Really? this LP thing isn't like the return of hitting them in the elo?
And this is getting ridiculous, less than half of all games on LoL must be firing right now.
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							TheLink
							
							
						 
						
						Australia2725 Posts
						 
					On February 01 2013 10:47 UniversalSnip wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 10:42 TheLink wrote: Feels like everyones getting in their last dodges before the penalty comes back. Been in queue nearly 40 mins now. the penalty is a fake. Really? this LP thing isn't like the return of hitting them in the elo? And this is getting ridiculous, less than half of all games on LoL must be firing right now.  | ||
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						France45622 Posts
						 
					I wonder why they put "EUNE" rather than "EU" in the URL.  | ||
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							LaNague
							
							
						 
						
						Germany9118 Posts
						 
					i wonder if difference between league devision and MMR will have any effect on the leaguepoints won and lost or if a 2k MMR guy gains the same per win/loss in bronze league as a 1k MMR. Also, what does the matchmaking change mean, i dont get it. also Fixed a bug where spells were applying more reduction than intended guess thats the missfortune nerf?  | ||
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							UniversalSnip
							
							
						 
						
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					On February 01 2013 10:51 TheLink wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 10:47 UniversalSnip wrote: On February 01 2013 10:42 TheLink wrote: Feels like everyones getting in their last dodges before the penalty comes back. Been in queue nearly 40 mins now. the penalty is a fake. Really? this LP thing isn't like the return of hitting them in the elo? No, not at all. You lose LP, but if your elo is higher than your LP, the system gives you more LP when you win, and if it's lower, it gives you less. So basically your league rating will get sucked onto your hidden elo like a magnet. If you lose LP for dodging, it won't affect your visible league rating at all, over time. I've never been in the habit of dodging, but as far as I'm concerned, if it seems like I want to the penalty just went down, perhaps substantially.  | ||
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							nojitosunrise
							
							
						 
						
						United States6188 Posts
						 
					http://euw.lolesports.com/ http://eune.lolesports.com/  | ||
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							Djagulingu
							
							
						 
						
						Germany3605 Posts
						 
					On February 01 2013 10:40 Terranasaur wrote: AP Yi still viable? Meditate will only heal 100% of your health instead of 200% or some shit, so yes. No nerfs to the alpha strike. Guess Alex Ich needs to take a few more pentakills with it so that Riot nerfs it to where it deserves to be.  | ||
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							MooMooMugi
							
							
						 
						
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							WaveofShadow
							
							
						 
						
						Canada31495 Posts
						 
					On February 01 2013 11:14 nojitosunrise wrote: http://na.lolesports.com/ http://euw.lolesports.com/ http://eune.lolesports.com/ This is pretty impressive imo. For additional content from the community sites that contributed to lolesports.com, take a look at ggchronicle.com, teamliquid.net and in2lol.com. WAT. Also link to teamliquid.net and not http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=51 All the people who click on that link and see SC2 and DotA on the front page and no idea where to find LoL.  | ||
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							thenexusp
							
							
						 
						
						United States3721 Posts
						 
					On February 01 2013 10:59 UniversalSnip wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 10:51 TheLink wrote: On February 01 2013 10:47 UniversalSnip wrote: On February 01 2013 10:42 TheLink wrote: Feels like everyones getting in their last dodges before the penalty comes back. Been in queue nearly 40 mins now. the penalty is a fake. Really? this LP thing isn't like the return of hitting them in the elo? No, not at all. You lose LP, but if your elo is higher than your LP, the system gives you more LP when you win, and if it's lower, it gives you less. So basically your league rating will get sucked onto your hidden elo like a magnet. If you lose LP for dodging, it won't affect your visible league rating at all, over time. I've never been in the habit of dodging, but as far as I'm concerned, if it seems like I want to the penalty just went down, perhaps substantially. Yeah there's no real penalty to dodging, but given how few people seem to understand how the system works, this penalty just might work. Although if you're on a promotion series, doesn't dodging automatically lose the whole series for you? That's a pretty big penalty right there. EDIT: actually, it might be a pretty good penalty. If you dodge once or twice, your LP will quickly get back to where it should be, but if you habitually dodge like 1/3 of all your games your LP could end up in a steady state that's much lower than the LP you would have if you didn't dodge at all.  | ||
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							Ketara
							
