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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
February 05 2013 00:09 GMT
#1701
On February 05 2013 08:59 plasmidghost wrote:
Excellent, it worked fine. Also, Voyman's stream is pretty good. I assume he has the record for most concurrent viewers now?


That would be Dryus as someone else said when he first joined TSM. He was above 50k at points.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
February 05 2013 00:10 GMT
#1702
I wonder how many viewers HSGG would've peaked at if he had kept streaming.
twitch.tv/cratonz
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
February 05 2013 00:12 GMT
#1703
Voyboy earned challenger qualification series, he's starting to play it soon.
日本語が分かりますか
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
February 05 2013 00:16 GMT
#1704
On February 05 2013 09:09 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 08:59 plasmidghost wrote:
Excellent, it worked fine. Also, Voyman's stream is pretty good. I assume he has the record for most concurrent viewers now?


That would be Dryus as someone else said when he first joined TSM. He was above 50k at points.


I'm faily sure I have a screenshot of dyrus at like 50.2k viewers, but i can't find it. T.T

Voyboy at 53k today is probably all time high for a single streamer though.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 00:25:34
February 05 2013 00:17 GMT
#1705
The only problem I have with Voyboy is how forced some of the stuff he says comes off. Like he seems really phony when he's commentating and talking to his team because he knows that's what brings in viewers. He plays the fame and PR game way too hard imo, sort of like Snoopeh. Though I've always been a huge voy fan because he's an animal at this game and I learned most of what I know about Lee from him. It's just something that's been irking me lately buy I know it's silly to dislike someone for being too nice, ha.

I just hope he doesn't stop playing as well competitively because he's focused on streaming and his persona.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
February 05 2013 00:20 GMT
#1706
On February 05 2013 09:10 Craton wrote:
I wonder how many viewers HSGG would've peaked at if he had kept streaming.

Probably nowhere near as high. His peak viewers happened when he was relatively good compared to everyone else in the world, but now since everyone else has surpassed him in terms of skill, his stream is much less popular (although still gets a lot viewers for his other qualities).
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
February 05 2013 00:23 GMT
#1707
He was something like 10x higher than every other streamer. I wouldn't underestimate it.
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
February 05 2013 00:25 GMT
#1708
Regardless how I feel about his stream I don't doubt hes a great player and I hope he becomes the 2nd member in the exclusive company of "Challenger Tier" with Babyzeus.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 05 2013 00:26 GMT
#1709
On February 05 2013 09:17 HazMat wrote:
The only problem I have with Voyboy is how forced some of the stuff he says comes off. Like he seems really phony when he's commentating and talking to his team because he knows that's what brings in viewers. He plays the fame and PR game way too hard imo, sort of like Snoopeh. Though I've always been a huge voy fan because he's an animal at this game and I learned most of what I know about Lee from him. It's just something that's been irking me lately buy I know it's silly to dislike someone for being too nice, ha.


idk man there was a time when he had like 1k viewers streaming really early, and he was 1v2 as khazix vs a top + support lane cuz enemy team had no jungler, i told him to just play safe but he kept trying to kill and then ended up dying, and the 2nd time he died i was like VOY JUST STOP HOLY FUCK, and any other person wouldve like raged back but when i watched the stream later he actually was saying omg im sorry i dont know what got into me, that was totally my bad, etc. I've had mad respect for him since then. And yea hes an animal. He's pretty much impossible to gank and always goes for the kill whenever he sees a sliver of opportunity.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 05 2013 00:27 GMT
#1710
On February 05 2013 09:08 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 08:52 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 05 2013 08:45 overt wrote:
So I'm gonna propose to TL that Ezreal has been pretty balanced for a long time. According to Leaguepedia statistics Ezreal has won 200 games over the course of the last year in competitive play and lost 200 games. Which puts him at a perfect 50% win rate. For shits and giggles I ran Ashe and Corki's numbers over the course of the last year. Ashe won 45 games and lost 32 in competitive play. Corki won 176 games and lost 162. Both Ashe and Corki posted better numbers in competitive play over the course of 2012 than Ezreal.

What about solo queue? As of this moment Ezreal is sitting at a 48% winrate which makes him relatively even compared to every other AD carry. In fact I think he's slightly below average at the moment but whatever.

