• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:49
CEST 06:49
KST 13:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 224ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 ZOWIE DIVINA preview Server Blocker StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BW General Discussion
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7173 users

[Patch 3.03: Quinn] General Discussion - Page 40

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 176 Next
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1963 Posts
March 04 2013 13:09 GMT
#781
So, has anyone a good top champ, that is not renekton, and can deal with cho and other sustain-tanky bastards like him? Everytime i have to top lately, i loose. I want to change that.

On other news, i don't think Quinn can be played top. She just doesn't do enough damage without building pure glass cannon, and she just does not have enough escape to do that on top lane. I got dumped so hard by akali, i wasn't able to remove Nasus from lane, i destroyed a Kat. Enuf evidence.

The fabulous game from Dyrus, i feel like he build pretty stupid, not using any of the advantages of Taric. Building no mana, no armor too little CDR. But he was very good at saying fabulous.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 13:15:50
March 04 2013 13:13 GMT
#782
AP tryn still so obnoxious. He significantly less obnoxious, but he still split push pretty hard, still borderline unkillable. I think he should be nerfed harder. Its not even that he overpowered, its just when he is in the game it is inevitably stalled out another 20-30 minutes because tryns team likely has a sizable disadvantage because AP tryn's laning is so bad. But his pushing so good that no one gives a damn and you just have to endure split push after split push because that shenanigans so obnoxious.

Then you team only starts dealing with it properly once all your outer turrets dead.

Case in point, I just played a 1:06:38 long ranked game, kills in my teams favor 62-32. If enemy team didn't have an AP tryn, game probably ended at 20 minute mark with other team surrendering.

<_<

It doesn't even matter if you shut him down absurdly hard. He just push and never stop, and it just kills the game. makes it no fun at all. It doesn't require strategy, just binary pushing. Is lane filled with enemy team? No? Push it. Yes? choose another lane.

I dont even think he is imbalanced... I'm just so tired of seeing AP tryndamere in this game. -.-

On March 04 2013 22:09 Broetchenholer wrote:
So, has anyone a good top champ, that is not renekton, and can deal with cho and other sustain-tanky bastards like him? Everytime i have to top lately, i loose. I want to change that.


I like Irelia, personally. They want to play a farmy tanky top? Pick a top that scales better and oblige them with their farm fest. Warwick fun too.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
March 04 2013 13:51 GMT
#783
On March 04 2013 22:09 Broetchenholer wrote:
So, has anyone a good top champ, that is not renekton, and can deal with cho and other sustain-tanky bastards like him? Everytime i have to top lately, i loose. I want to change that.
.


I don't think I've ever in my entire LoL gaming history seen Jax lose to a cho'gath.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 13:59:08
March 04 2013 13:54 GMT
#784
I'm confused how somebody's laning can be "so bad" yet they can't be removed from lane.

Learn to play against a splitpusher. Pick teleport, shove and roam for plays. Come back before he gets to your turret. Rinse, repeat.

If you aren't able to shove him out, then you bascially have to bodyguard your turret as long as Tryndamere is there and hope your team can win the 4v4. If you can force him to back off, then you can do what Hotshot did in Curse vs CLG, and force Tryndamere to participate in teamfights on a character who is awful in teamfights, while you're somebody who has much more impact on teamfights.

Rememeber, your goal is not to kill the Tryndamere. Your goal is to kill the minions.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11912 Posts
March 04 2013 14:03 GMT
#785
On March 04 2013 22:54 sylverfyre wrote:
I'm confused how somebody's laning can be "so bad" yet they can't be removed from lane.

Learn to play against a splitpusher. Pick teleport, shove and roam for plays. Come back before he gets to your turret. Rinse, repeat.

If you aren't able to shove him out, then you bascially have to bodyguard your turret as long as Tryndamere is there and hope your team can win the 4v4. If you can force him to back off, then you can do what Hotshot did in Curse vs CLG, and force Tryndamere to participate in teamfights on a character who is awful in teamfights, while you're somebody who has much more impact on teamfights.

Rememeber, your goal is not to kill the Tryndamere. Your goal is to kill the minions.


It is hard to deal with splitpushing by uncatchable guys in soloqueue, because it is very hard to get exactly one person to go there and just stop them. Either noone goes to stop them, and they just push your inhib down, or all of your team runs towards them while the rest of the team gets free stuff on the other side of the map. The hard part is to just convince one of the persons that can stop that guy 1v1 to go there and stop him, while the rest of the team does other stuff. Luckily, the splitpusher runs into similar problems, where it is hard for him to convince his team to do something somewhere else and NOT get caught 4v5, but also NOT come into his lane and push with him. It's even funnier if you are in the team with the splitpusher, and he just does not splitpush for some weird reason.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 04 2013 14:30 GMT
#786
On March 04 2013 20:25 JonGalt wrote:
Dyrus played and commented a game where he played top lane Taric. I know some people (myself included) was interested in how top Taric would do.

https://t.co/sTvlbtnA6O

Not sure if the link will work but you can search "A fabulous game" by TSirDiesALot on youtube. If anyone watches it, I'd be interested to know how it turned out.

