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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11786 Posts
February 09 2013 18:43 GMT
#2901
On February 10 2013 03:16 Ketara wrote:
The problem is not that people need to be punished for dodging, but people need to be punishable for making other people dodge.

I find it fairly laughable that I lose league points for dodging, but the guy who is making me dodge does not.

I'd be very happy if Riot started doing things like finding people who consistantly force others to dodge (they rounded up a bunch and handed out bans before) and dropping them a division or two.

There's all kinds of things they could do with league points that they aren't doing. If somebody disconnects from a game and forces a loss they could reduce the number of LP you lose, but they aren't doing that either.


The more weird things you do, the more exploitable the system gets. I agree that there needs to be a way to report people who troll in champ select. And obviously the Post/Pregame chats should be available to the tribunal, too. I assume there is some sort of technical limitation as to why it isn't there already. But if you reduce the losses if someone dcs, what keeps people from dcing to reduce their losses?
JeosAdn
Profile Joined September 2011
Costa Rica432 Posts
February 09 2013 18:43 GMT
#2902
I got a tier 2 turret about uuhh... 30 minutes into a game I think? or 40 maybe.
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
February 09 2013 18:46 GMT
#2903
On February 10 2013 03:16 Ketara wrote:
The problem is not that people need to be punished for dodging, but people need to be punishable for making other people dodge.

I find it fairly laughable that I lose league points for dodging, but the guy who is making me dodge does not.

I'd be very happy if Riot started doing things like finding people who consistantly force others to dodge (they rounded up a bunch and handed out bans before) and dropping them a division or two.

There's all kinds of things they could do with league points that they aren't doing. If somebody disconnects from a game and forces a loss they could reduce the number of LP you lose, but they aren't doing that either.



Or add a report function to champion select.

Frankly every time I queue up and get a 5th pick who says something like "mid or I feed" I want to dodge. I have no problem playing 3 positions (basically anything except top lane), so I have zero sympathy for people who try to insist they play the same position every game.

Or which happens almost as often that people just lock in a troll pick if they don't get the position they wanted. I don't flame, but players like that make me seriously question if it is worth it to play the game, because it's 90% certain we will loose.

In all fairness, I have no idea how these problems can be fixed. At the end of the day almost everyone is an egoist on the internet, and if random chance throws you together with 4 people who want to play solo lane, something has got to give I just don't think punishing dodges when they are our "only" defense against absurd trolling during champion select is the right way to go.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
February 09 2013 18:54 GMT
#2904
On February 10 2013 03:43 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 03:16 Ketara wrote:
The problem is not that people need to be punished for dodging, but people need to be punishable for making other people dodge.

I find it fairly laughable that I lose league points for dodging, but the guy who is making me dodge does not.

I'd be very happy if Riot started doing things like finding people who consistantly force others to dodge (they rounded up a bunch and handed out bans before) and dropping them a division or two.

There's all kinds of things they could do with league points that they aren't doing. If somebody disconnects from a game and forces a loss they could reduce the number of LP you lose, but they aren't doing that either.


The more weird things you do, the more exploitable the system gets. I agree that there needs to be a way to report people who troll in champ select. And obviously the Post/Pregame chats should be available to the tribunal, too. I assume there is some sort of technical limitation as to why it isn't there already. But if you reduce the losses if someone dcs, what keeps people from dcing to reduce their losses?

Send a support ticket report. Also, Riot has access to both those chats.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 09 2013 18:57 GMT
#2905
you should request a name change to Gahlio LOL
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 19:15:18
February 09 2013 19:15 GMT
#2906
The problem is you'd get an overwhelming number of false reports for people just playing unorthodox things that aren't (and shouldn't be) punishable.
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Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
February 09 2013 19:32 GMT
#2907
Yeah.. ranked is already annoying enough, I get people yelling at me half the time when I try to play Nasus Jungle or J4 Support, even though both are just as good as other more commonly accepted champions in those roles. You shouldn't be punished for doing something a little unusual just because your team is narrow-minded.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 09 2013 19:37 GMT
#2908
On February 10 2013 04:32 Inschato wrote:
Yeah.. ranked is already annoying enough, I get people yelling at me half the time when I try to play Nasus Jungle or J4 Support, even though both are just as good as other more commonly accepted champions in those roles. You shouldn't be punished for doing something a little unusual just because your team is narrow-minded.


