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[Patch 3.01: Season 3] General Discussion - Page 87

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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 05 2013 00:52 GMT
#1721
Anyone know the backstory behind the "you already know" quote, voy and nyjacky use all the time?
liftlift > tsm
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11723 Posts
February 05 2013 00:54 GMT
#1722
Is XJ9 always being so depressing/depressed on stream? I just turned it on for the first time and can't really stand him talking about weird stuff and how he nearly killed himself because life is boring.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 00:59:51
February 05 2013 00:58 GMT
#1723
Had a discussion with some mates about this earlyer, wonder what you all think.
If your teams AP-mid would hypothetically only pick one champ every time, with the following choice, which
would you prefer:
Ziggs, Viktor, Malzahar, Morgana.
I'll try to sort of summarize what we've had so far:

Ziggs: Lots and lots of damage, awesome poke, some global presence, good escape, blue dependant, hard to force solokills.
Viktor: Good burst, very good poke, great zoning with Gravity Field, fewer item slots.
Malzahar: Great farm, good solokilling, good AoE, can take down high HP target (pool), safe farming with MVisions, no escapes, channeled ult.
Morgana: Very safe, good control, some supporting ability, high impact ult, falls off late game, hard to pick out the right targets in teamfights.

What do you think?
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
February 05 2013 01:02 GMT
#1724
I'd take Morgana myself.

She brings the most to a team to me. That ulti is still pretty good.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 05 2013 01:02 GMT
#1725
morgana, rest are easily countered

if you got to pick last everytime, then anyone except morgana
I come in for the scraps
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 01:12:02
February 05 2013 01:03 GMT
#1726
morg, ziggs, viktor, malz in that order

On February 05 2013 09:51 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 09:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 05 2013 09:08 Alzadar wrote:
On February 05 2013 08:52 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 05 2013 08:45 overt wrote:
So I'm gonna propose to TL that Ezreal has been pretty balanced for a long time. According to Leaguepedia statistics Ezreal has won 200 games over the course of the last year in competitive play and lost 200 games. Which puts him at a perfect 50% win rate. For shits and giggles I ran Ashe and Corki's numbers over the course of the last year. Ashe won 45 games and lost 32 in competitive play. Corki won 176 games and lost 162. Both Ashe and Corki posted better numbers in competitive play over the course of 2012 than Ezreal.

What about solo queue? As of this moment Ezreal is sitting at a 48% winrate which makes him relatively even compared to every other AD carry. In fact I think he's slightly below average at the moment but whatever.

The point being, for a long ass time Ezreal has been a safe "pretty good at everything but not the best at anything." Basically the only nerf that ever really mattered in my opinion was the nerf to his W because the AS debuff was incredibly stupid. But he's also been super popular. Because people like that champion and his design and always have (and always will). He also happens to be pretty easy and forgiving because of the way his E works and long range farming with Q (but I'd argue that someone like Trist is much better at keeping people off her than Ezreal).

My real question is whether or not Riot is nerfing him because of his popularity or because of his strength during pick/ban stage since you can first pick him with no real consequences. Does Riot just hate the idea of a safe pick or does Riot just not like the idea of a champion being so popular in a role that already has very few champions to pick from?

S3 item changes really helped Ez out. Like a lot.


Phage massively nerfed, Trinity nerfed, Bloodthister more expensive, Last Whisper nerfed, Brutalizer nerfed.

Conversely Iceborn Gauntlet is a new strong utility (but pretty weak damage) item.

I don't really see what you mean.

Crit nerf, made autoattacking ADC's much much worse. ergo flat damage stuff like his Q comparatively became stronger. Also, lower overall item costs, made midgame much stronger for Ez imo.


"Crit nerf"? Phantom Dancer's crit is unchanged, IE's crit is unchanged, Cloak of Agility is more cost efficient than before, Brawler's Glove is unchanged. There's even a new, popular crit item (Statikk Shiv). I guess there's the removal of Executioner's Calling, a rather unpopular but very powerful item? The only nerf to critical items was to the Trinity Force, which hurt Ezreal more than anyone except Corki.

I'm not sure what you mean by lower overall item costs either, what items do you mean?

my guess is every item that players used that has crit got nerfed. -10 damage to iedge, attackspeed+movespeed nerfed hard on pd, green pot removed COMPLETELY. less attacks = less crits. Green pot removal is a huge part of that tbh... still overall ad carrys don't really carry as hard anymore :l
BW -> League -> CSGO
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
February 05 2013 01:03 GMT
#1727
Haha that TF ult from link wtf :D from bot inner tower to the brush next to it, IM HIDING GUYS SSSHHHHH
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 05 2013 01:08 GMT
#1728
On February 05 2013 10:03 daemir wrote:
Haha that TF ult from link wtf :D from bot inner tower to the brush next to it, IM HIDING GUYS SSSHHHHH

He's just trolling :/
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
February 05 2013 01:12 GMT
#1729
On February 05 2013 10:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
morgana, rest are easily countered

if you got to pick last everytime, then anyone except morgana


Hmm yeah we didnt particularly take counter-picks in account, so I guess it'd be a lastpick or at least something non-hard countered ^^
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 01:16:59
February 05 2013 01:14 GMT
#1730
XJ9's stream really highlights why computer addiction is bad and unhealthy for you. To summarize the things he's saying/said.