The point being, for a long ass time Ezreal has been a safe "pretty good at everything but not the best at anything." Basically the only nerf that ever really mattered in my opinion was the nerf to his W because the AS debuff was incredibly stupid. But he's also been super popular. Because people like that champion and his design and always have (and always will). He also happens to be pretty easy and forgiving because of the way his E works and long range farming with Q (but I'd argue that someone like Trist is much better at keeping people off her than Ezreal).

My real question is whether or not Riot is nerfing him because of his popularity or because of his strength during pick/ban stage since you can first pick him with no real consequences. Does Riot just hate the idea of a safe pick or does Riot just not like the idea of a champion being so popular in a role that already has very few champions to pick from?

S3 item changes really helped Ez out. Like a lot.


Phage massively nerfed, Trinity nerfed, Bloodthister more expensive, Last Whisper nerfed, Brutalizer nerfed.

Conversely Iceborn Gauntlet is a new strong utility (but pretty weak damage) item.

I don't really see what you mean.

Crit nerf, made autoattacking ADC's much much worse. ergo flat damage stuff like his Q comparatively became stronger. Also, lower overall item costs, made midgame much stronger for Ez imo.
liftlift > tsm
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 05 2013 00:28 GMT
#1711
Plus Trinity rush was always a noob trap.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 00:33:21
February 05 2013 00:33 GMT
#1712
sooo annie + lulu best combo in the game or best combo in the game

normal roles, not duo bot
I come in for the scraps
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 05 2013 00:34 GMT
#1713
you lulu ult tibbers?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 05 2013 00:34 GMT
#1714
On February 05 2013 09:26 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 09:17 HazMat wrote:
The only problem I have with Voyboy is how forced some of the stuff he says comes off. Like he seems really phony when he's commentating and talking to his team because he knows that's what brings in viewers. He plays the fame and PR game way too hard imo, sort of like Snoopeh. Though I've always been a huge voy fan because he's an animal at this game and I learned most of what I know about Lee from him. It's just something that's been irking me lately buy I know it's silly to dislike someone for being too nice, ha.


idk man there was a time when he had like 1k viewers streaming really early, and he was 1v2 as khazix vs a top + support lane cuz enemy team had no jungler, i told him to just play safe but he kept trying to kill and then ended up dying, and the 2nd time he died i was like VOY JUST STOP HOLY FUCK, and any other person wouldve like raged back but when i watched the stream later he actually was saying omg im sorry i dont know what got into me, that was totally my bad, etc. I've had mad respect for him since then. And yea hes an animal. He's pretty much impossible to gank and always goes for the kill whenever he sees a sliver of opportunity.

Oh I know he's a genuinely nice guy. He's not fake but he markets himself super hard, I guess. But there's nothing wrong with that and it's working out for him. Dunno, just something that has been irking me lately but not a huge deal at all.

He's a man FP'ing Akali with Lee Sin and Garen up. Best part is he'll win his lane regardless.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 05 2013 00:35 GMT
#1715
I might be wrong but I find even if he doesn't win his lane he seems to get a lot done on the map. Or is he just winning the lane then owning up the map from that advantage.
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 00:47:56
February 05 2013 00:45 GMT
#1716
jaedong the man with the huge dong
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 00:46:50
February 05 2013 00:46 GMT
#1717
On February 05 2013 09:34 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 09:26 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On February 05 2013 09:17 HazMat wrote:
The only problem I have with Voyboy is how forced some of the stuff he says comes off. Like he seems really phony when he's commentating and talking to his team because he knows that's what brings in viewers. He plays the fame and PR game way too hard imo, sort of like Snoopeh. Though I've always been a huge voy fan because he's an animal at this game and I learned most of what I know about Lee from him. It's just something that's been irking me lately buy I know it's silly to dislike someone for being too nice, ha.


idk man there was a time when he had like 1k viewers streaming really early, and he was 1v2 as khazix vs a top + support lane cuz enemy team had no jungler, i told him to just play safe but he kept trying to kill and then ended up dying, and the 2nd time he died i was like VOY JUST STOP HOLY FUCK, and any other person wouldve like raged back but when i watched the stream later he actually was saying omg im sorry i dont know what got into me, that was totally my bad, etc. I've had mad respect for him since then. And yea hes an animal. He's pretty much impossible to gank and always goes for the kill whenever he sees a sliver of opportunity.

Oh I know he's a genuinely nice guy. He's not fake but he markets himself super hard, I guess. But there's nothing wrong with that and it's working out for him. Dunno, just something that has been irking me lately but not a huge deal at all.

