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On February 01 2013 13:41 Ketara wrote:
It's ironic because you make a post saying Riot is doing A, and then make another post 8 minutes later getting on Riots case for not doing the thing that you just said they did. It's very ironic.
he's saying blitzcrank's model is a good model of what supports should be like early game
then he says riot should make other supports more like blitzcrank
OH TWO_DOWN YOU IRONIC HIPSTER
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im pretty sure two_down's position is thoroughly consistent here
Also, you REALLY shouldnt throw out random shit about people when you CLEARLY havent been around long enough to figure out who anyone is.
poor form :<
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On February 01 2013 13:44 UniversalSnip wrote:im pretty sure two_down's position is thoroughly consistent here Show nested quote +Also, you REALLY shouldnt throw out random shit about people when you CLEARLY havent been around long enough to figure out who anyone is. poor form :<
Probably. But that second part of his post REALLY ticked me off, considering that mindset is the #1 thing I hate about the community at large.
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Yeah wtf are you saying Ketara, those posts are in agreement with one another, not in conflict.
Post A says the Blitz nerf was a good way to hit him. Post B says more supports should be like that.
Not sure how you're reading any irony from that.
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On February 01 2013 13:45 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 13:44 UniversalSnip wrote:im pretty sure two_down's position is thoroughly consistent here Also, you REALLY shouldnt throw out random shit about people when you CLEARLY havent been around long enough to figure out who anyone is. poor form :< Probably. But that second part of his post REALLY ticked me off, considering that mindset is the #1 thing I hate about the community.
yeah TL has really turned into a bunch of vultures that just fly in and try to pick apart your posts if they sense any slight mistake gg
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Holy shit people need to stop buying fucking Sunfire capes on everyone, they are like garbage can tier efficiency now compared to Omen and Locket.
Triforce efficiency is also total boss now 5100g worth of stats for 3900, and then the two passives for free.
Spirit of the spectral wraith also HUGE buff. It could be worth buying in lane now. It provides 2000g worth of hard stats and you get 20% spellvamp and butcher for free. Its only 2k gold so I can easily see it on anyone who really benefits from spellvamp early, not to mention it makes taking buffs and wraiths SO easy.
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yeah I don't get why triforce is being buffed.
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I didn't read it as "make other supports like Blitzcrank", I read it as "Riot won't make other supports like Blitzcrank because they're stupid and don't want their game to be balanced." But, if making them like Blitzcrank would make the game balanced, and if they just changed Blitzcrank, then how are they stupid. I suppose it'd be nice if every problem the game has was fixed in every patch. Would probably only need one patch then.
It just bugs me when the conclusion to jump to is that the people who are designing the game are idiots. I much prefer to think hey, maybe I don't have all the data and shouldn't assume stupidity. It really ticks people off when you assume things.
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On February 01 2013 13:48 sob3k wrote:
Holy shit people need to stop buying fucking Sunfire capes on everyone, they are like garbage can tier efficiency now compared to Omen and Locket.
Triforce efficiency is also total boss now 5100g worth of stats for 3900, and then the two passives for free.
Too bad people who buy it, don't need like 1.5k worth of those stats. And some of those secondary stats aren't as vital, either.
On February 01 2013 13:50 UniversalSnip wrote:
yeah I don't get why triforce is being buffed.
It pretty much disappeared from play, I don't think anyone builds it any more.
On February 01 2013 13:51 Ketara wrote:
I didn't read it as "make other supports like Blitzcrank", I read it as "Riot won't make other supports like Blitzcrank because they're stupid and don't want their game to be balanced." But, if making them like Blitzcrank would make the game balanced, and if they just changed Blitzcrank, then how are they stupid. I suppose it'd be nice if every problem the game has was fixed in every patch. Would probably only need one patch then.
It just bugs me when the conclusion to jump to is that the people who are designing the game are idiots. I much prefer to think hey, maybe I don't have all the data and shouldn't assume stupidity. It really ticks people off when you assume things.
Just stop. You're not going anywhere with this.