Stonewall mentioned that he thinks Taric jungle is very much on the strong side as well. + Show Spoiler +
It's your boy Guzma!
Xayoz
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia373 Posts
March 04 2013 14:52 GMT
#787
On March 04 2013 22:09 Broetchenholer wrote:
So, has anyone a good top champ, that is not renekton, and can deal with cho and other sustain-tanky bastards like him? Everytime i have to top lately, i loose. I want to change that.

Well. I'd say Elise can deal with about anyone top. Only champ I had some trouble with her would be Yorick, but, it's Yorick...
Whenever you correct someone's grammar just remember that nobody likes you.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
March 04 2013 14:56 GMT
#788
On March 04 2013 23:52 Xayoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 22:09 Broetchenholer wrote:
So, has anyone a good top champ, that is not renekton, and can deal with cho and other sustain-tanky bastards like him? Everytime i have to top lately, i loose. I want to change that.

Well. I'd say Elise can deal with about anyone top. Only champ I had some trouble with her would be Yorick, but, it's Yorick...


And, as anyone on this forum will tell you, playing Yorick makes you evil. Gentleman's Rule of LoL #1: Don't Play Yorick.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 04 2013 15:08 GMT
#789
I play Yorick.

Death is the gift I offer.

I mean, I'm not evil at all.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 04 2013 15:20 GMT
#790
On March 04 2013 21:02 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 20:56 Amarok wrote:
Omg Australian servers!!!

http://www.cybergamer.com.au/forums/thread/425189/Australian-servers/



The guy only said that they are doing some research and havent even decided if aussie servers are worth it, sorry.

Fwiw Riot is hiring for their new Sydney office. Details on Riot's main website.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
March 04 2013 15:28 GMT
#791
On March 05 2013 00:20 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 21:02 LaNague wrote:
On March 04 2013 20:56 Amarok wrote:
Omg Australian servers!!!

http://www.cybergamer.com.au/forums/thread/425189/Australian-servers/



The guy only said that they are doing some research and havent even decided if aussie servers are worth it, sorry.

Fwiw Riot is hiring for their new Sydney office. Details on Riot's main website.


Sounds really cool, but relocating to Australia sounds dangerous. I heard the Zerg landed there, and mixed with local DNA, and the locals actually became LESS deadly when mixed with Zerg DNA.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
March 04 2013 15:37 GMT
#792
On March 05 2013 00:08 Ketara wrote:
I play Yorick.

Death is the gift I offer.

I mean, I'm not evil at all.


I think I've proved my point.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 04 2013 15:39 GMT
#793
Playing Yorick is like playing the hot chick in the programming class who sits next to the nerd and copies off his test. It takes zero effort and the entire class knows what she's doing but they let her do it anyway.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 04 2013 15:47 GMT
#794
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=401365
Is anyone else really jealous?
SO many staff......
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
March 04 2013 15:49 GMT
#795
On March 05 2013 00:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=401365
Is anyone else really jealous?
SO many staff......


One day Wave, one day.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 04 2013 15:50 GMT
#796
I love me some Yorick top.
Hey! How you doin'?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 04 2013 15:55 GMT
#797
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/champion-skin-sale-pain-management

Shyvana's suffering from some minor fractures and bruises after she streaked through the sky in dragon form and crashed headfirst into a wall. Think before you gank and you won't be in so much pain!


*Insert innocent, non-targeted whistling here*
It's your boy Guzma!
discator
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany639 Posts
March 04 2013 15:56 GMT
#798
On March 04 2013 23:30 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 20:25 JonGalt wrote:
Dyrus played and commented a game where he played top lane Taric. I know some people (myself included) was interested in how top Taric would do.

https://t.co/sTvlbtnA6O

Not sure if the link will work but you can search "A fabulous game" by TSirDiesALot on youtube. If anyone watches it, I'd be interested to know how it turned out.

Stonewall mentioned that he thinks Taric jungle is very much on the strong side as well. + Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AgI3InvLUg



why did I just spend 10 in watching that
;;
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
March 04 2013 16:16 GMT
#799
I think that Yorick top is easy but it's actually fairly unforgiving. If you go even or even lose (because of ganks or whatever) to someone who scales mid-lategame even remotely then you pretty much lost your team the game all things being equal. He just doesn't offer much in teamfights outside of his ult. His ult IS nice but it needs to be paired with a hypercarry/ap (kog/cass) to make picking him worth it. If you don't have a significant gold/item advantage he just becomes a mediocre bruiser with no gap closer.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 04 2013 16:26 GMT
#800
The problem with Yorick is your late game presence is much less about how good you are and much more about how good your ADC is.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 176 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
11:30
XXIX - Playoffs Final Day
TaKeTV264
Rex73
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ROOTCatZ 175
NeuroSwarm 170
Nina 161
SpeCial 116
Rex 73
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3213
GuemChi 2697
Snow 94
Aegong 73
Mind 68
yabsab 29
Bale 27
Icarus 4
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Doublelift3946
JimRising 844
Counter-Strike
summit1g9876
Other Games
UpATreeSC46
JuggernautJason8
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick26812
BasetradeTV212
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream118
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 84
• Mapu69
• practicex 13
• OhrlRock 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos990
Upcoming Events
GSL
6h 11m
Replay Cast
19h 11m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 6h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 19h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.