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On February 06 2013 07:18 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 07:10 Cloud9157 wrote:
Well they're trying to buff aps judging by those changes. There still isn't an ap item equivalent to BC for ad champs. ADs don't have an equivalent to zhonya's either, the game isn't supposed to have an item for every possible situation
I'm more getting at the fact that BC has everything an ad would want, while aps are stuck with a bunch of niche items.
BC gives health, ad, cdr, and armor penetration. Everything Bruisers want is right there. dfg should be the equivalent but gives ap and cdr only.
On February 06 2013 07:15 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 07:10 Cloud9157 wrote:
Well they're trying to buff aps judging by those changes. There still isn't an ap item equivalent to BC for ad champs. Liandry's is supposed to be the equivalent. Guise + Ruby = Liandry's Bruta + Ruby = BC
y u no cdr
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On February 06 2013 07:19 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 07:14 Cuddle wrote:
Plz Riot plz, call it iBlitz or iCrank...sounds so much better than iBlitzcrank. The words after i is supposed to be short.
I guess you could do "I Blitzcrank" but that'd be an Asimov reference and not Apple. I thought it was an Asimov reference...
Considering the model looks like this:
![[image loading]](http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/attachments/45/837/634956189910251945.png)
I'd put my money more on Apple than Asimov.
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On February 06 2013 07:17 Ketara wrote:
And Liandry's proc is getting a significant damage buff in these PBE changes. Big big buff for some champs.
Im sick of Liandry with teemo mushrooms taking half of my hp -_-
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Also the official mac lol client coming out
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On February 06 2013 07:25 Usagi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 07:17 Ketara wrote:
And Liandry's proc is getting a significant damage buff in these PBE changes. Big big buff for some champs. Im sick of Liandry with teemo mushrooms taking half of my hp -_-
That has more to do with the high base damage and AP scaling + Guise MPen than it does with the proc, which is halved.
Actually, is it quartered since it's both AoE and DoT? I don't think so, but I don't build it on anyone but Elise.
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On February 06 2013 07:27 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 07:25 Usagi wrote:On February 06 2013 07:17 Ketara wrote:
And Liandry's proc is getting a significant damage buff in these PBE changes. Big big buff for some champs. Im sick of Liandry with teemo mushrooms taking half of my hp -_- That has more to do with the high base damage and AP scaling + Guise MPen than it does with the proc, which is halved. Actually, is it quartered since it's both AoE and DoT? I don't think so, but I don't build it on anyone but Elise.
I fI understand the wiki correctly, AoE changes nothing to the damage. DoT means it's only applied for 1.5 sec rather than 3 sec, but I guess every tick of the DoT will apply the damage (can someone confirm?). The slow means the damage is doubled.
Overall I think you underestimate the extra damage from Liandry's torment.
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On February 06 2013 07:07 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 07:01 Requizen wrote:On February 06 2013 07:00 GregMandel wrote:
I don't think I've ever played with/against nasus.
How sad is that ? Even during nasus free week I just don't see anyone on him
What does he do with his Q ? http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/NasusEdit: I actually rather like Nasus. He was one of the first champions I played, and when I was leveling I played him a lot every free week. I'd like to play him some more, but I dislike being a bandwagoner. Kind of petty of me, sure, so sue me. Fuck the bandwagon, man. I've been playing Nasus forever (70% WR S2 and my first Quadra) and played him intermittently in normals throughout S1-2. Just because they buff him and I'm excited to bust him out again doesn't mean I'm a bandwagoner. I played Eve before she was nerfed AND after (it sucked but I missed her) so when I tried my hardest to get her to work before people figured it out end of S2 does that make me a bandwagoner? F that. (Me abusing her to S2 Gold after people figured her out, maybe.  )
Ever since 2010 my main AD carries have been Ezreal and Corki. Back then Corki was fotm and crazy broken so you probably could label me as a bandwagon Corki player. But I still play Corki even if no one else does and he's still really fucking good. And I played Ez for like the entire year that the community bitched that he was underpowered and worthless and worst ADC in the game. Kind of annoying that he's been overplayed for like eight or nine months now and I get called a meta whore for playing him.
As long as you still fuck shit up with a champion I don't think it matters if it becomes fotm.
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On February 06 2013 06:50 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 06:49 WaveofShadow wrote:Lol. LOL. DAT NASUS BUFF They REALLY are looking to make him viable, aren't they? All this Nasus testing/talk is making me REAL happy he was my very 1st champion and I won literally every skin made for him. Well I was going to start playing him, but clearly Riot is trying to make him FotM. I'll stick to my underplayed Bear, tyvm. I need to feel hipster about some things.
I bought him yesterday just to jungle him for kicks and giggles (without building/using crit I mean).
And that means I can still get 40% from 9-0-21 + DFG + grail, but still... fuck those CDR nerfs across the board. >_> Though 20 on FH and SV could satisfy a lot of bruisers.
On February 06 2013 07:06 GregMandel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 07:01 Requizen wrote:On February 06 2013 07:00 GregMandel wrote:
I don't think I've ever played with/against nasus.
