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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 15 2013 18:40 GMT
#621
well thats all this game is right now, pick duelers win game so she will fit right in
I come in for the scraps
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 18:48:59
February 15 2013 18:41 GMT
#622
Damn, I feel like I always win my lane when I don't get any help from my jungler, but always lose when my jungler comes in. It feels like he is forcing me to engage in shitty situations and it always ends bad.
I always ends up telling my jungler not to come to help me, and he always takes it bad like I am insulting him or something lol

On February 16 2013 03:05 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 01:53 Purge wrote:
On February 15 2013 22:03 barbsq wrote:
On February 15 2013 18:22 RagequitBM wrote:
I wish there was a Day[9]-esque person for League. Improving feels so arbitrary to me. Like I know I'm a better player than I used to be, because I used to get out-laned regularly, but now I can win lane against almost any below Silver I ADC. However, I'm not sure why I'm better.

My teamfighting is still iffy too.

I'll plug monte's series on the off chance he hasn't seen this post ;o
https://www.youtube.com/user/MontegomeryLoL

imo, monte is well on his way to becoming the day9 of LoL. His mondays with monte series has already helped me a ton.


He literally comes off as a Day9 league clone. There can only be 1. Ill try and watch him som'more though.


I am Monte.

I find the "Day[9] league clone" criticism interesting because it makes me wonder what, exactly, people really want. On the one hand you have people clamoring for a "Day[9]-esque person for League." On the other hand whoever tries fill that role is written off as a "clone".

As far as I can tell the only way everyone would be satisfied is if Day[9] himself switched to League.

I'm not above criticism, I just find this one in particular to be odd.

What you do is quite nice.
You will always get criticized, that's how the internet works. Even Day9 gets a lot of shit, despite the huge fame he has, for being a "narcissic" "egocentric" "power driven" or whatever sins he is supposed to have. Who cares really, be and do what you wants.

Also your beard is not manly enough, go deeper please.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 15 2013 18:45 GMT
#623
On February 16 2013 03:05 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 01:53 Purge wrote:
On February 15 2013 22:03 barbsq wrote:
On February 15 2013 18:22 RagequitBM wrote:
I wish there was a Day[9]-esque person for League. Improving feels so arbitrary to me. Like I know I'm a better player than I used to be, because I used to get out-laned regularly, but now I can win lane against almost any below Silver I ADC. However, I'm not sure why I'm better.

My teamfighting is still iffy too.

I'll plug monte's series on the off chance he hasn't seen this post ;o
https://www.youtube.com/user/MontegomeryLoL

imo, monte is well on his way to becoming the day9 of LoL. His mondays with monte series has already helped me a ton.


He literally comes off as a Day9 league clone. There can only be 1. Ill try and watch him som'more though.


I am Monte.

I find the "Day[9] league clone" criticism interesting because it makes me wonder what, exactly, people really want. On the one hand you have people clamoring for a "Day[9]-esque person for League." On the other hand whoever tries fill that role is written off as a "clone".

As far as I can tell the only way everyone would be satisfied is if Day[9] himself switched to League.

I'm not above criticism, I just find this one in particular to be odd.

AKKKKWARRRRDDDDDD
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
February 15 2013 19:13 GMT
#624
On February 16 2013 02:46 TheYango wrote:
Most top laners who build along the lines of Warmogs->Sunfire or Locket->Warmog's hit ~2.5k HP on their second major item. Almost none of them break 4.5k HP at 6 items. The highest practical amount of HP you would get from items is Warmog's + Sunfire + Locket + Randuin's (and typically you will not get all 4) which is 2350 HP. Base level 18 HP is ~2.2k on most of these heroes so even with the absolute highest practical amount of HP, you'd barely break 4.5k. It's more typical for you to not have all 4 of these items, instead opting for a damage item and/or a non-Giant's Belt defensive item that provides more resists but less HP.

