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FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
March 01 2013 07:12 GMT
#41
Also despite the armour aura nerf. Everything seems to be a straight buff to my mad dog Taric playstyle. I'm really really ok with this :D
Veni, vidi, vici!
Mafab
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany458 Posts
March 01 2013 07:14 GMT
#42
I don't get why they don't just take out Tryndamere's AP ratio. I mean "look at me I have a huge sword and am a mage!"
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 01 2013 07:17 GMT
#43
how on earth is that a taric nerf? looks like a massive fucking buff.
I come in for the scraps
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 07:21:16
March 01 2013 07:19 GMT
#44
On March 01 2013 15:18 JALbert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 14:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Garen nerfs totally necessary, cuz he's so broken, lol, sometimes I don't understand Riot.


This is exactly what we'd hear if AP Trynd was nerfed one month ago.

AP trynd didn't need a nerf either. too much bitching an moaning by 1200's.

Nerfing is not an excuse for not learning to counterplay.

On March 01 2013 16:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
how on earth is that a taric nerf? looks like a massive fucking buff.

It's a massive buff if you had a shit ton of gold on Taric; and could actually afford stuff like frozen heart or other support items like locket. But more often than naught you don't have jack shit on supports in terms of items.
liftlift > tsm
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
March 01 2013 07:21 GMT
#45
Ouch Amumu nerfed again :-(
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 01 2013 07:22 GMT
#46
Lol, I just witnessed a quadruple swap on my level 18 account in draft mode.

Legitimately the awesomest thing ever.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 01 2013 07:27 GMT
#47
On March 01 2013 16:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 15:18 JALbert wrote:
On March 01 2013 14:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Garen nerfs totally necessary, cuz he's so broken, lol, sometimes I don't understand Riot.


This is exactly what we'd hear if AP Trynd was nerfed one month ago.

AP trynd didn't need a nerf either. too much bitching an moaning by 1200's.

Nerfing is not an excuse for not learning to counterplay.

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 16:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
how on earth is that a taric nerf? looks like a massive fucking buff.

It's a massive buff if you had a shit ton of gold on Taric; and could actually afford stuff like frozen heart or other support items like locket. But more often than naught you don't have jack shit on supports in terms of items.


Pros
- Gained more magic damage for his burst from passive
- gained more magic damage for his burst from shatter armor scaling component
- reduced mana costs on shatter/stun making it more spammable

Con
- lose armor on your ad carry, which isnt even a big deal since you are always on the offensive in lane.

Ok sure I can see it being a nerf to his teamfight but thats not what he needed, he needed a lane nerf.

This makes his laning even better lol, laning against MF/taric or draven/taric or anything like that is going to be even more brutal this patch.
I come in for the scraps
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 01 2013 07:28 GMT
#48
On March 01 2013 16:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 15:18 JALbert wrote:
On March 01 2013 14:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Garen nerfs totally necessary, cuz he's so broken, lol, sometimes I don't understand Riot.


This is exactly what we'd hear if AP Trynd was nerfed one month ago.

AP trynd didn't need a nerf either. too much bitching an moaning by 1200's.

Nerfing is not an excuse for not learning to counterplay.

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 16:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
how on earth is that a taric nerf? looks like a massive fucking buff.

It's a massive buff if you had a shit ton of gold on Taric; and could actually afford stuff like frozen heart or other support items like locket. But more often than naught you don't have jack shit on supports in terms of items.

I wanna try Top Taric just for the fun of it lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 01 2013 07:33 GMT
#49
On March 01 2013 16:28 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 16:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 01 2013 15:18 JALbert wrote:
On March 01 2013 14:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Garen nerfs totally necessary, cuz he's so broken, lol, sometimes I don't understand Riot.


This is exactly what we'd hear if AP Trynd was nerfed one month ago.

AP trynd didn't need a nerf either. too much bitching an moaning by 1200's.

Nerfing is not an excuse for not learning to counterplay.

On March 01 2013 16:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
how on earth is that a taric nerf? looks like a massive fucking buff.

It's a massive buff if you had a shit ton of gold on Taric; and could actually afford stuff like frozen heart or other support items like locket. But more often than naught you don't have jack shit on supports in terms of items.

I wanna try Top Taric just for the fun of it lol.

I think smash once ran top taric with full apen (due to taric's ridiculous base dmg). ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
Muramana taric, gogogogo!
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 07:37:45
March 01 2013 07:37 GMT
#50
On March 01 2013 16:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 16:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 01 2013 15:18 JALbert wrote:
On March 01 2013 14:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Garen nerfs totally necessary, cuz he's so broken, lol, sometimes I don't understand Riot.


