EPT[Patch 3.02: Fake Quinn] General Discussion - Page 29
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Requizen
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TheYango
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On February 15 2013 22:58 OutlaW- wrote: The heal from the active effect will always be equal to 150 (+50% Total AD) - it is calculated before the effects of damage mitigation are considered. Disregarding the active ability, to exceed damage gained by a fully stacked The Bloodthirster on a target, the target must have at least 1100 health. To deal more average damage to a target than a The Bloodthirster from full to no health, the target must have over 2200 health. Your attacks deal 5% of the target's current health in physical damage and heals you for half the amount (120 max. vs. minions) - heals half the damage of the damage that is dealt Bear in mind that people tend to spend more time at lower health than at higher health because up-front burst damage means people will generally lose a significant chunk of their HP up front from the first round of abilities, and then lose the remaining health over the rest of the fight. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On February 16 2013 00:39 TheYango wrote: Bear in mind that people tend to spend more time at lower health than at higher health because up-front burst damage means people will generally lose a significant chunk of their HP up front from the first round of abilities, and then lose the remaining health over the rest of the fight. With that in mind, it makes me wonder if Twitch would really like BOTRK, since his burst is reversed (finishing burst rather than up-front burst) That said, people have over 2200 health a LOT, and if theyre at 3k, they're unlikely to be losing over 1k in the init burst of abilities, pushing up BOTRK's power. | ||
NeoIllusions
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oh, and rune pages. | ||
AsmodeusXI
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On February 16 2013 00:40 NeoIllusions wrote: Are the new champ packages worth it? I can't imagine spending on RP on anything but on sale skins. @_@ oh, and rune pages. How have you played for so long and still manage to have a "Oh, I can wait to buy stuff" mentality? I don't understand it. But, for the record, if you like the Champ and their skin, the package is more or less equivalent to a sale. | ||
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Purge
Canada372 Posts
On February 15 2013 20:37 NeoIllusions wrote: Purge, you came out of nowhere but I like your posts.  Yay! Thank you. Glad to see I am putting my LoL nerdiness to good work. TBH I should have been here posting alot earlier - this account has been open for years - but I came back to TL because of the amazing LoL tournament writeups they made. + Im lazy. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 16 2013 00:39 sylverfyre wrote: With that in mind, it makes me wonder if Twitch would really like BOTRK, since his burst is reversed (finishing burst rather than up-front burst) That said, people have over 2200 health a LOT, and if theyre at 3k, they're unlikely to be losing over 1k in the init burst of abilities, pushing up BOTRK's power. Well I mean, burst doesn't come primarily from the AD carry, regardless. It's more to do with the other 4 champs in the game than you. That said, I already made note before that Twitch specifically is a pretty good BotRK candidate. | ||
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Duvon
Sweden2360 Posts
Or if it was the other way around. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 16 2013 00:42 AsmodeusXI wrote: How have you played for so long and still manage to have a "Oh, I can wait to buy stuff" mentality? I don't understand it. But, for the record, if you like the Champ and their skin, the package is more or less equivalent to a sale. Sitting on 95K of IP and still stingy, npnpnp. I may be a tad miserly. On February 16 2013 00:47 Purge wrote: Yay! Thank you. Glad to see I am putting my LoL nerdiness to good work. TBH I should have been here posting alot earlier - this account has been open for years - but I came back to TL because of the amazing LoL tournament writeups they made. + Im lazy. Cheers And please stop it with the jam/marmalade talk. It's run its course. ty | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On February 16 2013 00:54 NeoIllusions wrote: Sitting on 95K of IP and still stingy, npnpnp. I may be a tad miserly. O_O I hate to bring another picture into this thread, but + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.oocities.org/theyasher/scrooge.jpg) I WISH I HAD THAT MUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCH. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On February 16 2013 00:40 NeoIllusions wrote: Are the new champ packages worth it? I can't imagine spending on RP on anything but on sale skins. @_@ oh, and rune pages. Depends on the skin. I got Full Metal Jayce thinking it'd be awesome, but it kinda sucks. Mecha Kha'Zix is super awesome and worth the money (though I barely play him). While a lot of people think the fire themed skins are annoying, I think Phoenix Quinn and Valor looks pretty sweet as a release skin. | ||
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Canada372 Posts
