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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 04 2013 21:48 GMT
#1641
Wow, just bought Vi

The rapetrain has no brakes. WTF she is so strong.

she has like everything, mobility, massive damage, AOE, super gank ult, absurd clear speed. Fun too.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 04 2013 21:49 GMT
#1642
On February 05 2013 06:41 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 06:26 Seuss wrote:
On February 05 2013 06:21 Two_DoWn wrote:
Ideally, you only want to max Q to the point where you can last hit everything you would be able to get anyway with Q.

Or, in simple english: just put enough points in Q so that you can get the CD low enough to last hit shit with it. I dont know how many points it would take to be able to effectively use it in the jungle, but there is a good chance you may only need level 2-3 Q in order to max out your ability to farm with it.


With just one rank in Q you're basically guaranteed two creeps at every camp. One at the very start (auto a week creep, follow up with Q), and then the big one at the end. That gets you 9 damage on Q per camp, or 27 per clear, which amounts to 75% of what you'd get for Qing every last creep.

So if you're concerned about mid-game utility you can still get a crapton of Q stacks without maxing it first. Just don't mess up your Qs.

Also granted, that's probably more than you'd get in lane if the enemy laner zones you out early on or the jungler comes to shut you down. I'm all for it.


Back when I played nasus(this was like 1300 elo so take it with a grain of salt), I usually got only 3-4 Q farm per minute in most lanes until like 10-15 minutes. If you could jungle and pick up ~4-5 farm per minute that'd be really, really good because nasus can build pure tank out of the jungle and still do good damage in fights.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
February 04 2013 21:49 GMT
#1643
I am also a fan of voyboy. He admits mistakes, is a nice guy, doesn't blame team mates, commentate a lot and is incredibly gud and makes big plays.
Retvrn to Forvms
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
February 04 2013 21:51 GMT
#1644
Dafuq is with EUW again? 1h30 mins queue at close to 23:00? Seriously riot?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 04 2013 21:51 GMT
#1645
On February 05 2013 06:48 sob3k wrote:
Wow, just bought Vi

The rapetrain has no brakes. WTF she is so strong.

she has like everything, mobility, massive damage, AOE, super gank ult, absurd clear speed. Fun too.

How do? I felt like I did nothing when I played her T_T
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 04 2013 21:52 GMT
#1646
How/where did you play her?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 04 2013 21:53 GMT
#1647
On February 05 2013 06:49 Chrispy wrote:
I am also a fan of voyboy. He admits mistakes, is a nice guy, doesn't blame team mates, commentate a lot and is incredibly gud and makes big plays.


He's also the only person I know that looks cute with a beard not manly. Think he looks manlier without the beard rofl.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 21:59:30
February 04 2013 21:57 GMT
#1648
On February 05 2013 06:53 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 06:49 Chrispy wrote:
I am also a fan of voyboy. He admits mistakes, is a nice guy, doesn't blame team mates, commentate a lot and is incredibly gud and makes big plays.


He's also the only person I know that looks cute with a beard not manly. Think he looks manlier without the beard rofl.

The crazy part is he was able to have such an full beard at 17. I remember in an AMA or something he said it had something to do with his ethnicity. I couldn't grown a beard anywhere close even if I tried.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 22:04:33
February 04 2013 22:00 GMT
#1649
On February 05 2013 06:49 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 06:41 Requizen wrote:
On February 05 2013 06:26 Seuss wrote:
On February 05 2013 06:21 Two_DoWn wrote:
Ideally, you only want to max Q to the point where you can last hit everything you would be able to get anyway with Q.

Or, in simple english: just put enough points in Q so that you can get the CD low enough to last hit shit with it. I dont know how many points it would take to be able to effectively use it in the jungle, but there is a good chance you may only need level 2-3 Q in order to max out your ability to farm with it.


With just one rank in Q you're basically guaranteed two creeps at every camp. One at the very start (auto a week creep, follow up with Q), and then the big one at the end. That gets you 9 damage on Q per camp, or 27 per clear, which amounts to 75% of what you'd get for Qing every last creep.

So if you're concerned about mid-game utility you can still get a crapton of Q stacks without maxing it first. Just don't mess up your Qs.

Also granted, that's probably more than you'd get in lane if the enemy laner zones you out early on or the jungler comes to shut you down. I'm all for it.


Back when I played nasus(this was like 1300 elo so take it with a grain of salt), I usually got only 3-4 Q farm per minute in most lanes until like 10-15 minutes. If you could jungle and pick up ~4-5 farm per minute that'd be really, really good because nasus can build pure tank out of the jungle and still do good damage in fights.


If I'm right you're actually looking at 8-9 farm per minute (24-27 Q damage), so close to double what you're used to getting while laning.

I really need to test this when I get home tonight.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 04 2013 22:01 GMT
#1650
euwest has the 2 hour queue back, this escelated quickly.

i mean, there were signs of it for months now with growing queue times on weekends, but back to those queues this fast...
I dont even understand it, the whole american continent has like 1 server and we have 3 in EU and it still doesnt work.
GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
February 04 2013 22:05 GMT
#1651
If they keep fucking with the servers so badly we might get free RP.

I wanna believe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8QLNiolfk - Racing with the sun
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
February 04 2013 22:07 GMT
#1652
Voyboy at 50k viewers. Wow. Does anyone know the highest viewer count for non-tournament streams? I can't imagine pulling in so many people just for soloQ games (although Voy is really entertaining).
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
February 04 2013 22:09 GMT
#1653
On February 05 2013 06:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 06:53 Numy wrote:
On February 05 2013 06:49 Chrispy wrote:
I am also a fan of voyboy. He admits mistakes, is a nice guy, doesn't blame team mates, commentate a lot and is incredibly gud and makes big plays.


