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TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
February 01 2013 01:51 GMT
#61
On February 01 2013 10:47 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 10:42 TheLink wrote:
Feels like everyones getting in their last dodges before the penalty comes back. Been in queue nearly 40 mins now.


the penalty is a fake.


Really? this LP thing isn't like the return of hitting them in the elo?

And this is getting ridiculous, less than half of all games on LoL must be firing right now.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 01 2013 01:54 GMT
#62
Aw, I'll be unable to see the first EU one. I hope they'll do rebroadcast.
I wonder why they put "EUNE" rather than "EU" in the URL.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 01 2013 01:54 GMT
#63
heh, leaguepoints have nothing to do with the MMR, so the dodge penalty is basically nonexistant.

i wonder if difference between league devision and MMR will have any effect on the leaguepoints won and lost or if a 2k MMR guy gains the same per win/loss in bronze league as a 1k MMR.
Also, what does the matchmaking change mean, i dont get it.


also
Fixed a bug where spells were applying more reduction than intended
guess thats the missfortune nerf?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 02:01:04
February 01 2013 01:59 GMT
#64
On February 01 2013 10:51 TheLink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 10:47 UniversalSnip wrote:
On February 01 2013 10:42 TheLink wrote:
Feels like everyones getting in their last dodges before the penalty comes back. Been in queue nearly 40 mins now.


the penalty is a fake.


Really? this LP thing isn't like the return of hitting them in the elo?


No, not at all. You lose LP, but if your elo is higher than your LP, the system gives you more LP when you win, and if it's lower, it gives you less. So basically your league rating will get sucked onto your hidden elo like a magnet. If you lose LP for dodging, it won't affect your visible league rating at all, over time.

I've never been in the habit of dodging, but as far as I'm concerned, if it seems like I want to the penalty just went down, perhaps substantially.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
February 01 2013 02:14 GMT
#65
http://na.lolesports.com/

http://euw.lolesports.com/

http://eune.lolesports.com/
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 02:20:57
February 01 2013 02:20 GMT
#66
On February 01 2013 10:40 Terranasaur wrote:
AP Yi still viable?

Meditate will only heal 100% of your health instead of 200% or some shit, so yes. No nerfs to the alpha strike. Guess Alex Ich needs to take a few more pentakills with it so that Riot nerfs it to where it deserves to be.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
February 01 2013 02:21 GMT
#67
Prob going to be placed into Gold 1 or 2 and will have to claw my way out ><
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 02:27:25
February 01 2013 02:25 GMT
#68
On February 01 2013 11:14 nojitosunrise wrote:
http://na.lolesports.com/

http://euw.lolesports.com/

http://eune.lolesports.com/

This is pretty impressive imo.

For additional content from the community sites that contributed to lolesports.com, take a look at ggchronicle.com, teamliquid.net and in2lol.com.


WAT.

Also link to teamliquid.net and not
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=51

All the people who click on that link and see SC2 and DotA on the front page and no idea where to find LoL.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 02:28:00
February 01 2013 02:26 GMT
#69
On February 01 2013 10:59 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 10:51 TheLink wrote:
On February 01 2013 10:47 UniversalSnip wrote:
On February 01 2013 10:42 TheLink wrote:
Feels like everyones getting in their last dodges before the penalty comes back. Been in queue nearly 40 mins now.


the penalty is a fake.


Really? this LP thing isn't like the return of hitting them in the elo?


No, not at all. You lose LP, but if your elo is higher than your LP, the system gives you more LP when you win, and if it's lower, it gives you less. So basically your league rating will get sucked onto your hidden elo like a magnet. If you lose LP for dodging, it won't affect your visible league rating at all, over time.

I've never been in the habit of dodging, but as far as I'm concerned, if it seems like I want to the penalty just went down, perhaps substantially.

Yeah there's no real penalty to dodging, but given how few people seem to understand how the system works, this penalty just might work.

Although if you're on a promotion series, doesn't dodging automatically lose the whole series for you? That's a pretty big penalty right there.

