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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
February 06 2013 18:39 GMT
#2181
On February 07 2013 03:34 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 03:33 mordek wrote:
On February 07 2013 03:23 Crownlol wrote:
On February 06 2013 22:35 mordek wrote:
Tried jungle Ali after a long break. Machete 5 pots was a super easy clear... Went ancient golem and mobility boots and it felt awesome. Why is he not in the jungle again?


I was actually wondering this myself- I used to jungle Ali, but there were better alternatives. In the new jungle tho, who knows? However, I often find Ali banned in ranked.

I have yet to see Alistar banned in the last 2 months or so. With Machete and some AP his passive does work. Small wraiths were dying as soon as I used roar after pulverize at level 2. He didn't feel that slow.

The recent-ish nerf to small creeps probably helped him more than a bit.

That's true. I always felt Ali was slower on the buff camps than the small ones back in the day but I may have been doing it wrong/suboptimally. I usually started with AP runes instead of AS which I've seen people do both.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
February 06 2013 18:41 GMT
#2182
On February 07 2013 03:24 Amui wrote:
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On February 07 2013 02:35 Mondeezy wrote:
I've been finding that as I climb up I can rarely go 9-0 in lane or whatever. It seems either they are playing much more passive in lane or I just can't snowball as hard as I do in norms. Hmm...

Edit. Stupid iphone cut me off.


People make fewer mistakes as you go up. The reason you snowball so hard at low level is that both players make huge amounts of mistakes, gold from kills matter a LOT more because you're getting less gold from farm, and people don't play differently until they're vastly behind or ahead.


Yeah, I noticed that as well. When I was in silver my lane opponent tended to stick to one recommended build despite the lane matchup or circumstances, and would still try to trade with me. As I'm approaching plat it seems like they are adjusting builds more and play much more passive.

I kind of like it though, it's teaching me to be more aware of where the jungle is and the lane opponents movements to predict if a Gank is inc. I think the only thing left to do is truly master 3-4 champs that can be picked according to the situation and stop playing overly aggro at risk of dying for "da plays". Right now I'm like 80% w/l with Irelia, but id like to branch out to Jax and a couple of situational picks. My riven/akali is ok, but it's gotten harder to snowball to victory ;_;
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 06 2013 18:41 GMT
#2183
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/180ggl/final_barrage_with_dustin_beck_teamliquid/

Halp my minions~
And actually read the interview while you're at it. :D

ty all.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
February 06 2013 18:49 GMT
#2184
On February 07 2013 03:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On February 07 2013 03:24 MooMooMugi wrote:
Man it really sucks being at 99 points, gotta play 1 more game just to get into your series zzz


Thaaaat blows. I just hit 100 pts this morning. Not sure when I'll be able to get around to my series.

Here's to hoping I get mid/carried in most of them.

Amen blood bruddah
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 18:53:26
February 06 2013 18:50 GMT
#2185
Those fucking "promotion series" are really stressful. Just won a bo3, first game easy, but second was a complete fuck with a 0/7 ez dying bot 4 time in a row in a duel against corki, and people getting in fisticuff here and there on the map for no reasons.

I couldn't refrain my inner lamer from bad mouthing ez, and he even stole my penta at the end. I'm not sure this system was the best way to make people learn how to be chill about the game.

Also nice write up TL writing team as always.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 06 2013 19:07 GMT
#2186
On February 07 2013 03:50 WhiteDog wrote:
Those fucking "promotion series" are really stressful. Just won a bo3, first game easy, but second was a complete fuck with a 0/7 ez dying bot 4 time in a row in a duel against corki, and people getting in fisticuff here and there on the map for no reasons.

I couldn't refrain my inner lamer from bad mouthing ez, and he even stole my penta at the end. I'm not sure this system was the best way to make people learn how to be chill about the game.

It has nothing to do with the format, since before people were stressed about every game for +/- elo and also at the XX00 borders.

What really helped me was to change my attitude from "fuck these guys are feeding and making the game too hard" to "hm I wonder if I can carry my 2/11 bot lane" so that when I do win those games I feel that I really accomplished a lot in the game and definitely have the skill to improve and if I lose then its just that I may be better but not good enough to win that particular one.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 06 2013 19:08 GMT
#2187
On February 07 2013 04:07 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 03:50 WhiteDog wrote:
Those fucking "promotion series" are really stressful. Just won a bo3, first game easy, but second was a complete fuck with a 0/7 ez dying bot 4 time in a row in a duel against corki, and people getting in fisticuff here and there on the map for no reasons.

I couldn't refrain my inner lamer from bad mouthing ez, and he even stole my penta at the end. I'm not sure this system was the best way to make people learn how to be chill about the game.

It has nothing to do with the format, since before people were stressed about every game for +/- elo and also at the XX00 borders.

What really helped me was to change my attitude from "fuck these guys are feeding and making the game too hard" to "hm I wonder if I can carry my 2/11 bot lane" so that when I do win those games I feel that I really accomplished a lot in the game and definitely have the skill to improve and if I lose then its just that I may be better but not good enough to win that particular one.