This is exactly what we'd hear if AP Trynd was nerfed one month ago.

AP trynd didn't need a nerf either. too much bitching an moaning by 1200's.

Nerfing is not an excuse for not learning to counterplay.

On March 01 2013 16:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
how on earth is that a taric nerf? looks like a massive fucking buff.

It's a massive buff if you had a shit ton of gold on Taric; and could actually afford stuff like frozen heart or other support items like locket. But more often than naught you don't have jack shit on supports in terms of items.


Pros
- Gained more magic damage for his burst from passive
- gained more magic damage for his burst from shatter armor scaling component
- reduced mana costs on shatter/stun making it more spammable

Con
- lose armor on your ad carry, which isnt even a big deal since you are always on the offensive in lane.

Ok sure I can see it being a nerf to his teamfight but thats not what he needed, he needed a lane nerf.

This makes his laning even better lol, laning against MF/taric or draven/taric or anything like that is going to be even more brutal this patch.


It's only significant buff to his burst if he builds a lot of armor early on; and as support you really aren't going to be itemizing armor until like 20min mark. I don't think his laning is that much stronger. I think the issue Riot wanted to target was towards lategame when Taric could literally get caught, eat 5 enemy ultis; still live with 10% of his life, and bait entire enemy team into a terrible follow up engagement.
liftlift > tsm
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
March 01 2013 07:44 GMT
#51
servers not working on EU NE. FIrewall problems for everyone.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 01 2013 07:54 GMT
#52
Tristana's base aspd is 0.658...

That's a huge buff to her, really should help with her weak midgame.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
March 01 2013 07:55 GMT
#53
On March 01 2013 16:04 jaybrundage wrote:
Garen is hella strong. He needed the nerf. I think he will still do fine.


The fact that many people here didn't realize this makes me wonder just how hipster TL subforum really is.. I thought it was a well known fact that Garen was sleeper op. Guess not so sleeper o_o
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
March 01 2013 07:56 GMT
#54
On March 01 2013 16:54 Shikyo wrote:
Tristana's base aspd is 0.658...

That's a huge buff to her, really should help with her weak midgame.


This + the blade of the ruined king changes just made a fairly damn solid pick. Muwhaahaha.. shame I don't adc often.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35167 Posts
March 01 2013 08:07 GMT
#55
So, Glacial or Warden's first on Taric? XD
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 01 2013 08:08 GMT
#56
On March 01 2013 16:55 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 16:04 jaybrundage wrote:
Garen is hella strong. He needed the nerf. I think he will still do fine.


The fact that many people here didn't realize this makes me wonder just how hipster TL subforum really is.. I thought it was a well known fact that Garen was sleeper op. Guess not so sleeper o_o

He's strong. Yes, Annoying as fuck yes. Needed a nerf? no.
liftlift > tsm
Capricious_LoL
Profile Joined December 2012
United States222 Posts
March 01 2013 08:11 GMT
#57
Hec still super strong, maybe #1 solo queue jungler with nerfs to xin and vi. Going to keep riding the pony elo express.
NA LoL: Capriciøus
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
March 01 2013 08:14 GMT
#58
On March 01 2013 16:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 15:18 JALbert wrote:
On March 01 2013 14:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Garen nerfs totally necessary, cuz he's so broken, lol, sometimes I don't understand Riot.


This is exactly what we'd hear if AP Trynd was nerfed one month ago.

AP trynd didn't need a nerf either. too much bitching an moaning by 1200's.

Nerfing is not an excuse for not learning to counterplay.

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 16:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
how on earth is that a taric nerf? looks like a massive fucking buff.

It's a massive buff if you had a shit ton of gold on Taric; and could actually afford stuff like frozen heart or other support items like locket. But more often than naught you don't have jack shit on supports in terms of items.


Do you really expect teams in Soloq to be co-ordinated enough to counter an AP Tryn killing your nexus? Low elo they won't. And low elo is where most of the player base is. Not only that, he wasn't fun to play against. Most people don't care how strong he is, just the fact that he promotes such boring gameplay.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Capricious_LoL
Profile Joined December 2012
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 08:26:13
March 01 2013 08:22 GMT
#59
Garen nerfs were needed l0l, he wasn't even sleeper op by having a very high pick rate. Somehow he didn't even seem bad in teamfights despite being able to dominate lane, probably because he was tanky as fuck, tankier than many true tanks. Garen was also nigh ungankable if you stagger points in q and e.

Now, just waiting on Rumble and Singed nerfs.
NA LoL: Capriciøus
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 01 2013 08:24 GMT
#60
I feel that with the new Taric you might be able to play him as a bruiser.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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