An example for a more than 4.5k health tank is Warmogs/Randuins/Sunfire/Frozen Mallet Shen with 4608 health at lvl.18. I'm also not arguing that this is a likely scenario. What I'm contesting is that hitting 2.5k health by the second item is so much more likely. In both cases, your opponent needs to be going for health otherwise the BotrK will not work. I wanted to stress that it is situational and not straight up better as a second damage item.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 19:58:00
February 15 2013 19:28 GMT
#625
Liandry tests:
I hit the blue buff using Pantheon (since HSS ticks faster than Liandry's and he does physical damage so it's easier to distinguish the purple numbers) with jut Liandry's.
- Liandry reevaluates its damage for every tick (first were 19, then it fell to 18)
- Any spell damage will reset the ticking, so with spells ticking faster than every half-second it seems that Liandry will never proc until the last tick.

I'm going to test it with a spell ticking every half-second this time.

Tested with Udyr's Tiger Stance: Liandry's didn't start ticking until the end of the DoT. Liandry doesn't interact in any special way with DoTs, it just starts ticking later. Don't get your hopes up.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 19:34:38
February 15 2013 19:33 GMT
#626
On February 16 2013 03:05 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 01:53 Purge wrote:
On February 15 2013 22:03 barbsq wrote:
On February 15 2013 18:22 RagequitBM wrote:
I wish there was a Day[9]-esque person for League. Improving feels so arbitrary to me. Like I know I'm a better player than I used to be, because I used to get out-laned regularly, but now I can win lane against almost any below Silver I ADC. However, I'm not sure why I'm better.

My teamfighting is still iffy too.

I'll plug monte's series on the off chance he hasn't seen this post ;o
https://www.youtube.com/user/MontegomeryLoL

imo, monte is well on his way to becoming the day9 of LoL. His mondays with monte series has already helped me a ton.


He literally comes off as a Day9 league clone. There can only be 1. Ill try and watch him som'more though.


I am Monte.

I find the "Day[9] league clone" criticism interesting because it makes me wonder what, exactly, people really want. On the one hand you have people clamoring for a "Day[9]-esque person for League." On the other hand whoever tries fill that role is written off as a "clone".

As far as I can tell the only way everyone would be satisfied is if Day[9] himself switched to League.

I'm not above criticism, I just find this one in particular to be odd.

I think the issue is that people want someone who plays the role of Day[9] providing informative content that can be absorbed by people at any level. What he does is more than just commentary or producing VoDs, so people just use the name of his show as the moniker for that sort of stuff. However Day[9] is also a brand, which means people also attribute him and his personality to the description at the same time.

It's the same as people saying "I want to be the TL of XYZ". Without a proper catch-all word, the next best alternative ends up also carrying with it all the connotation and history as well.

Really, the main thing for anyone who wants to do these sorts of things is just to work on your own identity and who you and your show are as a person, an image and ideal. There's very little escaping the gravitational pull of the black hole that is things like Day[9]'s persona or the TL image. It means you simple have to become your own brand and identity to differentiate yourself and be recognised as a unique entity rather than "a copy of XYZ". In some ways that's a good thing, in others not so much. C'est la vie.

Also, you have nice hair.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 15 2013 19:42 GMT
#627
What do you guys think about this discussion?



Like, would you guys agree that Sc2 WoL > is HOTS is comparable to S2 > S3 patch?
Not surprised it's Scoot though who rants abit on twitter, he claims he has played enough LoL but I doubt he made it past lvl 5 with all the Anti LoL in the past.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
February 15 2013 19:48 GMT
#628
stupid to compare. but they aren't the same if you want an answer.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 15 2013 19:48 GMT
#629
When replays come out I might go over some of mine.

Although I tend to play a bit differently than everyone else, at least in terms of how everyone seems to talk.