Always carry in solo q, never not carry.
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
February 06 2013 19:29 GMT
#2188
On February 07 2013 04:07 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 03:50 WhiteDog wrote:
Those fucking "promotion series" are really stressful. Just won a bo3, first game easy, but second was a complete fuck with a 0/7 ez dying bot 4 time in a row in a duel against corki, and people getting in fisticuff here and there on the map for no reasons.

I couldn't refrain my inner lamer from bad mouthing ez, and he even stole my penta at the end. I'm not sure this system was the best way to make people learn how to be chill about the game.

It has nothing to do with the format, since before people were stressed about every game for +/- elo and also at the XX00 borders.

What really helped me was to change my attitude from "fuck these guys are feeding and making the game too hard" to "hm I wonder if I can carry my 2/11 bot lane" so that when I do win those games I feel that I really accomplished a lot in the game and definitely have the skill to improve and if I lose then its just that I may be better but not good enough to win that particular one.

This kind of mental attitude is what makes the difference between good and shitty lol player in my opinion. For exemple, I started playing back in WC2, I have good mechanics and gaming has become like a second nature to me (like most men who started at my age), but I know I'm just bad at lol because no matter what I do, if my team just feed, I tend to stress up, and make bad decisions because I'm just tired at my team.
And the fact that it's a team game makes it easier for me to evade any critic.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 06 2013 19:33 GMT
#2189
On February 07 2013 04:08 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 04:07 xes wrote:
On February 07 2013 03:50 WhiteDog wrote:
Those fucking "promotion series" are really stressful. Just won a bo3, first game easy, but second was a complete fuck with a 0/7 ez dying bot 4 time in a row in a duel against corki, and people getting in fisticuff here and there on the map for no reasons.

I couldn't refrain my inner lamer from bad mouthing ez, and he even stole my penta at the end. I'm not sure this system was the best way to make people learn how to be chill about the game.

It has nothing to do with the format, since before people were stressed about every game for +/- elo and also at the XX00 borders.

What really helped me was to change my attitude from "fuck these guys are feeding and making the game too hard" to "hm I wonder if I can carry my 2/11 bot lane" so that when I do win those games I feel that I really accomplished a lot in the game and definitely have the skill to improve and if I lose then its just that I may be better but not good enough to win that particular one.


Always carry in solo q, never not carry.


But I main support!! how carry? wut do?

+ Show Spoiler +
No, I'm not actually starting this discussion again. I'm just bad lol. Support carrying hard as shit. + Show Spoiler +
Unless you play secret AD Thresh huehuehue
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 19:37:19
February 06 2013 19:36 GMT
#2190
On February 07 2013 04:33 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 04:08 NeoIllusions wrote:
On February 07 2013 04:07 xes wrote:
On February 07 2013 03:50 WhiteDog wrote:
Those fucking "promotion series" are really stressful. Just won a bo3, first game easy, but second was a complete fuck with a 0/7 ez dying bot 4 time in a row in a duel against corki, and people getting in fisticuff here and there on the map for no reasons.

I couldn't refrain my inner lamer from bad mouthing ez, and he even stole my penta at the end. I'm not sure this system was the best way to make people learn how to be chill about the game.

It has nothing to do with the format, since before people were stressed about every game for +/- elo and also at the XX00 borders.

What really helped me was to change my attitude from "fuck these guys are feeding and making the game too hard" to "hm I wonder if I can carry my 2/11 bot lane" so that when I do win those games I feel that I really accomplished a lot in the game and definitely have the skill to improve and if I lose then its just that I may be better but not good enough to win that particular one.


Always carry in solo q, never not carry.


But I main support!! how carry? wut do?

+ Show Spoiler +
No, I'm not actually starting this discussion again. I'm just bad lol. Support carrying hard as shit. + Show Spoiler +
Unless you play secret AD Thresh huehuehue


Play Sona steal all the kills

Or support j4, always Demacia never care
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
February 06 2013 19:37 GMT
#2191
On February 07 2013 02:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 02:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:17 zodde wrote:
On February 07 2013 01:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 07 2013 01:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So why did I ever stop playing Annie? I'm not sure if its the S3 changes, but I've been doing really really well with her the last few days.



if you're really interested in annie, check out my build/set up on the account Reindeer

80 winrate over 20 games hue


Mind sharing? I'm EU so I don't think I can check you out in the client (or can I?).


http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/517393#profile

played her last game so just go to active masteries/runes.

as a note, I would take MR over AP vs lanes like leblanc


Eh, I've entertained the style of AD base set up for Annie, but I know what I'm good at. I excel at zone control, full burst mages, and I'm pretty shit at everything else.



what? I don't run any AD.


Well then lolking lied to me. I'll check when I get home.


as I recall the patented TL method to annie is running crit chance reds
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 06 2013 19:39 GMT
#2192
On February 07 2013 04:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 02:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:17 zodde wrote:
On February 07 2013 01:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 07 2013 01:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So why did I ever stop playing Annie? I'm not sure if its the S3 changes, but I've been doing really really well with her the last few days.



if you're really interested in annie, check out my build/set up on the account Reindeer

80 winrate over 20 games hue


Mind sharing? I'm EU so I don't think I can check you out in the client (or can I?).


http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/517393#profile

played her last game so just go to active masteries/runes.

as a note, I would take MR over AP vs lanes like leblanc


Eh, I've entertained the style of AD base set up for Annie, but I know what I'm good at. I excel at zone control, full burst mages, and I'm pretty shit at everything else.



what? I don't run any AD.