On February 15 2013 20:46 Alaric wrote: You're reading the stats for level 1 Quinn compared to level "0" Amumu/Graves/Zed I think. The wiki has them at level 0 but the datamining gets them at level 1. I like Tear on her now for the mana needs, with the reduced cost and how fast Syndra stacks it you reach a comfort zone where even without blue you can lane and spam forever pretty quickly. I've been liking to get DFG (or at least the codex) for the CDR since stacking tear and grail seems like overkill, but I'm probably doing it wrong. Haven't played enough of her s3. I can't check it right now, maybe I'll be able to do it this evening, but apparently once you triggered Liandry, as long as you only refresh it (rather than trigger it again on this target after it has expired) it does the same amount of damage rather than recalculate its ticks on the target's current HP when your "refreshing" spell hits? If it's true, that shit's completely OP. Also Brand. Too bad he's a burst mage.  The issue with that syndra build is that you are really, really squishy. Its really glass cannon-y and you run the risk of just getting focused and blown up (which is why Im sure l1nk runs the build he does). Also, my issue with DFG is that you next to never get a chance to use it lategame the way you want to. So If your not getting it really early (dependent on farm, etc) you just wont be able to do anything. Just my 2 cents though, take it for what you will. Also, On liandries- The only concrete facts that Ive been able to find on it are: - that it calculates % based on the remaining health after your spell does damage. If thats the case, then I assume that its recalculated after every tick of damage. - That the burn is a series of .5 second procs doesnt start until .5 seconds after the spell is cast. Not sure how that Interaction works with DoTs though. | ||
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Canada372 Posts
On February 15 2013 23:36 Crownlol wrote: So I was laning against Caitlyn/Nidalee just now... Simulation Your first time? Oooooh. We have all been there. Gayest thing since karthus before he got chain nerfed like he deserved (Why did he have armorshred again?). Mind you not op. Just extremely bitchy. | ||
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Canada372 Posts
On February 16 2013 00:42 AsmodeusXI wrote: How have you played for so long and still manage to have a "Oh, I can wait to buy stuff" mentality? I don't understand it. But, for the record, if you like the Champ and their skin, the package is more or less equivalent to a sale. I play so much that Ill have enough IP for them in like 1&1/2-2 weeks. So no rush. | ||
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Ketara
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When I'm playing Kennen and going into teamfights, I can't not alt tab and turn this on + Show Spoiler + | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On February 16 2013 01:10 Ketara wrote: So, I have a problem. When I'm playing Kennen and going into teamfights, I can't not alt tab and turn this on + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TsE01qdy5A How is that a problem? =P Macro it to your keyboard if you're distracted npnp. | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
On February 16 2013 00:52 TheYango wrote: Well I mean, burst doesn't come primarily from the AD carry, regardless. It's more to do with the other 4 champs in the game than you. That said, I already made note before that Twitch specifically is a pretty good BotRK candidate. What I'm going for is that BotrK is a lategame item, which is sometimes better than a BT. I would never see myself building it as 1st/2nd damage item like a BT. So if for some reason, I don't build BT, but I end up with a vamp scepter in my inventory and I hit my 5th/6th item, I can check the enemy team comp and go... Hmmm everbody has 3K health at least. Lets go botrk. | ||
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Phrost
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On February 16 2013 00:40 NeoIllusions wrote: Are the new champ packages worth it? I can't imagine spending on RP on anything but on sale skins. @_@ oh, and rune pages. Who buys runepages for RP? All of my extra ones have been from recruit-a-friend and ip | ||
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koreasilver
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TheYango
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On February 16 2013 01:11 BlueSpace wrote: What I'm going for is that BotrK is a lategame item, which is sometimes better than a BT. I would never see myself building it as 1st/2nd damage item like a BT. So if for some reason, I don't build BT, but I end up with a vamp scepter in my inventory and I hit my 5th/6th item, I can check the enemy team comp and go... Hmmm everbody has 3K health at least. Lets go botrk. The item is actually better early now than it is later. This is for two reasons: 1) Warmogs' popularity means that typically many players are buying their HP first and their resists later, and 2) later on the increased effectiveness of the BotRK proc doesn't actually outweigh the fact that it can't crit. The RoG link posted shows this pretty clearly. The scenarios where BotRK is better than the alternatives are most pronounced at the point of 2 damage items. At 3-4 damage items, it's actually not that amazing. | ||
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