I want to commit suicide.
Life is boring.
I know more than most people in life(High school delusion)
After I started playing league, I have no friends
The person i trust most in life lied to me. I want to die, I feel really shitty.
Life is about getting a bigger ego
I don't care about being popular.(Guess he's not popular at school)
I'm in an internet relationship with a girl i've never seen before
I want to live life loving someone
I only care in life is my internet girlfriend
I do so much for my internet girlfriend, and I feel really underappreciated
I don't want a job, I make money streaming, but I don't stream for money
I've gone through so so much, much more than any1. I've gone through so much bs on facebook, reddit, and lol.
I don't like my family, I don't like people, I don't like talking to people, I only like my gf, and love. My online gf I've never seen before.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 05 2013 01:16 GMT
#1731
That doesn't really sound like addiction. That just sounds like a high school kid.
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 01:21:59
February 05 2013 01:19 GMT
#1732
On February 05 2013 10:16 Numy wrote:
That doesn't really sound like addiction. That just sounds like a high school kid.


It sounds like a high school kid with a lol addiction. Most kids that I see who are on the computer a lot have similar symptoms. I don't think these kinds of things are a good thing. One's youth is short, youth should be used to enjoy life, and be happy.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
February 05 2013 01:19 GMT
#1733
Yeah I'm tuned into XJ9's stream also and it's quite sad to listen to. Very typical thoughts for someone in high school, but still don't like to see people go through it and feel it's their own unique hell.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 01:26:08
February 05 2013 01:24 GMT
#1734
Guy has a bad day better dogpile and pull out the psychology major analysis's.. I am sure you have a reason to care and it's nice that you do but really don't need to go into what you think is wrong with the kid. It's creepy.

Unrelated, Annie get completely new lines? It sounds familiar but I can't in it down in my head on who it is.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14092 Posts
February 05 2013 01:26 GMT
#1735
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/02/24-pbe-update-2.html#more

Very interesting item changes. Ohmwrecker building out of a philo stone makes it a lot more attractive. Not sure if its worth building but its something now.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 01:34:28
February 05 2013 01:29 GMT
#1736
On February 05 2013 10:19 ProV1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 10:16 Numy wrote:
That doesn't really sound like addiction. That just sounds like a high school kid.


It sounds like a high school kid with a lol addiction. Most kids that I see who are on the computer a lot have similar symptoms. I don't think these kinds of things are a good thing. One's youth is short, youth should be used to enjoy life, and be happy.

Or maybe it's not because he plays LoL that he's depressed but because he's depressed that he spends so much time on LoL.


Annie got a new VO for her old lines, and some new mixed in.

And I confirm that for some reason I can't see Shaco's Q smoke in the FoG. This patch gonna be hell if it's widespread...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6221 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 01:39:16
February 05 2013 01:38 GMT
#1737
I'm wondering why they're choosing to nerf CDR on so many items. Anything that's 15% is going down to 10% pretty much O__O


Edit:: 20% CD reduction on smite on the spectral wraith spirit stone? Wow....
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 01:39:33
February 05 2013 01:39 GMT
#1738
Frozen Heart
Total cost reduced to 2950 from 3000
Armor increased to 95 from 90.

So random....
(although probably because of the glacial change)
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11723 Posts
February 05 2013 01:42 GMT
#1739
On February 05 2013 10:38 Lmui wrote:
I'm wondering why they're choosing to nerf CDR on so many items. Anything that's 15% is going down to 10% pretty much O__O


Edit:: 20% CD reduction on smite on the spectral wraith spirit stone? Wow....


Is pretty much irrelevant. At the point where you got that stone you will probably not smite random camps anymore anyways, so it is only useful in those rare cases where a buff and a dragon fight are only 30-40 seconds from each other.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 01:47:45
February 05 2013 01:46 GMT
#1740
On February 05 2013 10:42 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 10:38 Lmui wrote:
I'm wondering why they're choosing to nerf CDR on so many items. Anything that's 15% is going down to 10% pretty much O__O


Edit:: 20% CD reduction on smite on the spectral wraith spirit stone? Wow....


Is pretty much irrelevant. At the point where you got that stone you will probably not smite random camps anymore anyways, so it is only useful in those rare cases where a buff and a dragon fight are only 30-40 seconds from each other.

I took it more as a slightly better self-heal.
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