EPT[Patch 3.03: Quinn] General Discussion - Page 37
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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LeeDawg
United States1306 Posts
I'm sad | ||
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GettingIt
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On March 04 2013 11:33 LeeDawg wrote: just read the patch notes as I've been traveling. all 3 of my favorite champions, garen, hecarim, and xin zhao got nerfed. I'm sad Don't worry if theyre truly your favorites you will find a way! | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 04 2013 11:29 phyvo wrote: Honestly I wonder if it's even possible to make a 1-2 item timing ranged ADC item without it being as good or better on bruisers. Probably the most defining barrier between AD and bruiser itemization is crit, due to how most bruisers don't have enough interaction with crit in their kits to make it an efficient stat to buy. AD item paired with Crit+AS item (PD) made for a suitably strong 2-item timing in S2, regardless of whether that AD item was BT or IE, but Riot essentially gutted the strength of PD going into S3. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Which means I'll have to try it in normals first to see how smooth it is... at least it'll be way easier than trying out Vi's nerfs. Even when I'm first pick the other guy will ban her. Guess I should spam Xin/Jarvan jungle just to teach those people who blindly ban something because "it's OP" without giving 2 thoughts about it. >_< Also had BotRK -> PD -> IE Vayne last game. Dafuk. The combo was so absurd on her, even before she got her IE, so much AS, and the active to get away from Renekton on top of it. | ||
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Celestia
Mexico376 Posts
On March 04 2013 11:09 RagequitBM wrote: While people say Caitlyn falls off lategame, I've never seen a Cait that isn't doing enough damage. That said I think there are many ADC that can compete with her in lane, and she's not nearly as strong as she seems. Bot lane 1 - 6 is like 60% the support, and 20% jungler(Unless both decide to camp top instead). No, my stats are not backed by any mathematics. Just how I feel as an ADC. But she indeed falls off lategame. In my experience when im playing Cailtyn late game I feel the difference between her and other ADCs, with her I feel more team dependant, while with others like MF or Graves I feel more safe because I can do more damage to those who are diving me. On March 04 2013 10:56 Dark_Chill wrote: Okay, so, this is confusing me a lot. I can understand myself that when I play ADC (which is pretty much only Trist), I'll build BotRK, because it lets her get some acceptable damage before she usually would with other items. But there are so many different opinions in the thread concerning it, so can anyone say for sure whether it's worth building on other AD carries? BotRK is almost a must on every ADC, you just have to build certain items in different order. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On March 04 2013 11:33 LeeDawg wrote: just read the patch notes as I've been traveling. all 3 of my favorite champions, garen, hecarim, and xin zhao got nerfed. I'm sad Hec and Xin are still pretty good. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 04 2013 11:34 TheYango wrote: Probably the most defining barrier between AD and bruiser itemization is crit, due to how most bruisers don't have enough interaction with crit in their kits to make it an efficient stat to buy. AD item paired with Crit+AS item (PD) made for a suitably strong 2-item timing in S2, regardless of whether that AD item was BT or IE, but Riot essentially gutted the strength of PD going into S3. R.I.P Movespeed I missed the old s2 days when ADC's went zoom zoom drive by shooting up everyone. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14203 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
On March 04 2013 12:16 xes wrote: Remove the AS on BotRK but let the passive be able to crit (adjust numbers)? Then bruisers (besides Udyr) couldn't get really cost-effective single slot damage item because it has no AS component but ADCs could still use it as an alternative to BT Udyr builds crit? O.O | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On March 04 2013 12:04 wei2coolman wrote: R.I.P Movespeed I missed the old s2 days when ADC's went zoom zoom drive by shooting up everyone. Now that you've reminded me, I do too. | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On March 04 2013 12:10 Sermokala wrote: Just max e on hecarim now after q instead of w and just leave one point in w. Now you do more damage early and gank harder instead of having that akward mid game. Does the minion cap on healing from Hecarims W also means it's capped against jungle monsters? If so, your jungle sustain is gutten from just having 1 point in W during most of the game. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14203 Posts
On March 04 2013 12:46 zodde wrote: Does the minion cap on healing from Hecarims W also means it's capped against jungle monsters? If so, your jungle sustain is gutten from just having 1 point in W during most of the game. Jungle sustain really isn't a problem past the first clear and if it is for you I don't know what to say. You're playing a heavier gank style in the mid game with hecarim and not the farmer hecarim that you used to play. | ||
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EmeraldSparks
United States1451 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On March 04 2013 13:28 EmeraldSparks wrote: If bot lane picks something that's not very killy, is Quinn support viable? Her main purpose is dmg so an obv no. | ||
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Parametric
Canada1261 Posts
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