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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
February 06 2013 23:04 GMT
#2261
On February 07 2013 07:04 Slayer91 wrote:
IBG gives lots of ap which is basically useless as well I don't think its that good on him really

Dis noob clearly never played AP Nasus in ARAM.
God Bless
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 23:15:07
February 06 2013 23:07 GMT
#2262
Saint is lost trying to find our subforum ;;

Edit: I guess I'll do some jungle nasus before the buffs to determine how justified his upcoming fotm will be.
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 06 2013 23:13 GMT
#2263
Why is Saint trying to find our sub-forum?

OMG HE'S COMING TO STEAL MY NASUS BUILD. NOOOOOOOOOO.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 06 2013 23:15 GMT
#2264
On February 07 2013 08:13 Seuss wrote:
Why is Saint trying to find our sub-forum?

OMG HE'S COMING TO STEAL MY NASUS BUILD. NOOOOOOOOOO.

i heard he was looking for T.R.O.L.L.S. founder.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 06 2013 23:31 GMT
#2265
On February 07 2013 08:00 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 07:44 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On February 07 2013 07:43 misirlou wrote:
On February 07 2013 07:20 cLutZ wrote:


Laning sucks for basically all toplaners with good endgames pre-6, or pre-9 depending on the champ.


Wukong can vouch for that


My poor, poor Irelia says 'sup.


The point is, tradeoffs should be a thing. If Nasus Q becomes spammable (under the assumption of using it to last hit), who is to say he doesn't become a beast at sustain, trading, and zoning?

inb4 Nasus becomes the next Ezreal.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
February 06 2013 23:32 GMT
#2266
doing jungle nasus now tips plz
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 06 2013 23:33 GMT
#2267
Apparently Alex Ich got Vi ulted while recalling, but the Vi ult got cancelled because he managed to teleport to base before Vi reached him.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
February 06 2013 23:39 GMT
#2268
Not being able to find our subforum is a damn shame! A SHAME I SAY. Shame on ye, Liquid of Team!
Retvrn to Forvms
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 23:47:10
February 06 2013 23:40 GMT
#2269
On February 07 2013 07:56 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 07:25 Requizen wrote:
On February 07 2013 07:23 Seuss wrote:
On February 07 2013 07:16 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
But I mean the point is you're gonna be in the middle of their team and if your thought process on IBG vs Triforce is "I'd rather have more single target damage" then I think you're playing Nasus wrong.


For me the choice isn't between IBG and TF, but between IBG and FH. The latter costs 400g less, gives 30 more armor (35 on PBE), 5% more CDR, and has one of the best auras in the game. It's fun have a Sheen-family proc for Q, but ultimately it isn't necessary.

The funny thing is I don't like TF on Nasus either. If I need a damage item I'll build IE now that Q's bonus damage can crit.

Speaking of which, if (some of) the buffs go through, but they remove the Q bonus damage crit (which they ought to), will you run the same build but without the silly crit runes and replacing IE?


No, I'll keep running crit runes and items after they stop being worthwhile on Nasus because obviously flukes will definitely happen again.

That said, I'm not sure Riot will actually bother to fix crit Qs unless someone finds a reliable build to abuse. I've been playing Nasus extensively since we found out about Q crits, and I haven't found the change to be an overwhelming advantage. It's still hard to stack Q in lane due to the CD, pressure from your opponent, and jungle ganks. It's still easy to get kited to death if you try to bum rush squishies. You still can't afford to ignore defensive stats. As frightening as the crit bug sounds, it's not as deadly as you'd think in practice.

Even in games where I sat at 700 bonus damage with LW and IE I wasn't one-shotting people. My hypothetical damage was obviously 2637.5 on a crit Q, but between GA, champion base armor, Aegis etc. the damage shrinks a lot. On top of that you don't have a 100% chance to crit unless you sacrifice a defensive item for SotD, so if you aren't sporting 18% crit from runes you'll only have a 25% chance to hit that big crit.