I tend to believe that laning, especially in solo q, is VASTLY overrated and that the key to winning games it to play smart and win in the mid game.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 19:53:48
February 15 2013 19:52 GMT
#630
On February 16 2013 04:42 AsnSensation wrote:
What do you guys think about this discussion?

https://twitter.com/mbCARMAC/status/302492716439306240

Like, would you guys agree that Sc2 WoL > is HOTS is comparable to S2 > S3 patch?
Not surprised it's Scoot though who rants abit on twitter, he claims he has played enough LoL but I doubt he made it past lvl 5 with all the Anti LoL in the past.

I'd agree, but to my knowledge there were no tournaments that used S2 patches to qualify, but played the tournament itself on the S3 patch - so I agree that qualifying on WoL and having the tourney on HotS (especially with relatively small notice for players who need to practice) is an atrocious call to make. The S3 patch started during something of an "off-season" I'm trying to remember which tourney did it, but there was at LEAST one tourney that was held on the last S2 patch and not on S3 content.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 15 2013 19:53 GMT
#631
On February 16 2013 03:05 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 01:53 Purge wrote:
On February 15 2013 22:03 barbsq wrote:
On February 15 2013 18:22 RagequitBM wrote:
I wish there was a Day[9]-esque person for League. Improving feels so arbitrary to me. Like I know I'm a better player than I used to be, because I used to get out-laned regularly, but now I can win lane against almost any below Silver I ADC. However, I'm not sure why I'm better.

My teamfighting is still iffy too.

I'll plug monte's series on the off chance he hasn't seen this post ;o
https://www.youtube.com/user/MontegomeryLoL

imo, monte is well on his way to becoming the day9 of LoL. His mondays with monte series has already helped me a ton.


He literally comes off as a Day9 league clone. There can only be 1. Ill try and watch him som'more though.


I am Monte.

I find the "Day[9] league clone" criticism interesting because it makes me wonder what, exactly, people really want. On the one hand you have people clamoring for a "Day[9]-esque person for League." On the other hand whoever tries fill that role is written off as a "clone".

As far as I can tell the only way everyone would be satisfied is if Day[9] himself switched to League.

I'm not above criticism, I just find this one in particular to be odd.

Can't please everyone.
liftlift > tsm
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 15 2013 19:53 GMT
#632
On February 16 2013 04:42 AsnSensation wrote:
What do you guys think about this discussion?

https://twitter.com/mbCARMAC/status/302492716439306240

Like, would you guys agree that Sc2 WoL > is HOTS is comparable to S2 > S3 patch?
Not surprised it's Scoot though who rants abit on twitter, he claims he has played enough LoL but I doubt he made it past lvl 5 with all the Anti LoL in the past.


I don't understand what he's saying at all. He needed more words in there.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 15 2013 19:55 GMT
#633
On February 16 2013 04:52 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 04:42 AsnSensation wrote:
What do you guys think about this discussion?

https://twitter.com/mbCARMAC/status/302492716439306240

Like, would you guys agree that Sc2 WoL > is HOTS is comparable to S2 > S3 patch?
Not surprised it's Scoot though who rants abit on twitter, he claims he has played enough LoL but I doubt he made it past lvl 5 with all the Anti LoL in the past.

I'd agree, but to my knowledge there were no tournaments that used S2 patches to qualify, but played the tournament itself on the S3 patch - so I agree that qualifying on WoL and having the tourney on HotS (especially with relatively small notice for players who need to practice) is an atrocious call to make. The S3 patch started during something of an "off-season" I'm trying to remember which tourney did it, but there was at LEAST one tourney that was held on the last S2 patch and not on S3 content.


It's because of tournament realm.Most big events are 1 patch behind with champs disabled most times.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 15 2013 19:57 GMT
#634
On February 16 2013 04:52 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 04:42 AsnSensation wrote:
What do you guys think about this discussion?

https://twitter.com/mbCARMAC/status/302492716439306240

Like, would you guys agree that Sc2 WoL > is HOTS is comparable to S2 > S3 patch?
Not surprised it's Scoot though who rants abit on twitter, he claims he has played enough LoL but I doubt he made it past lvl 5 with all the Anti LoL in the past.