							
						 
						
						United States15065 Posts
						 
					On February 01 2013 10:25 Alaric wrote: 0K Ketara, I can totally see how our differing playstyles and champs make us hold different priorities toward Zhonya's. x) Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 10:14 NeoIllusions wrote: I don't get the complaints about Seekers. LiNk thinks that item is going to be popular as fk and I concur. TL;DR: 1. Before, you had trade-offs, crutches/corner-cutting and this kind of decisions involved in starting items and build paths to survive an AD vs AP lane (cloth then sell, lose 90 to survive lane? Get Tabi instead of sorcs? Rush chainvest? Be a man and forego armour entirely?). In a sense there was depth to it, and it involved playstyle. Riot saying "super cheap cloth is always interesting now and expensive chain vest a lot less" takes away a lot of this. 2. On top of that, they did it because players complained about "having to start cloth+5 and waste gold on cloth". Basically it's lowering the skill level because of a tantrum on GD. 3. In the case where you built Zhonya early on, Seeker's is actually worse than chain vest timing-wise, you could have more armour earlier with a chain vest, and retain the better slot-efficiency till Seeker's is mostly stacked. For example against a bruta rush, you'll have to rush Seeker's or you'll have less armour than a chain vest by the time they finish it (sorcs+chainvest is roughly the price of boots+bruta, say). See, I try to make shorter. ![]() More on Armguard: It also allows you, if you're facing a 100% AD team, to get Zhonyas and Armguard and feel good about it. As is vs. those teams I'd get Zhonyas and a second Chainvest, and not upgrade the thing till 6th item and maybe make Thornmail or some other thing. Not that Thornmail is BAD, but every item has to have AP on it. Duh. I think Armguard and the changes to Fiendish Codex are going to make the mid-game AP item changes much more interchangeable and organic. There'll be options to have a bunch of mid game items like a Fiendish Codex, Seekers Armguard, Haunting Guise and a Chalice in whatever order, with no major item.  | ||
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							Louuster
							
							
						 
						
						Canada2869 Posts
						 
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							NeoIllusions
							
							
						 
						
						United States37500 Posts
						 
					On February 01 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 11:14 nojitosunrise wrote: http://na.lolesports.com/ http://euw.lolesports.com/ http://eune.lolesports.com/ This is pretty impressive imo. Show nested quote + For additional content from the community sites that contributed to lolesports.com, take a look at ggchronicle.com, teamliquid.net and in2lol.com. WAT. Also link to teamliquid.net and not http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=51 All the people who click on that link and see SC2 and DotA on the front page and no idea where to find LoL. Working on getting this fixed.  | ||
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						China26351 Posts
						 
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							NeoIllusions
							
							
						 
						
						United States37500 Posts
						 
					On February 01 2013 11:40 zulu_nation8 wrote: ADs will never have to expand their champion pool as there are really no ad vs ad counters Urgot  | ||
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						China26351 Posts
						 
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							Zooper31
							
							
						 
						
						United States5711 Posts
						 
					On February 01 2013 11:21 MooMooMugi wrote: Prob going to be placed into Gold 1 or 2 and will have to claw my way out >< Feel your pain. Highest elo this season is 1663, but now I've tanked to 1470 atm and ranked is down so I can't raise it back up. Hopefully it takes a happy middle ground between those 2 numbers. I'd be happy if so.  | ||
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							nojitosunrise
							
							
						 
						
						United States6188 Posts
						 
					holy shit  | ||
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							Cloud9157
							
							
						 
						
						United States2968 Posts
						 
					6 Warmogs in my last game. When carries are building warmogs, you know something is going wrong.  | ||
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							Ketara
							
							
						 
						
						United States15065 Posts
						 
					I think the coming patch will halpu.  | ||
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							Amui
							
							
						 
						
						Canada10567 Posts
						 
					EDIT: Hard randomed Yi jungle, could be worse I guess.  | ||
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