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Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 06:04:12
March 01 2013 06:03 GMT
#21
LeaverBuster has been improved to account for client-related issues


Whats this exactly?

Also, not sure about the CD changes to Hecarims W, will have to try it out and see. Still going to be #1 in my heart <3
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 01 2013 06:03 GMT
#22
While Garen nerfs might not be needed can't say I'm not going to enjoy them. One too many times I've faced a Garen that carried his team to victory lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 06:08:04
March 01 2013 06:04 GMT
#23
It kinda feels like the new BotRK is worse for ADC, and better for bruisers compared to the old one.

Then again, I have no idea how the extra 5% lifesteal compares to the old life on hit. And the active is amazing peel..
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 01 2013 06:06 GMT
#24
On March 01 2013 14:56 wussleeQ wrote:
glad i got diamond before any of these changes took place

AP trynd was free league pts basically
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 01 2013 06:07 GMT
#25
lol. guess they were frustrated with garens not dying ever
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 01 2013 06:10 GMT
#26
Ahhhhh, Garen nerfs...

Someone get me a martini.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 01 2013 06:12 GMT
#27
I'm usually pretty accepting of Riot's rational, hey it's their game, not mine, but their logic for buffing Nid's AP ratio on swipe is just silly. Why dive in when you can still chuck spears from a million miles away and still insta-gib squihies? If they wanted them to stop throwing as many spears they could have nerfed the spears instead. Also they never wanted her to be built tanky bruiser? That was her popular build for such a long time and they didn't go anything about it until now? Just seems SO weird overall.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Kontossis
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada256 Posts
March 01 2013 06:15 GMT
#28
On March 01 2013 15:04 RagequitBM wrote:
It kinda feels like the new BotRK is worse for ADC, and better for bruisers compared to the old one.

Then again, I have no idea how the extra 5% lifesteal compares to the old life on hit. And the active is amazing peel..


If you're talking about the 30% life on hit version that was changed on PBE, that one was definitely overpowered, and could be utilized by bruisers like Irelia and Jax. Even on ADCs, that version was better because the life return was unmitigated by armor. Still, this version of BotRK seems to me to be a item to replace BT.
Nom nom nom...
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 01 2013 06:18 GMT
#29
On Twitter Heatbeat and Brunch u are both expressing shock that they are buffing Trist. I guess I see where they are coming from, her late game was already scary, not it's even scarier. Interesting to note the proposed buff to Vayne's AttkSp/Lvl doesn't seem to be going through.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
JALbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States484 Posts
March 01 2013 06:18 GMT
#30
On March 01 2013 14:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Garen nerfs totally necessary, cuz he's so broken, lol, sometimes I don't understand Riot.


This is exactly what we'd hear if AP Trynd was nerfed one month ago.
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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
March 01 2013 06:29 GMT
#31
Tank nid nerfed. I rather they nerf AP nid.

So I guess Riot wants LoL to be blob vs blob. Stuff like Amumu better get whacked harder by the nerfbat in that place.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17239 Posts
March 01 2013 06:31 GMT
#32
So much power creep.
twitch.tv/cratonz
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
March 01 2013 06:41 GMT
#33
Wow that Nidalee nerf is chunky :O. Losing 10/20/30 armor and mr + mr per level just for an extra 0.2 ratio on a cougar skill.
Veni, vidi, vici!
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
March 01 2013 06:48 GMT
#34
On March 01 2013 15:06 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 14:56 wussleeQ wrote:
glad i got diamond before any of these changes took place

AP trynd was free league pts basically

hey hey jungle ap trynd is a LITTLE different at least T_T.
BW -> League -> CSGO
NapKiN16
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada95 Posts
March 01 2013 06:49 GMT
#35
Now lanewick with BOTRK + SV is even better than before, so yay for that!
ForGotteNNapKiN NapKiN[AoV]
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 01 2013 06:53 GMT
#36
Assuming Gunblade's cost didn't go down by 525g as a result of the Cutlass changes, I really call into question the sense in building Gunblade on Akali at this point. The buildup past Revolver is terrible as it stands (SEE: Zionspartan's ill-fated attempt to rush Cutlass before Revolver on Akali the other day), and the changes to Cutlass just make it even worse. If Gunblade's competition was still just WotA that'd be okay, but Spectral Wraith is so cheap and cost-efficient that any champion looking for Spell Vamp needn't look anywhere else.

Seriously, you can be halfway to Rylai's or any other big ticket AP item by the time someone else finally finishes Gunblade.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 06:58:48
March 01 2013 06:57 GMT
#37
Garen's been carrying pretty ridiculously hard in the last few games I've played against him. It was just silly that a Garen with a Warmogs and a Bruta could 1v3, then run away whenever things got difficult. Can't say I'm not glad to see him go.

I think the change on Janna will help a lot. I've had way too many awkward OOM situations with her ._.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 01 2013 07:04 GMT
#38
Garen is hella strong. He needed the nerf. I think he will still do fine.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17239 Posts
March 01 2013 07:10 GMT
#39
On March 01 2013 15:06 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 14:56 wussleeQ wrote:
glad i got diamond before any of these changes took place

AP trynd was free league pts basically

All the AP trynds on my teams missed that memo.
twitch.tv/cratonz
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 01 2013 07:10 GMT
#40
SmashGizmo has been Slain.
SmashGizmo has been Slain.
SmashGizmo has been Slain.
SmashGizmo has been Slain.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
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