EPT[Patch 3.01: Season 3] General Discussion - Page 134
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Elite00fm
United States548 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 08 2013 22:08 Keniji wrote: is there a way to watch featured games if there is an unusual background like "who will rise?" right now? Also is there a way to watch players (for example challenger tier) without having them on friends list? Dunno about the first question, about the second one people with the LoLmatches client active can be spectated through the site. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On February 08 2013 22:16 Alaric wrote: Utahime/Southlight did it at least as far back as season 1, and I know Soniv used the T.R.O.L.L.S. as an excuse to run it with excellent results in soloQ. I believe the IBG-Kassadin build is still undefeated. At least, last I heard. | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
On February 08 2013 20:37 Alaric wrote: I dunno, I always feel super weak as Nasus level 1. And I've been invaded something like 1/3rd of my jungle attempts? What I meant was that even when taking W at level 3 (which should be the earliest imo) you can get attacked at your red buff by the enemy jungler and you won't have it. Of course, if your laners are responsive and have some burst (even better, if they have some physical burst), baiting the enemy jungler into fighting you and using Wither to keep him in place you're actually scary (plus the -20 armour debuff means something like 17% physical damage taken increase). I often drop somewhat low (around half) while using all 4 of my potions on my first clear though, with 0-9-21 masteries and AD/armour/MR/MS runes. I'm probably doing something wrong (Monte and Teut manage to remain high while running utility too). >_> Also, apparently I'm a shining beacon of humble teamwork now. 'k. My teamwork relies more on picking whatever people need and always warding up whichever role I play than on actual gameplay but I don't think people honor for that. I went 8-13-9 if I remember correctly and I was ok, but maybe about half? I will try again tonight and keep a closer eye on it. The thing with red is, that I very often use smite on blue late, to be 100% sure that it can't be stolen. So if somebody really invades me, that is a problem. But if you got invaded 1/3 of the time you're probably at a much higher elo than me and maybe people just don't react correctly to the Nasus picks in my games, which makes it easier for me. I do the same with the warding at the moment. I carry wards no matter what I play. I got so tired of discussing with people the correct usage of wards, if I'm the jungler, I just ward for my lanes if they fail to do so. Might not be ideal, but setting myself back a few 100g is actually worth it if I can prevent lanes from feeding in my opinion. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14104 Posts
On February 08 2013 22:09 Elite00fm wrote: Has anyone ever tried to build kassadin as a tank? His kit gives him innate MR and his damage goes up as more spells are cast around him. He's also decently disruptive with his silence and aoe slow. His ult could be good for engaging and positioning too. I don't really know what to build on him though, IBG seems like it would be core, but I can't really think of much else that would synergies well with his kit. RoA maybe? Warmogs good on everyone, even locket good on everyone. You could even go like boots+ 4 tank slots and a DFG and you would prob still be able to burst a carry down really fast. check out the kassadin thread. IBG core Shake loves him some tank kassidin says he hasn't lost yet with it. The problem I'm having with nasus is that I just never feel tanky enough. I got my hecarim jarvan noct trio in the jungle where I just buy omen/warmogs/sunfire/bc/frozen heart and win games. No one builds tank at all in my level (fuck you wukong top players who build just ad and never get any defensive items) so I feel obligated to build into a heavy initiation heavy tank style jungler that nasus simply isn't. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Baleful Strike PASSIVE: Veigar gains permanent bonus ability power when he kills a champion from any source of damage. This stacks with the active ability's AP gain. ACTIVE: Unleashes dark energy at target enemy, dealing magic damage. If this ability deals a killing blow, Veigar gains 1 ability power permanently. This also refreshes Baleful Strike's cooldown, and refunds half of its mana cost. This bonus is doubled for large minions, large monsters, and champions. That's... wow. It probably wouldn't go live, but that's quite the extreme tentative tweak. Pew pew Veigar instantly annihilating waves with a Tear for 6 AP and 240 mana each. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On February 08 2013 18:01 red_ wrote: They should keep the Q mana cost change in even if the other stuff makes him really strong, because that's a huge QoL change for top-lane Nasus. Oddly enough a Nasus bot in an AI game I did for WOTD fed on some people and got like, legitimately scary; it reminded me how frightening he is with a solid amount of items, kit being susceptible to some kiting or not. Also don't forget the intermediate bots get free gold too (the farther behind they get the more free gold they get) so bots will get 'fed' by default in any game that lasts longer than 20 minutes. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