He's a man FP'ing Akali with Lee Sin and Garen up. Best part is he'll win his lane regardless.


thats old, akali dumps on lee sin now with that new armor item and can dunk on garen as well. already seen it multiple times. akali > lee now, akali = garen
I come in for the scraps
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
February 05 2013 00:46 GMT
#1718
Voy got baited hard by the Garen and then missclicks on a minion as well.
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 00:47:38
February 05 2013 00:46 GMT
#1719
On February 05 2013 09:34 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 09:26 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On February 05 2013 09:17 HazMat wrote:
The only problem I have with Voyboy is how forced some of the stuff he says comes off. Like he seems really phony when he's commentating and talking to his team because he knows that's what brings in viewers. He plays the fame and PR game way too hard imo, sort of like Snoopeh. Though I've always been a huge voy fan because he's an animal at this game and I learned most of what I know about Lee from him. It's just something that's been irking me lately buy I know it's silly to dislike someone for being too nice, ha.


idk man there was a time when he had like 1k viewers streaming really early, and he was 1v2 as khazix vs a top + support lane cuz enemy team had no jungler, i told him to just play safe but he kept trying to kill and then ended up dying, and the 2nd time he died i was like VOY JUST STOP HOLY FUCK, and any other person wouldve like raged back but when i watched the stream later he actually was saying omg im sorry i dont know what got into me, that was totally my bad, etc. I've had mad respect for him since then. And yea hes an animal. He's pretty much impossible to gank and always goes for the kill whenever he sees a sliver of opportunity.

Oh I know he's a genuinely nice guy. He's not fake but he markets himself super hard, I guess. But there's nothing wrong with that and it's working out for him. Dunno, just something that has been irking me lately but not a huge deal at all.

He's a man FP'ing Akali with Lee Sin and Garen up. Best part is he'll win his lane regardless.

i feel you bro. voy's voice just comes off as super tryhard and hes talking in that way because people like it. its fun to watch because he shits on kids in solo queue, but i swear, the next time he says "doe"....
jaedong the man with the huge dong
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 00:54:28
February 05 2013 00:51 GMT
#1720
On February 05 2013 09:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 09:08 Alzadar wrote:
On February 05 2013 08:52 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 05 2013 08:45 overt wrote:
So I'm gonna propose to TL that Ezreal has been pretty balanced for a long time. According to Leaguepedia statistics Ezreal has won 200 games over the course of the last year in competitive play and lost 200 games. Which puts him at a perfect 50% win rate. For shits and giggles I ran Ashe and Corki's numbers over the course of the last year. Ashe won 45 games and lost 32 in competitive play. Corki won 176 games and lost 162. Both Ashe and Corki posted better numbers in competitive play over the course of 2012 than Ezreal.

What about solo queue? As of this moment Ezreal is sitting at a 48% winrate which makes him relatively even compared to every other AD carry. In fact I think he's slightly below average at the moment but whatever.

The point being, for a long ass time Ezreal has been a safe "pretty good at everything but not the best at anything." Basically the only nerf that ever really mattered in my opinion was the nerf to his W because the AS debuff was incredibly stupid. But he's also been super popular. Because people like that champion and his design and always have (and always will). He also happens to be pretty easy and forgiving because of the way his E works and long range farming with Q (but I'd argue that someone like Trist is much better at keeping people off her than Ezreal).

My real question is whether or not Riot is nerfing him because of his popularity or because of his strength during pick/ban stage since you can first pick him with no real consequences. Does Riot just hate the idea of a safe pick or does Riot just not like the idea of a champion being so popular in a role that already has very few champions to pick from?

S3 item changes really helped Ez out. Like a lot.


Phage massively nerfed, Trinity nerfed, Bloodthister more expensive, Last Whisper nerfed, Brutalizer nerfed.

Conversely Iceborn Gauntlet is a new strong utility (but pretty weak damage) item.

I don't really see what you mean.

Crit nerf, made autoattacking ADC's much much worse. ergo flat damage stuff like his Q comparatively became stronger. Also, lower overall item costs, made midgame much stronger for Ez imo.


"Crit nerf"? Phantom Dancer's crit is unchanged, IE's crit is unchanged, Cloak of Agility is more cost efficient than before, Brawler's Glove is unchanged. There's even a new, popular crit item (Statikk Shiv). I guess there's the removal of Executioner's Calling, a rather unpopular but very powerful item? The only nerf to critical items was to the Trinity Force, which hurt Ezreal more than anyone except Corki.

I'm not sure what you mean by lower overall item costs either, what items do you mean?
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