[Patch 3.01: Season 3] General Discussion - Page 85

On February 05 2013 07:50 Parnage wrote:


Eh how bad could it be *reads*

Eh could be worse, and then as I read further and further into comments I feel myself wanting to hulk smash a bus. by page four I realized I was going to have to stop to deal with the sudden headache. Damnations..

On February 05 2013 08:16 Zooper31 wrote:


Or is just really funny, like Aphro.

On February 05 2013 08:18 Amarok wrote:


DotA vs LoL vs SC2 discussions are some of the most terrible discussions on the internet. They have the potential to be very interesting, but the amount of bias fueled hate and elitism that gets dredged up is sickening and yes it's nearly exclusively from the SC2/DotA side of the debate. That thread was actually better than average.

On February 05 2013 08:13 beefhamburger wrote:
And by flair I meant some kind of personality thats shown, something special he brings to the table, like Scarra, Froggen, or any of the TSM members.

Idk he just seems monotone to me, not as bad as Dyrus, and he explains things boringly, not as good as Scarra.
From what I've seen of Froggen's stream, he pretty much never talks, at least not in the past few months. Voy does commentate well, and I agree not as enthusiastic or energetic as scarra, but his play is much flashier (and effective) than most streamers which is what a lot of viewers like. I see Voy as a mix between scarra and Froggen in terms of commentating and flashy skill. And he's also super nice.

On February 05 2013 08:45 overt wrote:
So I'm gonna propose to TL that Ezreal has been pretty balanced for a long time. According to Leaguepedia statistics Ezreal has won 200 games over the course of the last year in competitive play and lost 200 games. Which puts him at a perfect 50% win rate. For shits and giggles I ran Ashe and Corki's numbers over the course of the last year. Ashe won 45 games and lost 32 in competitive play. Corki won 176 games and lost 162. Both Ashe and Corki posted better numbers in competitive play over the course of 2012 than Ezreal.

What about solo queue? As of this moment Ezreal is sitting at a 48% winrate which makes him relatively even compared to every other AD carry. In fact I think he's slightly below average at the moment but whatever.

The point being, for a long ass time Ezreal has been a safe "pretty good at everything but not the best at anything." Basically the only nerf that ever really mattered in my opinion was the nerf to his W because the AS debuff was incredibly stupid. But he's also been super popular. Because people like that champion and his design and always have (and always will). He also happens to be pretty easy and forgiving because of the way his E works and long range farming with Q (but I'd argue that someone like Trist is much better at keeping people off her than Ezreal).

My real question is whether or not Riot is nerfing him because of his popularity or because of his strength during pick/ban stage since you can first pick him with no real consequences. Does Riot just hate the idea of a safe pick or does Riot just not like the idea of a champion being so popular in a role that already has very few champions to pick from?

On February 05 2013 08:20 Numy wrote:


It's from all sides. Saying otherwise is kind of hypocritical. People just don't want to invest time to learn about the games to have a real discussion and even if they do they aren't entering with an open mind. They enter the discussion in order to convince everyone else they right instead of entering it to find the truth.

On February 05 2013 08:51 wei2coolman wrote:
I think we've been saying this for a while. He's been balanced ever since the W nerf (removing AS component) Ez is just a bullshit champion though, having a refreshing flash every few seconds (if you're hitting your q), is extremely frustrating, no matter how balanced he is. Riot's just nerfing him out of popularity imo. The problem is that comps have shifted from less ADC focused team comps, and more into teamfight comps (the increase MF playtime is proof of this) (i think this problem exacerbated by the fact ADC's are significantly weaker than their early s2 counterpart), so it's better to have a mobile ADC that can kite for himself, or an ADC that can bring tremendous teamfight ability (MF).

On February 05 2013 08:53 Amarok wrote:
I agree with the comment about investing time to learn about the game. I once had an argument with someone who said what he didn't like about LoL was that all champs had passive abilities as ultimates. I wondered what the hell he was talking about before I realised that the LoL website lists champ passives as the final ability. He actually hadn't played, or likely watched a single game of LoL, but he talked like an expert on the differences between DotA and LoL.

On February 05 2013 08:52 Two_DoWn wrote:

S3 item changes really helped Ez out. Like a lot.