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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
February 01 2013 03:19 GMT
#81
Was happy building dfg on Morde every game, now they have to make it pointless for manaless casters again.

-__-
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 01 2013 03:21 GMT
#82
On February 01 2013 12:19 schmutttt wrote:
Was happy building dfg on Morde every game, now they have to make it pointless for manaless casters again.

-__-


Because they're totally putting MP/5 on it?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
February 01 2013 03:21 GMT
#83
due to downvotes goth annie not being released separate no more

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=34102658#34102658
bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
February 01 2013 03:23 GMT
#84
On February 01 2013 12:21 samthesaluki wrote:
due to downvotes goth annie not being released separate no more

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=34102658#34102658

Am I the only one who finds it funny that both announcing that Goth Annie will be sold and that Goth Annie will not be sold recieved tons of downvotes?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 01 2013 03:23 GMT
#85
On February 01 2013 12:19 schmutttt wrote:
Was happy building dfg on Morde every game, now they have to make it pointless for manaless casters again.

-__-

You mean like how noone ever built DFG on Vlad, Morde or Katarina when it was in its initial state, and almost noone buying it but Veigar?
Even though the range was shorter at the time, damage-wise it was still through the roof. But it had mp5 so "absolutely unthinkable to build on manaless".
:<
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
February 01 2013 03:25 GMT
#86
So wait, what happens if you don't win your "Promotion Series" do you have to gain another 100 LP to try again or what? Overall I am pretty excited about the leagues though. I have a friend that is about 100 ELO above me at this point who I duo all the time with. I wonder if we will get in the same division.
I got nothin'...
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
February 01 2013 03:25 GMT
#87
On February 01 2013 12:16 Amui wrote:
So while ranked q's are disabled, any suggestions on things to try in normals?

EDIT: Hard randomed Yi jungle, could be worse I guess.


You should learn new champions, and I don't mean learn how to play with them but rather learn how to be good with them. At least thats what I need to do because I have a small ranked champion pool.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
February 01 2013 03:28 GMT
#88
On February 01 2013 12:23 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 12:19 schmutttt wrote:
Was happy building dfg on Morde every game, now they have to make it pointless for manaless casters again.

-__-

You mean like how noone ever built DFG on Vlad, Morde or Katarina when it was in its initial state, and almost noone buying it but Veigar?
Even though the range was shorter at the time, damage-wise it was still through the roof. But it had mp5 so "absolutely unthinkable to build on manaless".
:<


You're really going to pay 3400 for something that includes a codex? It cost a lot less than that last time it had codex.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 01 2013 03:30 GMT
#89
You're missing the part where Codex is now 820g and has no MP5 on it, schmutttt. It's just 30 AP and 10% CDR for 820g.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
February 01 2013 03:31 GMT
#90
On February 01 2013 12:23 bobbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 12:21 samthesaluki wrote:
due to downvotes goth annie not being released separate no more

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=34102658#34102658

Am I the only one who finds it funny that both announcing that Goth Annie will be sold and that Goth Annie will not be sold recieved tons of downvotes?


I personally think Riot made the wrong call on this one. I already have Frostfire Annie and that's gonna remain best skin after the re-work because of the stun particle but they would've made so much money on Goth Annie for the small price of having a very very small minority of their fanbase slightly annoyed. I mean, I wasn't gonna buy Goth Annie either way but I think they need to be careful about how often they do stuff like this. It makes them look horribly unprofessional.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 01 2013 03:32 GMT
#91
Well, just in case:
Fiendish Codex
Faerie Charm removed from recipe
Total cost is now 820 gold from 1000
No longer grants any mana regen

Deathfire Grasp
Recipe changed: Fiendish Codex + Needlessly Large Rod + 880 gold = 3300 gold (from 3000)
Ability power increased to 120 from 100

I'm annoyed too because they gave more slot-efficiency to Zhonya's/DFG at the expense of cost-efficiency (when they're already amongst the most expensive items in the game, esp. for AP champs), but you won't pay for any mp5 really. You'll even get your CDR earlier.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
February 01 2013 03:33 GMT
#92
Official Rule Book for the LCS
http://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/lolesports/LCS Season 3 Regular Season Ruleset.pdf
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
February 01 2013 03:38 GMT
#93
On February 01 2013 12:30 Ketara wrote:
You're missing the part where Codex is now 820g and has no MP5 on it, schmutttt. It's just 30 AP and 10% CDR for 820g.