How sad is that ? Even during nasus free week I just don't see anyone on him
What does he do with his Q ? http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/NasusEdit: I actually rather like Nasus. He was one of the first champions I played, and when I was leveling I played him a lot every free week. I'd like to play him some more, but I dislike being a bandwagoner. Kind of petty of me, sure, so sue me. Interesting mechanics, it looks he's kind of a useless champ without his ult, or he really needs farm, both for his q and because he's basically an anti carry ( pop q and ult and blow up someone ) but without any gape closer so he needs to survive longer.l
It's more of a "W their AD, get kited as he QSS's it, pop ult to survive, W again 3s later, get dropped to 300 HP to kill him, then kill everyone as your Q heals you for 200+ every other second thanks to passive and CDR".
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On February 06 2013 07:37 NpG)Explosive wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 07:27 Requizen wrote:On February 06 2013 07:25 Usagi wrote:On February 06 2013 07:17 Ketara wrote:
And Liandry's proc is getting a significant damage buff in these PBE changes. Big big buff for some champs. Im sick of Liandry with teemo mushrooms taking half of my hp -_- That has more to do with the high base damage and AP scaling + Guise MPen than it does with the proc, which is halved. Actually, is it quartered since it's both AoE and DoT? I don't think so, but I don't build it on anyone but Elise. I fI understand the wiki correctly, AoE changes nothing to the damage. DoT means it's only applied for 1.5 sec rather than 3 sec, but I guess every tick of the DoT will apply the damage (can someone confirm?). The slow means the damage is doubled. Overall I think you underestimate the extra damage from Liandry's torment.
It specifically references "multi-target" abilities in the text, so yes AoE is halved.
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Ok this is stupid. I worked for like 3 days to get the bump to silver 2. I lose 1 game in silver 2 and immediatly drop down to 3 again. With 50 less points then I had.
That's not even close to being ok.
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On February 06 2013 07:46 Cixah wrote:
Ok this is stupid. I worked for like 3 days to get the bump to silver 2. I lose 1 game in silver 2 and immediatly drop down to 3 again. With 50 less points then I had.
That's not even close to being ok.
I feel you, happened to me with 2 straight loses, and also it feels like I always get less points when I win than I lose when I lose the game... a 3-3 has netted me -17 points in total xD
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I think the problem with the league system is that it does a HORRIBLE job of putting people where their MM dictates they should be. It most likely has to do with the whole wins/games played interaction.
Based on what Ive heard and I am intuiting, the system has grossly inflated people's divisions with regard to where they should be based purely on MMR. However, since division seems to be strictly based on the MMR, if you arent close, then you start getting wonky things happening like low point gains and huge losses.
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I was all for this new system, but when crap like that happens I want it gone. Away. Forever. I'd rather have people pissing about their elo and grinding through that system, then to have EVERY game be worth more than the last.
This system makes me feel like actually just playing games is bad. Especially if you lose.
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On February 06 2013 07:22 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 07:19 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 06 2013 07:14 Cuddle wrote:
Plz Riot plz, call it iBlitz or iCrank...sounds so much better than iBlitzcrank. The words after i is supposed to be short.
I guess you could do "I Blitzcrank" but that'd be an Asimov reference and not Apple. I thought it was an Asimov reference... Considering the model looks like this: I'd put my money more on Apple than Asimov.
![[image loading]](http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Technology/Pix/pictures/2008/04/09/Irobot460x276.jpg)
Meh. It looks like both. Silver and blue light in the middle is the same.
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I think Rammus is back on top. Such a monster late game. 
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Yeah. I don't think it makes sense that when you go up a division, you start with 0 points, but when you go down one, you start with 50. That makes it a lot easier to go down divisions than up.
Presumably it should even out because you gain or lose more LP depending on your MMR, but it would seem to make it even less precise than Elo was.
That said, I think part of the problem is temporary: people were placed partly based on top Elo, which means that if you're a lot lower than your top Elo you will naturally fall at first unless you win more than you lose.
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This Jayce skin is quite sexy, too bad I dont have this hero 
Just bought out Zyra as some suggested a while ago, damn she is so fucking awesome. Could only play her support twice, but she carried the shit out of our team, with that ult (people at my elo loves to run in ults together).
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does shard of true ice active proc liandry's?
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It shouldn't, since it doesn't do damage.
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On February 06 2013 07:37 NpG)Explosive wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 07:27 Requizen wrote:On February 06 2013 07:25 Usagi wrote:On February 06 2013 07:17 Ketara wrote:
And Liandry's proc is getting a significant damage buff in these PBE changes. Big big buff for some champs. Im sick of Liandry with teemo mushrooms taking half of my hp -_- That has more to do with the high base damage and AP scaling + Guise MPen than it does with the proc, which is halved. Actually, is it quartered since it's both AoE and DoT? I don't think so, but I don't build it on anyone but Elise. I fI understand the wiki correctly, AoE changes nothing to the damage. DoT means it's only applied for 1.5 sec rather than 3 sec, but I guess every tick of the DoT will apply the damage (can someone confirm?). The slow means the damage is doubled. Overall I think you underestimate the extra damage from Liandry's torment.
Teemos Shrooms with Liandrys are slightly weird, because the buff gets refreshed all the time, which eats some ticks. Note that all the restrictions from AE and DOT always just influence the duration, not the amount of damge it does, which is increased by the slow. If i recall my testing correctly, Liandry's off a teemo shroom gets 4 double damage ticks and 3 non-doubled ticks, because the refreshing by the dot always eats one tick.
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