needs to shine midgame to succeed because her lategame is kinda weird at 525 range. Not gonna front, I'm not a big fan of the character, but eh, I'm not a ranged carry guy anyway, so what do I know.

Hmm so she can't even dominate lanes properly?

Then I really don't see much point in her, squishy melee form doesn't seem to have any use and the rest of her kit seems to have the ranged Jayce syndrome without a wonderful poke.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 01 2013 10:27 GMT
#92
I've been playing Tristana exclusively in bot and I'm almost sad to see her keep getting buffs. It's like, now everyone else is gonna love her too, we had a THING going damnit...

Hipster loler.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 01 2013 10:32 GMT
#93
90s cd on Cutlass seems a bit crazy to me.
The legend of Darien lives on
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11964 Posts
March 01 2013 10:33 GMT
#94
Maybe you could play her kind of like bruiser teemo in toplane? Her Kit does not really scream AD carry to me, i think she could work a lot better being really annoying against melee champions. Though i have to admit that i have not played her yet.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 10:50:20
March 01 2013 10:47 GMT
#95
On March 01 2013 19:02 Mogwai wrote:
fadsklfjklsadjfkldsajfkasdf, I swear to god I dunked Quinn in lane in every game I played except for the only 2 games they could use for the spotlight. I'm still pissed off that the only 2 videos that showed me doing anything but dying didn't even have the SmashGizmo tag on (Vi Spotlight, PPD PPP Jarman) .


I thought it was Riot initiation/hazing. Guess not. lol
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 11:04:08
March 01 2013 11:01 GMT
#96
I don't understand half of the changes. Why would you buff Tristanas attackspeed? She is one of the two most scary ad carries lategame and your midgame will still be really bad. If you want to buff her slightly, give her W and R an ad-scaling ratio. If you really want to make me happy, rework the jump so that it is at least faster, i so hate it to get stunned or knocked up while in air.

Taric was too strong in lane, cause he was able to all-in the opposing support/ad without getting at risk himself. Sure, his armor aura helped a lo in trading, but if you want to trade, don't pick taric? How, he is even scarier if he labds a stun, but after you 100-0 the support, 100 more damage will stick on your ad. BAM, i expect his winrate to really plummet.

Hec seems legit, now he will deal damage much sooner and snowball hard, but not be completely immovable with full items.

Am i understanding the vi changes correctly? If your Q gets interrupted, it now is up faster then before, but you lose more mana? Am i the only one that thinks that this is a buff? If you wanted to use it defensively, you will now have it sooner to get away, if you wanted to land it for a gank, you might have it back before they are able to escape.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 11:08:28
March 01 2013 11:04 GMT
#97
Eh Taric does a lot of trading.

100-0ing is relatively rare.

The mana cost buffs really help taric in lane, probably too much. I already see a Taric every single game.


By the way am I the only one who thinks that knockups are pretty stupid? It's a stronger CC than suppression yet many normal skills have knockup while only a few ults have suppression.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 11:21:23
March 01 2013 11:16 GMT
#98
On March 01 2013 19:02 Mogwai wrote:
fadsklfjklsadjfkldsajfkasdf, I swear to god I dunked Quinn in lane in every game I played except for the only 2 games they could use for the spotlight. I'm still pissed off that the only 2 videos that showed me doing anything but dying didn't even have the SmashGizmo tag on (Vi Spotlight, PPD PPP Jarman) .

It's 'k dude, we still like you. Why Warring Kingdoms Xin though? Too much pretty boy, not enough manliness!

On March 01 2013 20:01 Broetchenholer wrote:
Am i understanding the vi changes correctly? If your Q gets interrupted, it now is up faster then before, but you lose more mana? Am i the only one that thinks that this is a buff? If you wanted to use it defensively, you will now have it sooner to get away, if you wanted to land it for a gank, you might have it back before they are able to escape.

Nope, the cooldown was instantly refunded previously. I don't mind it either, if she messes up her charge timing, then you can punish her, while 3s still gives her hopes of getting away. I expect to get really frustrated if I mess up though.
(On the other hand apart from Jarvan and some dashes like Trist/Corki most dash champs can't be interrupted at all while wall-jumping away.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
March 01 2013 11:19 GMT
#99
trist every game incoming? I will be so happy when there will be a patch where only viable adcs will be those without good escape skills.
Chun-li since ST
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 01 2013 11:29 GMT
#100
Trist buff brings her up to being played as regular as ez, cait, twitch, draven, mf basicly
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