It'll be the first thing to go if Nasus becomes too strong, but until he becomes FotM, wins too large a % of his games, or finds a build which is decidedly "unfun" I don't think we'll see the crit go away. Maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.


well no shit i did the dps calculations ages ago nasus' q never even comes close to out dpsing a fed AD carry (not to mention being way harder to get Q's off) thats why you go max CDR and tank mostly (cdr increases Q dps by 66.7% total, effectively 40% cdr is equivalent to a 66.7% crit rate without IE). Sure you can get a lucky crit on a squishy without armour but aside from that it's a gimmickyish build
The reason trinity is good on him is because its the best 1 item damage item and between his E armour pen, R bonus AD toward the end of a teamfight and passive lifesteal in a long bruiser fight it helps quite a bit to have trinity and that slow and speed to keep you in range to keep qing, getting the aoe damage from your ult and autoing. VS squishy comps though you basically don't want any damage because you're in trouble enough doing anything but Wing people.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 06 2013 23:41 GMT
#2270
If you have an account League doesn't show up on sidebar but if you don't it does. So whenever I went on campus I never logged in and saw league. Took me maybe 6 months to find the option in profile to have league on sidebar, so freaking confusing.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 06 2013 23:44 GMT
#2271
Am I the only one who gets a janna supp almost every game?Why is this?She is very bad in solo q why would you pick her >.>....
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 06 2013 23:45 GMT
#2272
On February 07 2013 08:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 08:00 cLutZ wrote:
On February 07 2013 07:44 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On February 07 2013 07:43 misirlou wrote:
On February 07 2013 07:20 cLutZ wrote:


Laning sucks for basically all toplaners with good endgames pre-6, or pre-9 depending on the champ.


Wukong can vouch for that


My poor, poor Irelia says 'sup.


The point is, tradeoffs should be a thing. If Nasus Q becomes spammable (under the assumption of using it to last hit), who is to say he doesn't become a beast at sustain, trading, and zoning?

inb4 Nasus becomes the next Ezreal.


Exaggeration, but appreciated.
Freeeeeeedom
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
February 06 2013 23:50 GMT
#2273
On February 07 2013 08:44 nafta wrote:
Am I the only one who gets a janna supp almost every game?Why is this?She is very bad in solo q why would you pick her >.>....


It's because of this video
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 06 2013 23:52 GMT
#2274
On February 07 2013 08:50 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 08:44 nafta wrote:
Am I the only one who gets a janna supp almost every game?Why is this?She is very bad in solo q why would you pick her >.>....


It's because of this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M303IGLWaA


They don't go ap though so not so sure :D.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 06 2013 23:57 GMT
#2275
I think Janna is incredible for soloQ. The only reason she isn't played competitively anymore is because she can't deal with lane swaps at all. iirc she has the second highest winrate for supports on soloQ.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
February 07 2013 00:00 GMT
#2276
So, is landry good for diana ? I never go for the upgrade as I always feel I need something else before (abyssal and zonia mainly) but I don't really know what to think about landru. Is it really worth it ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
February 07 2013 00:03 GMT
#2277
I still think Nasus Q critting has to be OP. It's just too stupid of a thing to not be stupid.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 07 2013 00:05 GMT
#2278
On February 07 2013 08:57 Sufficiency wrote:
I think Janna is incredible for soloQ. The only reason she isn't played competitively anymore is because she can't deal with lane swaps at all. iirc she has the second highest winrate for supports on soloQ.


And if the other guys pick a strong lane how do you not zoned?Like unless I am draven the other lane just zones you super easily from early.Like janna is the only supp other than blitz/soraka that I am happy to see against me lol.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 07 2013 00:05 GMT
#2279
On February 07 2013 09:00 WhiteDog wrote:
So, is landry good for diana ? I never go for the upgrade as I always feel I need something else before (abyssal and zonia mainly) but I don't really know what to think about landru. Is it really worth it ?


I have never tried it but her passive does not proc Liandry's. Go figure.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 00:10:20
February 07 2013 00:08 GMT
#2280
On February 07 2013 09:05 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 08:57 Sufficiency wrote:
I think Janna is incredible for soloQ. The only reason she isn't played competitively anymore is because she can't deal with lane swaps at all. iirc she has the second highest winrate for supports on soloQ.


And if the other guys pick a strong lane how do you not zoned?Like unless I am draven the other lane just zones you super easily from early.Like janna is the only supp other than blitz/soraka that I am happy to see against me lol.


You can definitely win trades with Janna lanes. Fairly easily too. I don't think that's her problem in lane. Her problems are mostly against sustain lanes like Soraka and Sona. Back when Sona was fotm - every time I had to lane against Sona it made me cry because how hard it was - but I think this is no longer an issue.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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