EDIT: actually, it might be a pretty good penalty. If you dodge once or twice, your LP will quickly get back to where it should be, but if you habitually dodge like 1/3 of all your games your LP could end up in a steady state that's much lower than the LP you would have if you didn't dodge at all.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 02:32:58
February 01 2013 02:30 GMT
#70
On February 01 2013 10:25 Alaric wrote:
0K Ketara, I can totally see how our differing playstyles and champs make us hold different priorities toward Zhonya's. x)

Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 10:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
I don't get the complaints about Seekers. LiNk thinks that item is going to be popular as fk and I concur.

TL;DR:

1. Before, you had trade-offs, crutches/corner-cutting and this kind of decisions involved in starting items and build paths to survive an AD vs AP lane (cloth then sell, lose 90 to survive lane? Get Tabi instead of sorcs? Rush chainvest? Be a man and forego armour entirely?). In a sense there was depth to it, and it involved playstyle. Riot saying "super cheap cloth is always interesting now and expensive chain vest a lot less" takes away a lot of this.

2. On top of that, they did it because players complained about "having to start cloth+5 and waste gold on cloth". Basically it's lowering the skill level because of a tantrum on GD.

3. In the case where you built Zhonya early on, Seeker's is actually worse than chain vest timing-wise, you could have more armour earlier with a chain vest, and retain the better slot-efficiency till Seeker's is mostly stacked. For example against a bruta rush, you'll have to rush Seeker's or you'll have less armour than a chain vest by the time they finish it (sorcs+chainvest is roughly the price of boots+bruta, say).

See, I try to make shorter.


More on Armguard:

It also allows you, if you're facing a 100% AD team, to get Zhonyas and Armguard and feel good about it. As is vs. those teams I'd get Zhonyas and a second Chainvest, and not upgrade the thing till 6th item and maybe make Thornmail or some other thing. Not that Thornmail is BAD, but every item has to have AP on it. Duh.

I think Armguard and the changes to Fiendish Codex are going to make the mid-game AP item changes much more interchangeable and organic. There'll be options to have a bunch of mid game items like a Fiendish Codex, Seekers Armguard, Haunting Guise and a Chalice in whatever order, with no major item.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
February 01 2013 02:33 GMT
#71
Is it just me, or the bio for qtpie on the LCS site is really not the most flattering thing they could've written about him. The way it is worded just seems so negative compared to say Dyrus, where they're more or less trying to say the same thing.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 01 2013 02:39 GMT
#72
On February 01 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 11:14 nojitosunrise wrote:
http://na.lolesports.com/

http://euw.lolesports.com/

http://eune.lolesports.com/

This is pretty impressive imo.

Show nested quote +
For additional content from the community sites that contributed to lolesports.com, take a look at ggchronicle.com, teamliquid.net and in2lol.com.


WAT.

Also link to teamliquid.net and not
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=51

All the people who click on that link and see SC2 and DotA on the front page and no idea where to find LoL.


Working on getting this fixed.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 01 2013 02:40 GMT
#73
ADs will never have to expand their champion pool as there are really no ad vs ad counters
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 01 2013 02:49 GMT
#74
On February 01 2013 11:40 zulu_nation8 wrote:
ADs will never have to expand their champion pool as there are really no ad vs ad counters

Urgot
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 01 2013 02:50 GMT
#75
same thing, only urgot + something is a problem
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
February 01 2013 02:54 GMT
#76
On February 01 2013 11:21 MooMooMugi wrote:
Prob going to be placed into Gold 1 or 2 and will have to claw my way out ><


Feel your pain. Highest elo this season is 1663, but now I've tanked to 1470 atm and ranked is down so I can't raise it back up. Hopefully it takes a happy middle ground between those 2 numbers. I'd be happy if so.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
February 01 2013 02:54 GMT
#77
Azubu is actually a sponsor for the LCS

holy shit
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
February 01 2013 02:54 GMT
#78
God this game is in such a bad position.

6 Warmogs in my last game. When carries are building warmogs, you know something is going wrong.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 01 2013 03:00 GMT
#79
One of the TPA ESVTV games tonight ended with no AP champions, 6 Warmogs, 6 Ninja Tabi, 4 Last Whispers, 4 Black Cleavers and 4 Bloodthirsters.

I think the coming patch will halpu.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 03:18:47
February 01 2013 03:16 GMT
#80
So while ranked q's are disabled, any suggestions on things to try in normals?

EDIT: Hard randomed Yi jungle, could be worse I guess.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
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