He's also the only person I know that looks cute with a beard not manly. Think he looks manlier without the beard rofl.

The crazy part is he was able to have such an full beard at 17. I remember in an AMA or something he said it had something to do with his ethnicity. I couldn't grown a beard anywhere close even if I tried.


Persian men love their beards
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 04 2013 22:11 GMT
#1654
On February 05 2013 05:19 Cloud9157 wrote:
I've never understood why you would pick Nasus when Irelia+Jax exist. They both just jump on your carry every 5 seconds, and both have some form of immunity/resistance(Jax dodge+Irelia cc reducton). You can't kite Irelia, because she just shrugs off almost every slow in the game, and Jax just jumps all over the place.

inb4 ulate


Because irelia and jax dive carries while Nasus has huge utility and plays a completely different role in teamfights?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 04 2013 22:13 GMT
#1655
On February 05 2013 07:11 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 05:19 Cloud9157 wrote:
I've never understood why you would pick Nasus when Irelia+Jax exist. They both just jump on your carry every 5 seconds, and both have some form of immunity/resistance(Jax dodge+Irelia cc reducton). You can't kite Irelia, because she just shrugs off almost every slow in the game, and Jax just jumps all over the place.

inb4 ulate


Because irelia and jax dive carries while Nasus has huge utility and plays a completely different role in teamfights?

And here we have the main problem with people's perception of Nasus.

The general public doesnt know how to play him, tries to put him in a role he sucks at, and are surprised when he doesnt do well.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
komokun
Profile Joined July 2011
France343 Posts
February 04 2013 22:14 GMT
#1656
On February 05 2013 07:07 TheSinisterRed wrote:
Voyboy at 50k viewers. Wow. Does anyone know the highest viewer count for non-tournament streams? I can't imagine pulling in so many people just for soloQ games (although Voy is really entertaining).


He got 20k more viewers since EUW has been down/having problems
I'm one of them :D
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
February 04 2013 22:15 GMT
#1657
Nasus could just cast wither on their carry and Q through their bruisers. Let someone like jax/irelia jump on their withered carry while you try to peel.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
February 04 2013 22:17 GMT
#1658
On February 05 2013 07:13 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 07:11 Slayer91 wrote:
On February 05 2013 05:19 Cloud9157 wrote:
I've never understood why you would pick Nasus when Irelia+Jax exist. They both just jump on your carry every 5 seconds, and both have some form of immunity/resistance(Jax dodge+Irelia cc reducton). You can't kite Irelia, because she just shrugs off almost every slow in the game, and Jax just jumps all over the place.

inb4 ulate


Because irelia and jax dive carries while Nasus has huge utility and plays a completely different role in teamfights?

And here we have the main problem with people's perception of Nasus.

The general public doesnt know how to play him, tries to put him in a role he sucks at, and are surprised when he doesnt do well.

tbh tho, his kit is such that, if he had just a little bit more mobility, then he would be exactly like the carry-jumping style of bruiser that is typically played top lane (eg, xin, irelia, jax). I don't really blame most ppl for not getting it. Imagine replacing his e or w with some kind of jump or +ms spell. It also doesn't help that he has, quite possibly, the most unique playstyle of all of the pokemon.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 04 2013 22:19 GMT
#1659
On February 05 2013 07:17 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 07:13 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 05 2013 07:11 Slayer91 wrote:
On February 05 2013 05:19 Cloud9157 wrote:
I've never understood why you would pick Nasus when Irelia+Jax exist. They both just jump on your carry every 5 seconds, and both have some form of immunity/resistance(Jax dodge+Irelia cc reducton). You can't kite Irelia, because she just shrugs off almost every slow in the game, and Jax just jumps all over the place.

inb4 ulate


Because irelia and jax dive carries while Nasus has huge utility and plays a completely different role in teamfights?

And here we have the main problem with people's perception of Nasus.

The general public doesnt know how to play him, tries to put him in a role he sucks at, and are surprised when he doesnt do well.

tbh tho, his kit is such that, if he had just a little bit more mobility, then he would be exactly like the carry-jumping style of bruiser that is typically played top lane (eg, xin, irelia, jax). I don't really blame most ppl for not getting it. Imagine replacing his e or w with some kind of jump or +ms spell. It also doesn't help that he has, quite possibly, the most unique playstyle of all of the pokemon.

I blame them. T_D does not give half credit when it comes to using your brain.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 04 2013 22:22 GMT
#1660
On February 05 2013 07:13 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 07:11 Slayer91 wrote:
On February 05 2013 05:19 Cloud9157 wrote:
I've never understood why you would pick Nasus when Irelia+Jax exist. They both just jump on your carry every 5 seconds, and both have some form of immunity/resistance(Jax dodge+Irelia cc reducton). You can't kite Irelia, because she just shrugs off almost every slow in the game, and Jax just jumps all over the place.

inb4 ulate


Because irelia and jax dive carries while Nasus has huge utility and plays a completely different role in teamfights?

And here we have the main problem with people's perception of Nasus.

The general public doesnt know how to play him, tries to put him in a role he sucks at, and are surprised when he doesnt do well.

Well, not only playing him in that role, but also your teammates reactions. If you do Wither the carry and then go to Q the bruiser that's sitting on your own ADC (which is pretty good, since you can chunk them down and allow your Cait or whatever to escape), everyone in solo queue will yell at you like hell for not focusing the carry. Yolo queue indeed.
It's your boy Guzma!
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