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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 05 2013 16:07 GMT
#1861
Wow, they lowered the CDR on like everything.

I liked how Ohmwrecker used to be. It was so good for tower sieges as Maokai. Now its just an awkward not-RoA.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
February 05 2013 16:17 GMT
#1862
K the TL dudes that caused me to be in Taric's Enforcers, fess up.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22305 Posts
February 05 2013 16:26 GMT
#1863
On February 06 2013 00:43 kainzero wrote:
i dunno what happened to ashe but i think she's probably the worst ad carry at the moment, she just doesn't seem to do enough damage anymore.

maybe it's the warmogs meta or something


She has no dash like a fair few other ad's (vayne/trist/ez/cait)
She has no steroid.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 16:31:57
February 05 2013 16:31 GMT
#1864
On February 06 2013 01:26 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 00:43 kainzero wrote:
i dunno what happened to ashe but i think she's probably the worst ad carry at the moment, she just doesn't seem to do enough damage anymore.

maybe it's the warmogs meta or something


She has no dash like a fair few other ad's (vayne/trist/ez/cait)
She has no steroid.


^ although like kog maw she becomes extremely relevant with nunu.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 16:34:46
February 05 2013 16:34 GMT
#1865
On February 06 2013 01:31 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 01:26 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 06 2013 00:43 kainzero wrote:
i dunno what happened to ashe but i think she's probably the worst ad carry at the moment, she just doesn't seem to do enough damage anymore.

maybe it's the warmogs meta or something


She has no dash like a fair few other ad's (vayne/trist/ez/cait)
She has no steroid.


^ although like kog maw she becomes extremely relevant with nunu.

I can take almost anyone and make him relevant with Nunu.
God Bless
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
February 05 2013 16:35 GMT
#1866
Ashe just doesn't fit the current concept of an ADC which is essentially to always do tons of damage and stay alive to do so. She is much more utility based, with a great initiation ability and a nice scouting ability, and tons of slow. These utility functions are typically filled by other roles now and thus you get a redundancy with her on your team with a sacrifice of pure dps. Also with so many assassins/bruisers with jumps and dashes, her awesome kiting ability is severely limited.
I got nothin'...
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
February 05 2013 16:36 GMT
#1867
Is Rumble supposed to do alright versus Zed or the guy I laned against was terrible at Zed ?
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 05 2013 16:42 GMT
#1868
The PBR item changes make Morellonomicon a much more attractive item for casters, since DFG and Athenes CDR were both lowered.

Also makes Ohmwrecker an actual support item, which is neat. Good to have something building out of Philo that gives AP.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 05 2013 16:42 GMT
#1869
On February 06 2013 01:17 cascades wrote:
K the TL dudes that caused me to be in Taric's Enforcers, fess up.


Welcome to my personal hell. =D
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
February 05 2013 16:44 GMT
#1870
Out of all the adcs, ashe's ult is the most fun.

But yeah, she feels somewhat underwhelming atm.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 16:51:21
February 05 2013 16:50 GMT
#1871
On February 06 2013 01:44 thenexusp wrote:
Out of all the adcs, ashe's ult is the most fun.

But yeah, she feels somewhat underwhelming atm.

Yeah, two utility spells hurts her damage potential. I still think her passive should be just changed to static crit or crit damage bonus.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
February 05 2013 16:56 GMT
#1872
Had a bad start with anivia, giving 2 kills to Ryze early. The team started picking on me

Me + support tried to tell them to chill, calm down. They wouldn't stop

At some point, I was mad. They were all like We want you out of this game, etc. And I just typed : "You people are the reason why this game is so toxic"

And their reply? : "Lol, non, league of legends is toxic because of shitty players like you (me)"

gg
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
February 05 2013 17:00 GMT
#1873
On February 06 2013 01:56 XenOmega wrote:
Had a bad start with anivia, giving 2 kills to Ryze early. The team started picking on me

Me + support tried to tell them to chill, calm down. They wouldn't stop

At some point, I was mad. They were all like We want you out of this game, etc. And I just typed : "You people are the reason why this game is so toxic"

And their reply? : "Lol, non, league of legends is toxic because of shitty players like you (me)"

gg


QQ Thread is that way
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 05 2013 17:04 GMT
#1874
On February 06 2013 01:50 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 01:44 thenexusp wrote:
Out of all the adcs, ashe's ult is the most fun.

But yeah, she feels somewhat underwhelming atm.

Yeah, two utility spells hurts her damage potential. I still think her passive should be just changed to static crit or crit damage bonus.

I still think people need to rethink building and playing Ashe. In the same way Urgot isn't really an ADC, but more of an AD ranged bruiser/ADC hybrid type thing, Ashe is more of an ADC/Support hybrid. She works much better in a team comp where you're not entirely relying on the ADC.

Maybe I'll start playing her and fiddling around with different builds aside from straight ADC. I'm sure I'll get banned for trolling in the meantime.
It's your boy Guzma!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 05 2013 17:07 GMT
#1875
On February 06 2013 01:56 XenOmega wrote:
Had a bad start with anivia, giving 2 kills to Ryze early. The team started picking on me

Me + support tried to tell them to chill, calm down. They wouldn't stop

At some point, I was mad. They were all like We want you out of this game, etc. And I just typed : "You people are the reason why this game is so toxic"

And their reply? : "Lol, non, league of legends is toxic because of shitty players like you (me)"

gg


play better pls x)

honestly though I feel like if you play bad and people start flaming you; it's even worse to defend yourself than to just mute them if they are too annoying.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 05 2013 17:09 GMT
#1876
On February 06 2013 02:04 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 01:50 Gahlo wrote:
On February 06 2013 01:44 thenexusp wrote:
Out of all the adcs, ashe's ult is the most fun.

But yeah, she feels somewhat underwhelming atm.

Yeah, two utility spells hurts her damage potential. I still think her passive should be just changed to static crit or crit damage bonus.

I still think people need to rethink building and playing Ashe. In the same way Urgot isn't really an ADC, but more of an AD ranged bruiser/ADC hybrid type thing, Ashe is more of an ADC/Support hybrid. She works much better in a team comp where you're not entirely relying on the ADC.

Maybe I'll start playing her and fiddling around with different builds aside from straight ADC. I'm sure I'll get banned for trolling in the meantime.


Maybe try putting her in a Thresh lane with Thresh AD. Her crit + his Q = ridiculous poke, and her ult can set up some nasty kills with his Q/E/R stuff.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
February 05 2013 17:09 GMT
#1877
I love having an Ashe on my team (or playing her for that matter). The initiation and the constant slows on everybody is just waaay too good to pass up. I'd play with a good ashe over any other ADC any day of the week.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 05 2013 17:14 GMT
#1878
Ashe needs lots of gold (imo) to do the Deeps compared to other ADs. Maybe they should buff her Hawkshot gold bonus.
Freeeeeeedom
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
February 05 2013 17:16 GMT
#1879
"We're gonna win this game ! Win Zhao, king of the win !" - TheOddOne
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 05 2013 17:20 GMT
#1880
On February 06 2013 02:14 cLutZ wrote:
Ashe needs lots of gold (imo) to do the Deeps compared to other ADs. Maybe they should buff her Hawkshot gold bonus.

Doesn't she have a decent win rate in pro games?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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