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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 09 2013 20:54 GMT
#2921
On February 10 2013 05:52 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 02:48 TheYango wrote:
Do we know if you lose Elo for dodging?

Because if you lose League Points and not Elo, you basically don't lose anything because your Elo being ahead of your League Points will cause your League Point gains to catch up anyway.


we knew before the system even came out that dodges are free now.


But do we know AFTER the system came out?
Hey! How you doin'?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
February 09 2013 20:58 GMT
#2922
On February 10 2013 05:54 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 05:52 UniversalSnip wrote:
On February 10 2013 02:48 TheYango wrote:
Do we know if you lose Elo for dodging?

Because if you lose League Points and not Elo, you basically don't lose anything because your Elo being ahead of your League Points will cause your League Point gains to catch up anyway.


we knew before the system even came out that dodges are free now.


But do we know AFTER the system came out?

That's a matter of style and personal preference. If knowing works for you, do it. There's no right answer.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 09 2013 20:59 GMT
#2923
On February 10 2013 05:54 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 05:52 UniversalSnip wrote:
On February 10 2013 02:48 TheYango wrote:
Do we know if you lose Elo for dodging?

Because if you lose League Points and not Elo, you basically don't lose anything because your Elo being ahead of your League Points will cause your League Point gains to catch up anyway.


we knew before the system even came out that dodges are free now.


But do we know AFTER the system came out?

Yeah, there's been a Riot post about it, I could find it but I remember reading there is still no hidden MMR penalty for dodging. They did this because they still want it so people can dodge as a strategic counter to champ select trolls.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 09 2013 21:08 GMT
#2924
On February 10 2013 05:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On February 10 2013 05:16 Parnage wrote:
If half of that kit is true holy hell that's going to be a pain to deal with.

Not to mention a pain to use...?
I don't understand how this works, but if supposedly Valor uses his abilities automatically then when you max rank Q he will push people back?
What if you want to bait or something...
This is gonna require some PBE before any conclusions are drawn but man.....

Yeah sounds kind of odd. Could lead to some times where the passive might go off even when you don't want it to. Although this could be poor wording on Riot's part, wouldn't be the first time. Agreed though, this will require some PBE investigation. They've piqued my interest though.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 21:17:20
February 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#2925
Quinn seems easy to play not sure what you guys are talking about :p
Will need to try her out though.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 09 2013 21:21 GMT
#2926
It's mostly because people are focusing too hard on Valor's abilities and trying to control them, and worrying about them triggering in situations you don't want them to.

Remember you only get them when the skill is maxed (like Syndra's bonus effects on maxed skills).
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little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
February 09 2013 21:38 GMT
#2927
The new Corki skin is just baller. So noisy, so beautiful. So good that I replaced my good old almost 2 year old Red Baron Corki with it.
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
February 09 2013 21:47 GMT
#2928
On February 10 2013 06:38 little fancy wrote:
The new Corki skin is just baller. So noisy, so beautiful. So good that I replaced my good old almost 2 year old Red Baron Corki with it.


i like all of the new skins. riot has come far from the recolour skins.

too bad i don't play any of the champs :8 well definitely need to pick up jarvan.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 09 2013 21:50 GMT
#2929
On February 10 2013 05:35 plasmidghost wrote:
New Sona splash to be released soon. http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23111-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-2-9-2013-new-sona
It seems fairly obvious they're making her look more like Hatsune Miku with the update


Noooo I like the old Sona splash >< The new one isn't bad though.
Never Knows Best.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 09 2013 22:03 GMT
#2930
I'm just gonna say, invisible projectiles are dumb
Bronze player stuck in platinum
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
February 09 2013 22:21 GMT
#2931
On February 10 2013 05:59 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 05:54 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 10 2013 05:52 UniversalSnip wrote:
On February 10 2013 02:48 TheYango wrote:
Do we know if you lose Elo for dodging?