I REALLY wish shit worked this way, but people don't understand thinking outside the box. Esp. low Elo, where "current meta" and "counters" and "op champs" are Gods. whaddyagunnadew?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 09 2013 19:38 GMT
#2909
On February 10 2013 04:37 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 04:32 Inschato wrote:
Yeah.. ranked is already annoying enough, I get people yelling at me half the time when I try to play Nasus Jungle or J4 Support, even though both are just as good as other more commonly accepted champions in those roles. You shouldn't be punished for doing something a little unusual just because your team is narrow-minded.


I REALLY wish shit worked this way, but people don't understand thinking outside the box. Esp. low Elo, where "current meta" and "counters" and "op champs" are Gods. whaddyagunnadew?

You mute everyone and carry your team kicking and screaming to victory.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 09 2013 19:55 GMT
#2910
In an effort to lose my placement matches I've actually been picking relatively unused champions in ranked and trying items that I never do, but I think can have merit, like Dorans in the jungle.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 09 2013 20:13 GMT
#2911
http://www.absolutelegends.net/news/display/2894/Quinn-A-shroud-of-mystery-on-the-wings-of-Demacia

So...not sure if anyone's seen this, but Quinn abilities have been leaked.
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 09 2013 20:16 GMT
#2912
If half of that kit is true holy hell that's going to be a pain to deal with.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 09 2013 20:17 GMT
#2913
On February 10 2013 05:16 Parnage wrote:
If half of that kit is true holy hell that's going to be a pain to deal with.

Not to mention a pain to use...?
I don't understand how this works, but if supposedly Valor uses his abilities automatically then when you max rank Q he will push people back?
What if you want to bait or something...
This is gonna require some PBE before any conclusions are drawn but man.....
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 09 2013 20:21 GMT
#2914
I am excited about it at least. Complex champions are fun to play with and I've got to guess they've worked out some way to manage valor's abilities or at least give you an idea when he will use them.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 09 2013 20:30 GMT
#2915
For those who are having trouble with AL's site loading, here's an image of the abilities.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Hey! How you doin'?
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 20:38:35
February 09 2013 20:35 GMT
#2916
New Sona splash to be released soon. http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23111-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-2-9-2013-new-sona
It seems fairly obvious they're making her look more like Hatsune Miku with the update
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 20:38:49
February 09 2013 20:36 GMT
#2917
Wow that kit looks amazing and complex. I'm not sure if you can manually toggle his Q or not (I hope you can), but I can see his W being super clutch.

Edit: I meant Valor's Q ability.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 09 2013 20:42 GMT
#2918
qss 20g cheaper, def gonna buy it now!!!
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
February 09 2013 20:52 GMT
#2919
On February 10 2013 02:48 TheYango wrote:
Do we know if you lose Elo for dodging?

Because if you lose League Points and not Elo, you basically don't lose anything because your Elo being ahead of your League Points will cause your League Point gains to catch up anyway.


we knew before the system even came out that dodges are free now.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 09 2013 20:53 GMT
#2920
On February 10 2013 05:35 plasmidghost wrote:
New Sona splash to be released soon. http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23111-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-2-9-2013-new-sona
It seems fairly obvious they're making her look more like Hatsune Miku with the update

Wow if these are true they sound CRAZY good. I like how they are turning invisible skillshots into a feature hue. Need to see some ranges, but the ability to teleport to a marked Traitor sounds pretty strong.
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