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On February 01 2013 13:51 Ketara wrote:
I didn't read it as "make other supports like Blitzcrank", I read it as "Riot won't make other supports like Blitzcrank because they're stupid and don't want their game to be balanced." But, if making them like Blitzcrank would make the game balanced, and if they just changed Blitzcrank, then how are they stupid. I suppose it'd be nice if every problem the game has was fixed in every patch. Would probably only need one patch then.
It just bugs me when the conclusion to jump to is that the people who are designing the game are idiots. I much prefer to think hey, maybe I don't have all the data and shouldn't assume stupidity. It really ticks people off when you assume things.
You (incorrectly) assumed he was contradicting himself. There was no evidence to support that.
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On February 01 2013 13:50 UniversalSnip wrote:
yeah I don't get why triforce is being buffed.
Phreak.
Or most people just stopped building it because a myriad of new and fun items came in and allowed many trinity force users to go with those items instead, combined with nerfs on phage and the strength of said new and or improved items brought it out of favor. Why spend 4200 or so on a trinity force when you could buy a cleaver and work on a frozen mallet or a lastwhisper? I like to go with my initial reason however, it's more amusing.
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I'm still waiting for them to implement the SuperTriforce.
Although I think only Jax would like it. Possibly Akali.
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Triforce being so cost-efficient now opens up a LOT of new avenues for quite a few champs. Even a few champs that traditionally wouldn't get it might consider it.
Triforce's strength right now is that it is a powerful SINGLE damage item. This has always been its niche, shared with Wit's End and Bloodrazor, but Wit's got nerfed and Bloodrazor is gone, making it the sole option as a single damage item. Most other damage items are designed to be paired, giving lopsided stats on their own (virtually all AD carry items are like this). Having the potential to have a well-rounded combination of efficient damage stats immediately allows you to directly transition into defensive items after ONE damage item (as opposed to 2, which is more typical). This opens up a totally different set of potential push/teamfight timings, as you gain well-rounded combat ability much earlier.
Compare Triforce->Warmogs to, say, BT+LW+Warmog's. The latter is stronger when completed, but has gaps/certain lopsidedness in power (saving for BF Sword, buildup required after completed Bloodthirster to get stacks, no defensive stats until Warmog's). By comparison, Triforce has very immediate spikes in power, and very smooth buildup.
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Dude holy balls I think this is actually a buff to jungle Elise. The buff to Ap spirit stone are so big and perfect for her allowing it to be bought so much earlier and giving basically infinite sustain and the mp5 to support her new mana cost on Q.
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TD sucks and is probably 1200 elo, gg
People build Sunfire because health, thats why. Why build resists when health is there?
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I'd settle for a Gunblade cannon. After you've completed a third gunblade you can turn it into the gunblade cannon. I have no idea what it'd do but it'd be awesome.
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On February 01 2013 14:00 Parnage wrote:
I'd settle for a Gunblade cannon. After you've completed a third gunblade you can turn it into the gunblade cannon. I have no idea what it'd do but it'd be awesome.
You'd get 3 shots, obviously.
Im actually REALLY sad that the shots are unique. It makes dual wielding not very useful. Fun, but not as much as it could be.
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On February 01 2013 14:02 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 14:00 Parnage wrote:
I'd settle for a Gunblade cannon. After you've completed a third gunblade you can turn it into the gunblade cannon. I have no idea what it'd do but it'd be awesome. You'd get 3 shots, obviously. Im actually REALLY sad that the shots are unique. It makes dual wielding not very useful. Fun, but not as much as it could be.
Gunblade Cannon. Active does 1000 magic damage + 50% slow for 2.5 seconds, it's a skill shot the same size as Lux ult. 30second cool down. MAKE IT HAPPEN RIOT.
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On February 01 2013 14:04 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 14:02 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 01 2013 14:00 Parnage wrote:
I'd settle for a Gunblade cannon. After you've completed a third gunblade you can turn it into the gunblade cannon. I have no idea what it'd do but it'd be awesome. You'd get 3 shots, obviously. Im actually REALLY sad that the shots are unique. It makes dual wielding not very useful. Fun, but not as much as it could be. Gunblade Cannon. Active does 1000 magic damage + 50% slow for 2.5 seconds, it's a skill shot the same size as Lux ult. 30second cool down. MAKE IT HAPPEN RIOT.
Is there also a visual upgrade that makes you look like a Gundam when you buy it?
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