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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 04 2013 05:20 GMT
#741
On March 04 2013 13:32 cascades wrote:
why is EG ex CLGeu so popular?

CLG.EU, then they followed over.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 05:24:37
March 04 2013 05:21 GMT
#742
Show nested quote +
If bot lane picks something that's not very killy, is Quinn support viable?


Her main purpose is dmg so an obv no.

She does a ton of damage without items, though. She just doesn't peel well. Late game she has 1.5s blind on 5s CD and Auto E Auto is almost 600 damage at level 11 with zero items.

Although I guess Sona's Auto Q Auto is almost the same much damage...
But why?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 04 2013 05:23 GMT
#743
On March 04 2013 13:32 cascades wrote:
why is EG ex CLGeu so popular?

They were massively successful for most of Season 2, coming second in OGN and making it to the semi-finals of the World Championship along with winning various other tournaments. A lot of people like Froggen because he makes a lot of big plays. In general the players are just likable and they had quite a bit of success so they were able to build a brand.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
March 04 2013 05:26 GMT
#744
On March 04 2013 14:20 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 13:32 cascades wrote:
why is EG ex CLGeu so popular?

CLG.EU, then they followed over.


CLG is popular, but not so popular.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
March 04 2013 05:28 GMT
#745
On March 04 2013 13:58 Parametric wrote:
in a game with elementz, how the fuck did his elo drop this low XD

He is bad.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
March 04 2013 05:30 GMT
#746
On March 04 2013 13:32 cascades wrote:
why is EG ex CLGeu so popular?


Snoopeh; I'm from Scotland.

Combined with the fact the team as a whole are just a bunch of really nice guys, someone who, as a fan, you can support fully
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
March 04 2013 05:31 GMT
#747
On March 04 2013 14:30 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 13:32 cascades wrote:
why is EG ex CLGeu so popular?


Snoopeh; I'm from Scotland.

Combined with the fact the team as a whole are just a bunch of really nice guys, someone who, as a fan, you can support fully

Snoopeh and Pete are nice, yes. Froggen, Krepo, and Wickd are not.
twitch.tv/cratonz
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
March 04 2013 05:59 GMT
#748
Imagine if CLGna were consistent, successful, and didn't argue so much (or at least not publicly/had good PR)
That's pretty much what CLGeu was
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 04 2013 06:59 GMT
#749
On March 04 2013 13:58 Parametric wrote:
in a game with elementz, how the fuck did his elo drop this low XD

he's always had low elo.
On March 04 2013 14:28 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 13:58 Parametric wrote:
in a game with elementz, how the fuck did his elo drop this low XD

He is bad.

He's good enough to put curse in where they're at right now.
liftlift > tsm
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
March 04 2013 07:00 GMT
#750
On March 04 2013 06:39 remedium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 06:33 little fancy wrote:
What's the deal with Syndra?

It's late midgame, everyone ist 4-5 items. I'm a somewhat fed Vayne. I have roughyl 80 MR (mr/lvl glyphs, jungler's Bulwark), +700 HP from Mallet and 9/21/0 masteries.

I died 3 times this game, always to Syndra who dealt 75-90% of my HP in damage from her ultimate alone. WTF?! I'm not joking, the last death recap before we finally got their Nexus was 1601 (73%) damage from her ultimate. Time to see her a lot more in competitive play?

€dit: I just noticed I have mixed up numbers from the last two death recaps. It was still 1601 damage which obviously can't be 73% of my health when I have a Mallet. Still, the numbers seem incredible to me.


DAMAGE PER SPHERE: 90 / 135 / 180 (+ 20% AP)
MINIMUM DAMAGE (3 SPHERES): 270 / 405 / 540 (+ 60% AP)
MAXIMUM DAMAGE (7 SPHERES): 630 / 975 / 1260 (+ 140% AP)

Syndra has always been incredibly strong - she is just one of those champions that nobody has really 'cracked the nut' of.