Well then lolking lied to me. I'll check when I get home.


as I recall the patented TL method to annie is running crit chance reds

Goddamnit I played WoW for too long. I thought you were being serious and I was like "Yeah, why don't burst casters stack Crit?".
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 06 2013 19:40 GMT
#2193
We had a dc from MF early on during a game today, we ended up with a Battle Sona after she last hit a few champs during ganks/ambushes. She also played clean-up crew in one or two fights. Sorcs abyssal grail stronk when everyone's at 300 HP after raidboss Olaf gets taken down.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 06 2013 19:41 GMT
#2194
On February 07 2013 04:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 02:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:17 zodde wrote:
On February 07 2013 01:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 07 2013 01:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So why did I ever stop playing Annie? I'm not sure if its the S3 changes, but I've been doing really really well with her the last few days.



if you're really interested in annie, check out my build/set up on the account Reindeer

80 winrate over 20 games hue


Mind sharing? I'm EU so I don't think I can check you out in the client (or can I?).


http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/517393#profile

played her last game so just go to active masteries/runes.

as a note, I would take MR over AP vs lanes like leblanc


Eh, I've entertained the style of AD base set up for Annie, but I know what I'm good at. I excel at zone control, full burst mages, and I'm pretty shit at everything else.



what? I don't run any AD.


Well then lolking lied to me. I'll check when I get home.


as I recall the patented TL method to annie is running crit chance reds

bad USnip...
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 06 2013 19:42 GMT
#2195
why worry about promotion series.

Your elo acts like a magnet and your placement will home in to where you belong according to elo.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 06 2013 19:45 GMT
#2196
On February 07 2013 04:42 LaNague wrote:
why worry about promotion series.

Your elo acts like a magnet and your placement will home in to where you belong according to elo.


Cuz after getting screwed into gold 1 when new system came out, my current series will let me into plat. Once I'm there I don't care, cuz chances are very high I won't make diamond.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 06 2013 19:47 GMT
#2197
On February 07 2013 04:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 04:42 LaNague wrote:
why worry about promotion series.

Your elo acts like a magnet and your placement will home in to where you belong according to elo.


Cuz after getting screwed into gold 1 when new system came out, my current series will let me into plat. Once I'm there I don't care, cuz chances are very high I won't make diamond.

Way to set the bar low, slacker.
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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
February 06 2013 19:55 GMT
#2198
On February 07 2013 04:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 04:42 LaNague wrote:
why worry about promotion series.

Your elo acts like a magnet and your placement will home in to where you belong according to elo.


Cuz after getting screwed into gold 1 when new system came out, my current series will let me into plat. Once I'm there I don't care, cuz chances are very high I won't make diamond.


Well not with that attitude mister.
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GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
February 06 2013 19:59 GMT
#2199
What do you guys think of graves ?

I REALLY love him right now, he makes me wanna play ADC main, he is fairly tanky, has a steroid and a good waveclear, and an insane burst at lvl6 in lane.

Imo I'm having a breeze laning, and in teamfights I'm always useful even if it's only smokescreen.
I really think it's easy to stomp lane phase with him though, his passive makes him really good and you can go balls to the walls with your dash if your support feels like hard engaging

Honestly my CS with him thus far has been really good ( two games of 40 and 49 minutes where I got 275 and 325 and a 20:00 game where I was at 13-1-2 and 120 CS ), I feel his only problems are lack of AS before I get phantom dancer, and his range being lackluster.

Why isn't he picked more ? I can totally see him ruining a MF sona or an Ezreal lane, because of his burst and tankiness, put him with leona or taric and you can just shit on the ennemy bot lane. I really don't think you could play anything that isn't tanky with him when you're support, so that's also a drawback
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DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
February 06 2013 20:02 GMT
#2200
On February 07 2013 04:59 GregMandel wrote:
What do you guys think of graves ?

I REALLY love him right now, he makes me wanna play ADC main, he is fairly tanky, has a steroid and a good waveclear, and an insane burst at lvl6 in lane.

Imo I'm having a breeze laning, and in teamfights I'm always useful even if it's only smokescreen.
I really think it's easy to stomp lane phase with him though, his passive makes him really good and you can go balls to the walls with your dash if your support feels like hard engaging

Honestly my CS with him thus far has been really good ( two games of 40 and 49 minutes where I got 275 and 325 and a 20:00 game where I was at 13-1-2 and 120 CS ), I feel his only problems are lack of AS before I get phantom dancer, and his range being lackluster.

Why isn't he picked more ? I can totally see him ruining a MF sona or an Ezreal lane, because of his burst and tankiness, put him with leona or taric and you can just shit on the ennemy bot lane. I really don't think you could play anything that isn't tanky with him when you're support, so that's also a drawback


also smoke screen is OP. I like playing him and find him pretty good. MF still #1
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