I'm retarded
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 01 2013 03:39 GMT
#94
On February 01 2013 12:32 Alaric wrote:
Well, just in case:
Show nested quote +
Fiendish Codex
Faerie Charm removed from recipe
Total cost is now 820 gold from 1000
No longer grants any mana regen

Deathfire Grasp
Recipe changed: Fiendish Codex + Needlessly Large Rod + 880 gold = 3300 gold (from 3000)
Ability power increased to 120 from 100

I'm annoyed too because they gave more slot-efficiency to Zhonya's/DFG at the expense of cost-efficiency (when they're already amongst the most expensive items in the game, esp. for AP champs), but you won't pay for any mp5 really. You'll even get your CDR earlier.


I imagine the thought process is that they don't want Deathcap to be such a mandatory item for AP champs. Just my guess. Unfortunately I doubt it will work very well.

I do want to see how well DFG will work on mah Lux now though. I'm so torn. Actives range so short.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
February 01 2013 03:41 GMT
#95
On February 01 2013 09:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also I noticed Phreak isn't doing these patch previews anymore...
Is his only job now to be the caster nobody wants to watch at live events?

Woah Woah, Woah! Hold on a second there. Phreak is one of the only casters that I can say has noticeably improved as the year went on. Credit where it's due, he loves this game, he actually learns from people who understand it better and clearly puts in the time to make himself better. From when I started watching him, he's improved tenfold and he's even brought up the level of Riv, even if just by the slightest of margins
Violet <3 ~~~Better places than here exist
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
February 01 2013 03:47 GMT
#96
On February 01 2013 12:41 SoulSever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also I noticed Phreak isn't doing these patch previews anymore...
Is his only job now to be the caster nobody wants to watch at live events?

Woah Woah, Woah! Hold on a second there. Phreak is one of the only casters that I can say has noticeably improved as the year went on. Credit where it's due, he loves this game, he actually learns from people who understand it better and clearly puts in the time to make himself better. From when I started watching him, he's improved tenfold and he's even brought up the level of Riv, even if just by the slightest of margins


Why do people not like his casting in the first place? When I first started watching LoL pro events back in September he was one of the few casters that I enjoyed right off the bat.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 01 2013 03:48 GMT
#97
On February 01 2013 12:41 SoulSever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also I noticed Phreak isn't doing these patch previews anymore...
Is his only job now to be the caster nobody wants to watch at live events?

Woah Woah, Woah! Hold on a second there. Phreak is one of the only casters that I can say has noticeably improved as the year went on. Credit where it's due, he loves this game, he actually learns from people who understand it better and clearly puts in the time to make himself better. From when I started watching him, he's improved tenfold and he's even brought up the level of Riv, even if just by the slightest of margins

I never personally said he's bad, I said no one wants to watch him, since everyone prefers Deman/Jatt/JoeMiller/Kobe.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 03:53:59
February 01 2013 03:51 GMT
#98
Sorry I'm kind of slow when it comes to the new league but I would really appreciate it if someone could explain to me why it is that the new dodge penalty is only superficial. Does it not affect promotion?
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 01 2013 03:51 GMT
#99
It may have been a couple years since the last heimer buff, but it sure was worth the wait.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
mockturtle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States220 Posts
February 01 2013 03:55 GMT
#100
On February 01 2013 09:56 Seuss wrote:
The fundamental flaw with Seeker's is that there was nothing stopping AP mids from starting Cloth Armor before. It didn't necessarily upgrade into anything you wanted, but then it only cost 90g to sell it back. However, because the community has this weird stigma about buying items and selling them later we now have this new, weird Armor/AP item. It's not the worst thing in the world, but I disagree with the mindset which led to its creation.


I don't really like this general philosophy at all (that all items need to build into something greater, and that they all should have a whole bunch of stats on them, and that every champion should have an item that is oh so perfect just for them). It's not really just a problem with this new ap/armor item but in tons of other items too. I think it pigeonholes a lot of champions into less options simply because there are rarely situations where you can afford to waste so much money on shit you don't need. The game needs a lot more interesting items in the 600-1500 range imo, and it can fill a lot of those places by removing unrelated or uninteresting stats from more expensive items so they can be cheaper (long sword+500g executioners calling with no crit and +15 dmg? chainvest+700g for an ohmwrecker with no mana/health? dagger+500g for a malady with less attack speed?).

Also they could have just changed zhonyas to build from 2 cloth armors instead of a chain vest...
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