This guy used her on the #1 ranked 3's team in S2, and he did ok: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/21781936#ranked-stats


She's banned a lot against Bjergsen, and he's been playing her since release.
wat
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
March 04 2013 07:09 GMT
#751
On March 04 2013 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 13:58 Parametric wrote:
in a game with elementz, how the fuck did his elo drop this low XD

he's always had low elo.
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 14:28 Craton wrote:
On March 04 2013 13:58 Parametric wrote:
in a game with elementz, how the fuck did his elo drop this low XD

He is bad.

He's good enough to put curse in where they're at right now.


What elo is he at? I don't get how some pro players can be good enough for playing in tournaments but stuck in "low" elo.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
March 04 2013 07:12 GMT
#752
On March 04 2013 16:09 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 04 2013 13:58 Parametric wrote:
in a game with elementz, how the fuck did his elo drop this low XD

he's always had low elo.
On March 04 2013 14:28 Craton wrote:
On March 04 2013 13:58 Parametric wrote:
in a game with elementz, how the fuck did his elo drop this low XD

He is bad.

He's good enough to put curse in where they're at right now.


What elo is he at? I don't get how some pro players can be good enough for playing in tournaments but stuck in "low" elo.


Low Plat I think.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 04 2013 07:12 GMT
#753
On March 04 2013 16:09 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 04 2013 13:58 Parametric wrote:
in a game with elementz, how the fuck did his elo drop this low XD

he's always had low elo.
On March 04 2013 14:28 Craton wrote:
On March 04 2013 13:58 Parametric wrote:
in a game with elementz, how the fuck did his elo drop this low XD

He is bad.

He's good enough to put curse in where they're at right now.


What elo is he at? I don't get how some pro players can be good enough for playing in tournaments but stuck in "low" elo.


Its because the team game and the soloqueue game aren't the same game.

Its been like in DotA for a long long time, however these ideas pretty new to LoL because most LoL teams just an amalgeration of good soloqeue players.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 04 2013 07:26 GMT
#754
On March 04 2013 16:12 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 16:09 zodde wrote:
On March 04 2013 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 04 2013 13:58 Parametric wrote:
in a game with elementz, how the fuck did his elo drop this low XD

he's always had low elo.
On March 04 2013 14:28 Craton wrote:
On March 04 2013 13:58 Parametric wrote:
in a game with elementz, how the fuck did his elo drop this low XD

He is bad.

He's good enough to put curse in where they're at right now.


What elo is he at? I don't get how some pro players can be good enough for playing in tournaments but stuck in "low" elo.


Its because the team game and the soloqueue game aren't the same game.

Its been like in DotA for a long long time, however these ideas pretty new to LoL because most LoL teams just an amalgeration of good soloqeue players.

If I remember correctly he ended S2 around 1800-1900 elo.

He's a good enough team player to play at the level required of him.
Daimondprox was also known for being low elo for a "pro" as well.
liftlift > tsm
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 04 2013 07:45 GMT
#755
Can someone explain the following to me:

Ive been duoQ with a buddy of mine, he started at Gold 5 and I got placed into Silver 4. We go duo bot every time and win our lane pretty much every game. In games we win about 80% of our games together.
I started with getting around 25~ points every game for a win and after a couple of games I've already made it into Silver 1.
In Silver 1 I got around 30~ points every won game, while losing about 10 for a loss. I quickly made it into Gold 5. I thought the LP gain would get lower but still im netting about 28~ points every win, still losing about 10 on a loss.

However my buddy all the time has only gained about 15 for a win, losing about 15 for a loss. He actually stayed in Gold 5 during my silver promotions. He just cant get to the promotional series on our games with his far less LP gain.

Infact, last evening I actually managed to pass him, getting into promotions for Gold 4, while he is still only at 78 LP. I gain about double or near triple his LP while I lose way less on a defeat. At first I thought it was because he was simply higher ranked, but its still like this now Ive passed him in rank.

