EPT[Patch 3.01: Season 3] General Discussion - Page 81
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On February 05 2013 05:31 GregMandel wrote: Ezreal might be nerfed, but he's still the anti-mage of LoL when it comes down to mobility, whereas if I play draven I will not have a flash on a 20s CD to position myself better in teamfights. The choice is do I want a better teamfighting champ or a champ to stomp my lane really hard and end lane phase quickly while their adc is burried at 0/5/0 and 30cs behind. Cause honestly, when I play duo q we always go for all-in lanes like taric graves or leona graves, and I want to play some ADC too, and my duo q partner only really plays taric as a support so I need an aggresive ADC, draven being quite retarded during early game makes him my favorite with blue buff it's actually more like 5 seconds as long as he's hitting his q's lol. | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On February 05 2013 05:49 GregMandel wrote: Also I have been facing a great problem recently : The lack of good bot lane streamers. I mean, I kinda like RobertxLee, but other than him I never see some great ADC/Supp streaming I live in GMT +1 tho, so that might explain a bit, but still, it really feels like half the streams are Top laners ( Hsgg, Voyman, Rain man, dyrus, wickd are the big ones ) and then there are mid laners ( scarra, Plord, salce, bjergsen, froggen ) Is it just my lack of streamers knowledge or is it really a problem ? Spellsy is a good support player and he posts here. Doesn't usually have many viewers but worth checking out imo. And for ADCs Rekkles is pretty good. | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On February 05 2013 05:39 Bladeorade wrote: Monte what's this nasus q critical thing you guys are discussing? Intentional? Or a bug? Nasus was one of my first champs id like to revisit him Revisit him now, before they fix it! He's so much fun to play :D On another note, the more I think about the whole placement matches thing, the more I'm convinced it's actually just meant to be a system that feels more fair than the previous advancement non-system. Before, when you were at 1499 Elo or something, your next game was *really* important-- it was pretty much make or break for gold. Now when you're up for advancement, you've got a bo3 to prove you've got what it takes instead of having it all ride on that one game. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Serendipityx
United States595 Posts
On February 05 2013 06:07 Eiii wrote: Revisit him now, before they fix it! He's so much fun to play :D On another note, the more I think about the whole placement matches thing, the more I'm convinced it's actually just meant to be a system that feels more fair than the previous advancement non-system. Before, when you were at 1499 Elo or something, your next game was *really* important-- it was pretty much make or break for gold. Now when you're up for advancement, you've got a bo3 to prove you've got what it takes instead of having it all ride on that one game. Yea but if you go 3-2 when you're at 1490 elo you're going to hit 1500 elo anyways. Also I don't think I've ever seen a streamer get 46k viewers before. I thought the 20-30k oddone has gotten was ridiculous enough. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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GregMandel
France822 Posts
On February 05 2013 06:07 onlywonderboy wrote: Spellsy is a good support player and he posts here. Doesn't usually have many viewers but worth checking out imo. And for ADCs Rekkles is pretty good. Wil check out because support and because TL  Forgot about Rekkles too, ty :D I love how there is a secret hidden LoL community with actually decent players, great theorycrafters ( Yango = statsman bruno of TL LoL ), famous peeps on reddit ( shakedrizzleeee ), you guys have like a ton of potential. Also I wanted to say that NeoIllusions work is really great and much appreciated, really deserves more props | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On February 05 2013 06:11 ChaosTriggeR wrote: Yea but if you go 3-2 when you're at 1490 elo you're going to hit 1500 elo anyways. Also I don't think I've ever seen a streamer get 46k viewers before. I thought the 20-30k oddone has gotten was ridiculous enough. So? Losing that first game still feels really shitty. Like I said, this is just meant to make the system feel more fair. Also, it lets them make arbitrary changes to the rating system they use behind-the-scenes without messing with people's ratings. That means we might get something better than Elo for MRR-- especially since Valve has said that Elo/Trueskill isn't a good enough rating system for mobas! :D | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On February 05 2013 05:39 WaveofShadow wrote: Except his jungle clear is insanely slow if you're trying to max Q to farm the next small wolf for 3 damage (if you're maxing E). If you max Q for faster stacking then your ganking suffers as does your general clearing speed. Maxing E first made sense back in S2 when AoE clearing was absolute, but today the small creeps are practically bumps in the road. I don't want to make definitive statements as I've yet to have an opportunity to test jungle Nasus, but my suspicion is that there isn't a significant speed difference between maxing Q or E. Regarding ganks I again don't want to make definitive statements, but you still get half the Armor reduction with only 1 rank in E. I don't think having a stronger, better stacked Q is a bad thing while ganking unless you never catch your opponents (in which case they're not likely to have been stuck in your E very long either). On February 05 2013 05:39 Bladeorade wrote: Monte what's this nasus q critical thing you guys are discussing? Intentional? Or a bug? Nasus was one of my first champs id like to revisit him Q's bonus damage, including damage from stacking, now crits. So if you have rank 5 Q you get (AD + 110 + 3*Stacks) * 2 damage on a crit, rather than (AD*2) + 110 + 3*Stacks. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On February 05 2013 05:39 WaveofShadow wrote: Except his jungle clear is insanely slow if you're trying to max Q to farm the next small wolf for 3 damage (if you're maxing E). If you max Q for faster stacking then your ganking suffers as does your general clearing speed. So does that make him the closest we've seen to a "no gank carry" jungler? Would be pretty hilarious to not see Nasus for like 30 minutes and then he comes barreling out of the jungle 1 shotting people. Kidding aside, I don't know if low clear speed is as detrimental as we're making it out to be. I want to fiddle around (or let others fiddle for me) with clearing routes and skill orders to make it less of an issue. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On February 05 2013 06:08 Dusty wrote: voyboy pulling in 50k viewers wat People watch what others are watching - it has always been the case. | ||
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misirlou
Portugal3304 Posts
On February 05 2013 06:07 onlywonderboy wrote: Spellsy is a good support player and he posts here. Doesn't usually have many viewers but worth checking out imo. And for ADCs Rekkles is pretty good. krepo also streams at CET times and he's very likable | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 05 2013 05:58 Chrispy wrote: Oh wow did not know that Challenger tier had a maximum amount of players. That's awesome. Disregard my previous post then. No qualms about new system! It just better allow for a lot of movement. You should swap down the INSTANT your MMR drops below the highest diamond person. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On February 05 2013 06:13 Seuss wrote: Maxing E first made sense back in S2 when AoE clearing was absolute, but today the small creeps are practically bumps in the road. I don't want to make definitive statements as I've yet to have an opportunity to test jungle Nasus, but my suspicion is that there isn't a significant speed difference between maxing Q or E. Regarding ganks I again don't want to make definitive statements, but you still get half the Armor reduction with only 1 rank in E. I don't think having a stronger, better stacked Q is a bad thing while ganking unless you never catch your opponents (in which case they're not likely to have been stuck in your E very long either). Q's bonus damage, including damage from stacking, now crits. So if you have rank 5 Q you get (AD + 110 + 3*Stacks) * 2 damage on a crit, rather than (AD*2) + 110 + 3*Stacks. Fruitmarket and me talked about this the other day. He still argues for e max, but now with all the small creeps being so weak you can put just 2-3 points in e and end up clearing nearly just as fast yet end up getting more q stacks. Granted, you're trading more armor shred for more q stacks come midgame. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Or, in simple english: just put enough points in Q so that you can get the CD low enough to last hit shit with it. I dont know how many points it would take to be able to effectively use it in the jungle, but there is a good chance you may only need level 2-3 Q in order to max out your ability to farm with it. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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