I'd agree, but to my knowledge there were no tournaments that used S2 patches to qualify, but played the tournament itself on the S3 patch - so I agree that qualifying on WoL and having the tourney on HotS (especially with relatively small notice for players who need to practice) is an atrocious call to make. The S3 patch started during something of an "off-season" I'm trying to remember which tourney did it, but there was at LEAST one tourney that was held on the last S2 patch and not on S3 content.

G-League was played on S2 patch until the semifinals, which were played on S3.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 15 2013 19:58 GMT
#635
On February 16 2013 04:55 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 04:52 sylverfyre wrote:
On February 16 2013 04:42 AsnSensation wrote:
What do you guys think about this discussion?

https://twitter.com/mbCARMAC/status/302492716439306240

Like, would you guys agree that Sc2 WoL > is HOTS is comparable to S2 > S3 patch?
Not surprised it's Scoot though who rants abit on twitter, he claims he has played enough LoL but I doubt he made it past lvl 5 with all the Anti LoL in the past.

I'd agree, but to my knowledge there were no tournaments that used S2 patches to qualify, but played the tournament itself on the S3 patch - so I agree that qualifying on WoL and having the tourney on HotS (especially with relatively small notice for players who need to practice) is an atrocious call to make. The S3 patch started during something of an "off-season" I'm trying to remember which tourney did it, but there was at LEAST one tourney that was held on the last S2 patch and not on S3 content.


It's because of tournament realm.Most big events are 1 patch behind with champs disabled most times.

Or same patch with most recent champ[s] disabled. Riot tries to keep their tournament realm such that players don't have tournament games on a brand new patch that they didn't have time to practice on, despite the quick patch cycle.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 15 2013 20:00 GMT
#636
On February 16 2013 02:55 5miley wrote:
Put botrk on udyr and kill everything.


WW is better. Basically get botrk, wits, and then kill EVERYBODY slowly but surely. So incredibly satisfying to eat the initiation from the other team, drop 1.5k life, Q->ult->autos->Q back to full HP and nobody has CD's to kill you any more.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 15 2013 20:02 GMT
#637
On February 16 2013 04:57 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 04:52 sylverfyre wrote:
On February 16 2013 04:42 AsnSensation wrote:
What do you guys think about this discussion?

https://twitter.com/mbCARMAC/status/302492716439306240

Like, would you guys agree that Sc2 WoL > is HOTS is comparable to S2 > S3 patch?
Not surprised it's Scoot though who rants abit on twitter, he claims he has played enough LoL but I doubt he made it past lvl 5 with all the Anti LoL in the past.

I'd agree, but to my knowledge there were no tournaments that used S2 patches to qualify, but played the tournament itself on the S3 patch - so I agree that qualifying on WoL and having the tourney on HotS (especially with relatively small notice for players who need to practice) is an atrocious call to make. The S3 patch started during something of an "off-season" I'm trying to remember which tourney did it, but there was at LEAST one tourney that was held on the last S2 patch and not on S3 content.

G-League was played on S2 patch until the semifinals, which were played on S3.

Really? D: Fuck.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 15 2013 20:28 GMT
#638
Is the healing from BotRK pre resists the same way Thornmail return damage is before resist? I just play against an Udyr top that built BotRK + AD Stone: one teamfight it was me (Jarvan) and Lee 2v4 their back line so our back line got free damage and after killing their carries it was a brief 5v3 with our bruisers low and our ADC just couldn't outdamage Udyr's lifesteal off of BotRK + Tiger
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 15 2013 20:34 GMT
#639
TIL that there was a cinematic trailer for Dominon. I don't know if it ever aired, but holy shit if it's not badass.
It's your boy Guzma!
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
February 15 2013 20:38 GMT
#640
On February 16 2013 05:34 Requizen wrote:
TIL that there was a cinematic trailer for Dominon. I don't know if it ever aired, but holy shit if it's not badass.

For those who have not seen it:

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