Anyone can enlighten me on the how and why on this one?
KCCO!
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
March 04 2013 07:45 GMT
#756
Is it true that you can move up more than one division from a series? If so, how do you accomplish that?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
March 04 2013 07:57 GMT
#757
On March 04 2013 16:45 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Can someone explain the following to me:

Ive been duoQ with a buddy of mine, he started at Gold 5 and I got placed into Silver 4. We go duo bot every time and win our lane pretty much every game. In games we win about 80% of our games together.
I started with getting around 25~ points every game for a win and after a couple of games I've already made it into Silver 1.
In Silver 1 I got around 30~ points every won game, while losing about 10 for a loss. I quickly made it into Gold 5. I thought the LP gain would get lower but still im netting about 28~ points every win, still losing about 10 on a loss.

However my buddy all the time has only gained about 15 for a win, losing about 15 for a loss. He actually stayed in Gold 5 during my silver promotions. He just cant get to the promotional series on our games with his far less LP gain.

Infact, last evening I actually managed to pass him, getting into promotions for Gold 4, while he is still only at 78 LP. I gain about double or near triple his LP while I lose way less on a defeat. At first I thought it was because he was simply higher ranked, but its still like this now Ive passed him in rank.

Anyone can enlighten me on the how and why on this one?


You gain more because you have further to go.
"Do a barrel roll"
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
March 04 2013 07:57 GMT
#758
On March 04 2013 14:31 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 14:30 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On March 04 2013 13:32 cascades wrote:
why is EG ex CLGeu so popular?


Snoopeh; I'm from Scotland.

Combined with the fact the team as a whole are just a bunch of really nice guys, someone who, as a fan, you can support fully

Snoopeh and Pete are nice, yes. Froggen, Krepo, and Wickd are not.


Please elaborate :D
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 04 2013 07:58 GMT
#759
On March 04 2013 16:57 Phunkapotamus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 16:45 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Can someone explain the following to me:

Ive been duoQ with a buddy of mine, he started at Gold 5 and I got placed into Silver 4. We go duo bot every time and win our lane pretty much every game. In games we win about 80% of our games together.
I started with getting around 25~ points every game for a win and after a couple of games I've already made it into Silver 1.
In Silver 1 I got around 30~ points every won game, while losing about 10 for a loss. I quickly made it into Gold 5. I thought the LP gain would get lower but still im netting about 28~ points every win, still losing about 10 on a loss.

However my buddy all the time has only gained about 15 for a win, losing about 15 for a loss. He actually stayed in Gold 5 during my silver promotions. He just cant get to the promotional series on our games with his far less LP gain.

Infact, last evening I actually managed to pass him, getting into promotions for Gold 4, while he is still only at 78 LP. I gain about double or near triple his LP while I lose way less on a defeat. At first I thought it was because he was simply higher ranked, but its still like this now Ive passed him in rank.

Anyone can enlighten me on the how and why on this one?


You gain more because you have further to go.


Read my last line, I still get more but Ive already passed him ...
KCCO!
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 08:00:03
March 04 2013 07:59 GMT
#760
On March 04 2013 16:45 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Can someone explain the following to me:

Ive been duoQ with a buddy of mine, he started at Gold 5 and I got placed into Silver 4. We go duo bot every time and win our lane pretty much every game. In games we win about 80% of our games together.
I started with getting around 25~ points every game for a win and after a couple of games I've already made it into Silver 1.
In Silver 1 I got around 30~ points every won game, while losing about 10 for a loss. I quickly made it into Gold 5. I thought the LP gain would get lower but still im netting about 28~ points every win, still losing about 10 on a loss.

However my buddy all the time has only gained about 15 for a win, losing about 15 for a loss. He actually stayed in Gold 5 during my silver promotions. He just cant get to the promotional series on our games with his far less LP gain.

Infact, last evening I actually managed to pass him, getting into promotions for Gold 4, while he is still only at 78 LP. I gain about double or near triple his LP while I lose way less on a defeat. At first I thought it was because he was simply higher ranked, but its still like this now Ive passed him in rank.

Anyone can enlighten me on the how and why on this one?



Your MMR is higher than your division.
His MMR is equal to/lower than his division.

Think of it as accelerated ELO when playing ranked for the first time. He's playing league games around his MMR. You're playing league games lower than your MMR. The game tries to balance the two by bootstrapping your League points to your hidden MMR.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
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