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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 05:06:33
February 01 2013 05:06 GMT
#141
Triforce+Locket actually seems like it'd be even better than Triforce+Warmogs in low-econ early push/teamfight games.

The advantage of both items is their extremely strong buildup. They both build from <500 gold parts, so you pretty much can always buy something when you go home. You never have to bank gold, so you never have gaps in power, meaning you never have to fall back into a farming tempo. If you pick the right team, it allows you to basically keep up constant pressure, and give no breathing room. If you get an early lane or teamfight advantage, you could easily just snowball a game into victory without creating any openings back into the game, because your power never plateaus while you're saving for something.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 01 2013 05:07 GMT
#142
Far as elo goes...

It works pretty well for chess, and chess players play significantly less games than LoL players do. So it should really have been just fine as a relative ranking system.

(in response to the end of last thread)

Going to have to retool some jungling paths maybe, see if a way to rush an earlier spirit stone is useful.

I think the sightstone change is kind of stupid. Yeah its more expensive fuck over the support more please. I'll just buy an extra round or two of greens and stay more gold starved kthanks. You know how hard relevant warding is now with these stupid stealth mechanics and Thresh's lantern? Geez.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 05:12:46
February 01 2013 05:11 GMT
#143
I think you guys are talking up the new Triforce a bit too much. Yes, it's more cost efficient, but 300 gold difference between having each separate item vs having a triforce wasn't an issue with triforce. The reason triforce was stopped being built was because it was suppose to be the single most slot efficient solo damage item in the game, so inefficient gold usage for it was justified by how strong it was (by itself). This cost buff, doesn't make Triforce any stronger, so it's still going to be largely ignored for the most part imo. It'll just be nice for champions like Jax, Nidalee, and etc. where triforce was somewhat core on them.

EDIT: actually with cost nerf to BT + TF buff cost, Triforce based ADC may make a resurgence. Corki + Triforce + Black Cleaver, could be popular.
liftlift > tsm
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 05:12:27
February 01 2013 05:11 GMT
#144
On February 01 2013 13:57 Two_DoWn wrote:
I'm still waiting for them to implement the SuperTriforce.

Although I think only Jax would like it. Possibly Akali.

What's super triforce? Triforce + Shurelya's + aegis?

combine cost: 3

+750 health
+300 mana
+20 armor
+20 magic resist
+30 attack damage
+30 ability power
+30% attack speed
+10% critical strike chance
+10% movement speed
+10% cooldown reduction
+10 health per 5 seconds
+10 mana per 5 seconds
Unique passive - Icy: Your basic attacks have a 25% chance to slow the target by 30% for 2 seconds (20% for ranged attackers)
Unique passive - Spellblade: After using an ability, your next basic attack deals bonus physical damage equal to 150% of your base attack damage (2 second cooldown)
Unique aura - Legion: Nearby allies gain +10 armor, +15 magic resist, and +10 health per 5 seconds
Unique active: Nearby allies gain 40% movement speed for 3 seconds (60 second cooldown)

BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 05:17:08
February 01 2013 05:11 GMT
#145
On February 01 2013 13:57 Two_DoWn wrote:
I'm still waiting for them to implement the SuperTriforce.

Although I think only Jax would like it. Possibly Akali.


Has 3 times the stats of a triforce in 1 item, passive proc does 450% of your AD, and has an active called tons of damage where it does physical damage to the enemy. (33% +3% of the enemy's max health for every triforce/super triforce in the game, 333 range).
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 01 2013 05:13 GMT
#146
Supertriforce is Mallet+LB+PD.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 05:15:23
February 01 2013 05:14 GMT
#147
On February 01 2013 14:13 Two_DoWn wrote:
Supertriforce is Mallet+LB+PD.

Lichbane and not Iceborn?

Apply Iceborn slow on every attack. Also lets you squeeze CDR onto the item.
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
February 01 2013 05:14 GMT
#148
When will Riot learn that no matter how much they nerf Ez, hes still OP. The problem with Ez is he has an extremely safe escape and a long range Q. Ez will still be the safest ADC out there since people will dive ADC every team fight and Ez is the only one who can peel for himself while doing damage at he same time.
Terran
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
February 01 2013 05:15 GMT
#149
On February 01 2013 14:07 ticklishmusic wrote:
Far as elo goes...

It works pretty well for chess, and chess players play significantly less games than LoL players do. So it should really have been just fine as a relative ranking system.

