EPT[Patch 3.02: Fake Quinn] General Discussion - Page 164
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onlywonderboy
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Shikyo
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komokun
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EquilasH
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Shikyo
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On March 01 2013 03:24 komokun wrote: what does ignore him mean ? in fights you ignore the fact he exists. If he's splitpushing I don't see how he's any different to deal with than AD trynd apart from the fact that he deals far less damage(even with E) and he cannot 1v1 anything. Hopefully I'll get games against better AP Trondomeres though. | ||
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Gaslo
Finland951 Posts
On March 01 2013 03:26 Shikyo wrote: in fights you ignore the fact he exists. If he's splitpushing I don't see how he's any different to deal with than AD trynd apart from the fact that he deals far less damage(even with E) and he cannot 1v1 anything. Hopefully I'll get games against better AP Trondomeres though. Cant 1v1 anything, what? | ||
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Mensol
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Dont take him seriously and ignore his posts. | ||
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Simberto
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StateAlchemist
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Shikyo
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Still, in 1v1 he cannot afford to waste heal because he needs it after his ult, and E really doesn't deal that much more damage than with AD especially if they go Youmus(which imo is currently good for AD Tryndamere). This means that in a committed 1v1 AD Tryndamere is far better. AP Tryndamere is better at running away I guess, but if AD Tryndamere would have died, I don't see how AP Tryndamere wouldn't have. The main thing probably is the AP getting him past his awful early game. I should have experimented some more with starting AP and then selling it all and switching into AD in the early midgame. Actually, starting 11pot will probably fix the earlygame issue... | ||
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onlywonderboy
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
On March 01 2013 03:40 Shikyo wrote: Yeah, it's exaggeration. Still, in 1v1 he cannot afford to waste heal because he needs it after his ult, and E really doesn't deal that much more damage than with AD especially if they go Youmus(which imo is currently good for AD Tryndamere). This means that in a committed 1v1 AD Tryndamere is far better. AP Tryndamere is better at running away I guess, but if AD Tryndamere would have died, I don't see how AP Tryndamere wouldn't have. The main thing probably is the AP getting him past his awful early game. I should have experimented some more with starting AP and then selling it all and switching into AD in the early midgame. Actually, starting 11pot will probably fix the earlygame issue... oh hey, shikyo's back! Got tired of dota 2? | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On March 01 2013 03:40 Shikyo wrote: Yeah, it's exaggeration. Still, in 1v1 he cannot afford to waste heal because he needs it after his ult, and E really doesn't deal that much more damage than with AD especially if they go Youmus(which imo is currently good for AD Tryndamere). This means that in a committed 1v1 AD Tryndamere is far better. AP Tryndamere is better at running away I guess, but if AD Tryndamere would have died, I don't see how AP Tryndamere wouldn't have. The main thing probably is the AP getting him past his awful early game. I should have experimented some more with starting AP and then selling it all and switching into AD in the early midgame. Actually, starting 11pot will probably fix the earlygame issue... You really haven't played against many AP Tryndameres, have you? You fail to understand some of the most basic and annoying things about him - his heal has a 7 second cooldown - there's no need to save it or anything. His spinning slash deals quite a bit more damage as AP over AD and it's extremely low cd, especially if you crit once or twice. His 1v1 and 1v2 is nothing short of amazing. | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On March 01 2013 03:40 Shikyo wrote: Yeah, it's exaggeration. Still, in 1v1 he cannot afford to waste heal because he needs it after his ult, and E really doesn't deal that much more damage than with AD especially if they go Youmus(which imo is currently good for AD Tryndamere). This means that in a committed 1v1 AD Tryndamere is far better. AP Tryndamere is better at running away I guess, but if AD Tryndamere would have died, I don't see how AP Tryndamere wouldn't have. The main thing probably is the AP getting him past his awful early game. I should have experimented some more with starting AP and then selling it all and switching into AD in the early midgame. Actually, starting 11pot will probably fix the earlygame issue... There is no way that AD trynda is better 1v1 versus ANYTHING than AP trynda is. He can trade 80% of his health for 30% of your health, and still consider that a very good trade, because he will be back at full health within like 20 seconds. He also instaclears waves and crushes towers, so if you do have to back, the tower is gone. Dcap Nashors CDR boots trynda is near immovable from lane, and very very slippery, and it only gets worse the more AP he gets. With 600 AP and cdr cap, you can solo baron or solo their base without minions. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On March 01 2013 03:40 Shikyo wrote: Yeah, it's exaggeration. Still, in 1v1 he cannot afford to waste heal because he needs it after his ult, and E really doesn't deal that much more damage than with AD especially if they go Youmus(which imo is currently good for AD Tryndamere). This means that in a committed 1v1 AD Tryndamere is far better. AP Tryndamere is better at running away I guess, but if AD Tryndamere would have died, I don't see how AP Tryndamere wouldn't have. The main thing probably is the AP getting him past his awful early game. I should have experimented some more with starting AP and then selling it all and switching into AD in the early midgame. Actually, starting 11pot will probably fix the earlygame issue... Actually you do use the Q heal during a 1v1, as soon as you need it so that it's up again after your ultimate. It's only a 7.2 sec CD with 40% CDR which you get from your first 2 items (Nashor's, CDR boots). I bet you think AP is weak because you're playing it wrong. Knowing you it's almost certainly the case. | ||
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Slayer91
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sylverfyre
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Abenson
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I guess the Nashors Tooth change helped but I wonder I wonder. | ||
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Shikyo
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