Utahime/Southlight did it at least as far back as season 1, and I know Soniv used the T.R.O.L.L.S. as an excuse to run it with excellent results in soloQ. Yeah, I liked it. I also liked just Frozen Heart on him too. The IBG was nice, but didn't quite make me tanky enough sometimes. The trick is figuring out the timings. I was running 9/21/0 with Viktor runes (MS quints), so I needed to get damage somewhere at some point. Or if you have carry top/jungler, you can just go full tank and be an asshole. I used it in Solo queue with mixed success, but that's generally how solo queue works. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On February 08 2013 22:50 Sermokala wrote: check out the kassadin thread. IBG core Shake loves him some tank kassidin says he hasn't lost yet with it. The problem I'm having with nasus is that I just never feel tanky enough. I got my hecarim jarvan noct trio in the jungle where I just buy omen/warmogs/sunfire/bc/frozen heart and win games. No one builds tank at all in my level (fuck you wukong top players who build just ad and never get any defensive items) so I feel obligated to build into a heavy initiation heavy tank style jungler that nasus simply isn't. i checked the kassadin thread and there's nothing there about IBG kass except for once post suggesting it as 3rd 4th item | ||
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Sermokala
United States14104 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
The only possible reason I can see running tank Kasadin is if you had some sort of wierd comp where you like warded everything and then had some sort of team where you'd just catch and kill anyone not with 5 teammates, and kass would initiate this and hold them in place. I did a bunch of just melee Kass S2, but its much weaker in S3, mostly due to Cutlass getting shit on, which was what allowed him infinite sustain and an actually strong earlish game because it was OP. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On February 08 2013 23:36 AsnSensation wrote: i checked the kassadin thread and there's nothing there about IBG kass except for once post suggesting it as 3rd 4th item Check early T.R.O.L.L.S. It was in the first round of testing. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On February 08 2013 23:56 sob3k wrote: screw IBG Kass, lets talk about IBG Blitz. Support Blitz first item IBG new meta. you cant leave. Build mana and compensate for the mana nerfs, throw out those hooks with reckless abandon. But in reality, I could see it being good, it's just expensive as hell. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On February 09 2013 00:08 onlywonderboy wrote: Build mana and compensate for the mana nerfs, throw out those hooks with reckless abandon. But in reality, I could see it being good, it's just expensive as hell. Nothing's too expensive for Blitz in yolo queue. Always have 20+ assists, never not rape lane. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On February 08 2013 22:50 Alaric wrote: I just saw this, no idea where it comes from, I haven't found it on RoG or Surr@20, but I've asked the guy his source: That's... wow. It probably wouldn't go live, but that's quite the extreme tentative tweak. Pew pew Veigar instantly annihilating waves with a Tear for 6 AP and 240 mana each. This would be terrifying! Also means that Veigar can kind of reset in teamfights and nuke more often. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On February 09 2013 00:12 onlywonderboy wrote: ^Good point, I forgot when people play against Blitz it's like they forget how to play LoL, he's usually banned in my games ha. The weirdest tendency I see is that players frantically juking left and right trying to avoid Ezreal Q, even while Ez is just happily autoing them to death, but the Blitz hook must never be dodged. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On February 09 2013 00:12 onlywonderboy wrote: ^Good point, I forgot when people play against Blitz it's like they forget how to play LoL, he's usually banned in my games ha. Thats only noob lol players. Real high ELO pros know how blitz works, they know it so well that they dont even need to stand behind minons or out of range, they are confident in their pro juking skills. Have you seen that long ass animation on Blitzes Q? Only scrubs cant juke that. Indeed, many of them will dodge well over half of all the hooks, damn shame about the other sixteen. | ||
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Prinate
United States182 Posts
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