(in response to the end of last thread)

Going to have to retool some jungling paths maybe, see if a way to rush an earlier spirit stone is useful.

I think the sightstone change is kind of stupid. Yeah its more expensive fuck over the support more please. I'll just buy an extra round or two of greens and stay more gold starved kthanks. You know how hard relevant warding is now with these stupid stealth mechanics and Thresh's lantern? Geez.


Except in chess its a 1v1. In LoL it's a 5v5 and a single person is at the mercy of 4 other people.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 01 2013 05:16 GMT
#150
On February 01 2013 14:14 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 14:13 Two_DoWn wrote:
Supertriforce is Mallet+LB+PD.

Lichbane and not Iceborn?

Apply Iceborn slow on every attack. Also lets you squeeze CDR onto the item.

Iceborn/Mallet is redundant though.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 05:17:40
February 01 2013 05:17 GMT
#151
On February 01 2013 14:14 Caphe wrote:
When will Riot learn that no matter how much they nerf Ez, hes still OP. The problem with Ez is he has an extremely safe escape and a long range Q. Ez will still be the safest ADC out there since people will dive ADC every team fight and Ez is the only one who can peel for himself while doing damage at he same time.

Ez nerfs have been far too gratuitous imo. I think he's popular not OP'd. He's just an example of a well rounded champion who's strength comes from doing everything well, but nothing great (except from escaping).
On February 01 2013 14:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 14:14 TheYango wrote:
On February 01 2013 14:13 Two_DoWn wrote:
Supertriforce is Mallet+LB+PD.

Lichbane and not Iceborn?

Apply Iceborn slow on every attack. Also lets you squeeze CDR onto the item.

Iceborn/Mallet is redundant though.

replace mallet w/ warmogs.
liftlift > tsm
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
February 01 2013 05:18 GMT
#152
The superforce is building from sheen, phage, and zeal to their own items:
sheen -> IGB
phage -> frozen mallet
zeal -> shiv
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 01 2013 05:19 GMT
#153
On February 01 2013 14:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 14:14 TheYango wrote:
On February 01 2013 14:13 Two_DoWn wrote:
Supertriforce is Mallet+LB+PD.

Lichbane and not Iceborn?

Apply Iceborn slow on every attack. Also lets you squeeze CDR onto the item.

Iceborn/Mallet is redundant though.

^ what he said.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
February 01 2013 05:19 GMT
#154
I'd like if they made an item that was brutalizer+haunting guise, gave it some really good cost-efficient stats, then watch the cost efficiency theorycrafters squirm in their seats

Brutalizer + Haunting guise + 678g (total: 3500g)
+400 health
+45 ability power
+45 attack damage
+10% cooldown reduction
Unique passive: +20 armor penetration
Unique passive - Eyes of pain: +20 magic penetration
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
February 01 2013 05:21 GMT
#155
Iceborn + Mallet + Rylai's
Your auto attacks and abilities snare enemies for 0.5 seconds.
3.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 05:23:20
February 01 2013 05:22 GMT
#156
Actually, super triforce is clearly

philosopher's stone + kages + averice blade

UNIQUE ACTIVE: puts the game into stasis for 5 minutes, letting you enjoy your gp10
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 01 2013 05:23 GMT
#157
Tiamat kind of sounds like Phreak on helium.
It's your boy Guzma!
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
February 01 2013 05:23 GMT
#158
It ain't redundant you're redundant super triforce is cool and it's double pink swords, frozen glove and blue hammer.
Retvrn to Forvms
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 01 2013 05:23 GMT
#159
On February 01 2013 14:15 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 14:07 ticklishmusic wrote:
Far as elo goes...

It works pretty well for chess, and chess players play significantly less games than LoL players do. So it should really have been just fine as a relative ranking system.

(in response to the end of last thread)

Going to have to retool some jungling paths maybe, see if a way to rush an earlier spirit stone is useful.

I think the sightstone change is kind of stupid. Yeah its more expensive fuck over the support more please. I'll just buy an extra round or two of greens and stay more gold starved kthanks. You know how hard relevant warding is now with these stupid stealth mechanics and Thresh's lantern? Geez.


Except in chess its a 1v1. In LoL it's a 5v5 and a single person is at the mercy of 4 other people.


True.

Play 5x the games?
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GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
February 01 2013 05:23 GMT
#160
I hope Riot makes some more champions with the purpose of bulding AP and AD like the Katarina from olden times.
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