Because if you lose League Points and not Elo, you basically don't lose anything because your Elo being ahead of your League Points will cause your League Point gains to catch up anyway.


we knew before the system even came out that dodges are free now.


But do we know AFTER the system came out?

Yeah, there's been a Riot post about it, I could find it but I remember reading there is still no hidden MMR penalty for dodging. They did this because they still want it so people can dodge as a strategic counter to champ select trolls.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3079695
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 22:47:41
February 09 2013 22:41 GMT
#2932
On February 10 2013 06:21 TheYango wrote:
It's mostly because people are focusing too hard on Valor's abilities and trying to control them, and worrying about them triggering in situations you don't want them to.

Remember you only get them when the skill is maxed (like Syndra's bonus effects on maxed skills).

So is each skill only going to be used once? If so that makes it a little more manageable too.

Edit: Maybe they refresh every time she maxes a skill? Would seem too strong to have them up all of the time. Guess we'll wait for the PBE but the wording is weird.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 09 2013 22:52 GMT
#2933
On February 10 2013 07:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 06:21 TheYango wrote:
It's mostly because people are focusing too hard on Valor's abilities and trying to control them, and worrying about them triggering in situations you don't want them to.

Remember you only get them when the skill is maxed (like Syndra's bonus effects on maxed skills).

So is each skill only going to be used once? If so that makes it a little more manageable too.

Edit: Maybe they refresh every time she maxes a skill? Would seem too strong to have them up all of the time. Guess we'll wait for the PBE but the wording is weird.

Well no, I assume they each have some internal CD.

The point is you don't have to manage that many skills. For the majority of the game you only have 1-2 of the Valor abilities, and one of those 3 is a passive.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 09 2013 22:56 GMT
#2934
On February 10 2013 07:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 07:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
On February 10 2013 06:21 TheYango wrote:
It's mostly because people are focusing too hard on Valor's abilities and trying to control them, and worrying about them triggering in situations you don't want them to.

Remember you only get them when the skill is maxed (like Syndra's bonus effects on maxed skills).

So is each skill only going to be used once? If so that makes it a little more manageable too.

Edit: Maybe they refresh every time she maxes a skill? Would seem too strong to have them up all of the time. Guess we'll wait for the PBE but the wording is weird.

Well no, I assume they each have some internal CD.

The point is you don't have to manage that many skills. For the majority of the game you only have 1-2 of the Valor abilities, and one of those 3 is a passive.

Yeah, I misread part of the passive. I agree shouldn't be too bad, but it sounds like a pretty neat kit overall. So far the two 2013 champs has been decently mechanically intensive (at least Quinn seems to be somewhat)
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 09 2013 23:11 GMT
#2935
whats with riot and making new splash arts where the champs look like they have broken necks

i liked sona's old splash too.
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discator
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany639 Posts
February 09 2013 23:16 GMT
#2936
I like all the new skins but taric xin. the corki skin is rly sick imo.
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 09 2013 23:19 GMT
#2937
Am I the only one that thinks jarvan is op? Every time I've seen a jarvan they've completely dominated. Ganks with your E and your ult are insanely hard to get away from if you don't have a flash.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
February 09 2013 23:24 GMT
#2938
He is OP. The only reason he's not broken OP, is because he's broken. As in, his ultimate and his gapcloser frequently don't work properly.
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 09 2013 23:35 GMT
#2939
On February 10 2013 08:24 Inschato wrote:
He is OP. The only reason he's not broken OP, is because he's broken. As in, his ultimate and his gapcloser frequently don't work properly.

Idk if they fixed it, but it seems to work a lot better than I remember. Maybe it's just confirmation bias, idk, but it seems like both got way more reliable.
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
February 09 2013 23:55 GMT
#2940
On February 10 2013 08:19 IMoperator wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks jarvan is op? Every time I've seen a jarvan they've completely dominated. Ganks with your E and your ult are insanely hard to get away from if you don't have a flash.


TBH I think Xin is worse. You can literally build zero damage items and still easily kill people from his absurd base damage and built in CDR.
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