EPTPersonally I think CDR is a little overated on Olaf at this point- people get armor really late and if you get a black cleaver, you're doing near true damage against most people's base armor. So just building more damage is really good too.
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Personally I think CDR is a little overated on Olaf at this point- people get armor really late and if you get a black cleaver, you're doing near true damage against most people's base armor. So just building more damage is really good too. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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BlasiuS
United States2405 Posts
On January 23 2013 00:48 samthesaluki wrote: What part of s3 helped olaf and whats a good build learning him atm for tourney
Build: Warmog/BC/Locket/SV/furor boots runes: armor or scaling health yellow, MR or scaling MR blue, combination of AD/armor pen marks/quints masteries: 9/21/0 taking weapon expertise in offense Skills: Max E > Q > W against champs that have to get within range of E to last hit/harass/trade, Q > E > W against everyone else | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On January 23 2013 02:22 BlasiuS wrote:
Build: Warmog/BC/Locket/SV/furor boots runes: armor or scaling health yellow, MR or scaling MR blue, combination of AD/armor pen marks/quints masteries: 9/21/0 taking weapon expertise in offense Skills: Max E > Q > W against champs that have to get within range of E to last hit/harass/trade, Q > E > W against everyone else You don't really have to build any dmg items on Olaf at all. His base damage is usually enough to kill the carry. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 23 2013 02:01 MattBarry wrote: Yeah I doubted the voyboy build. "Wow I'll do no damage" I said to myself. Several quadra kills later I learned the extent of how broken katarina is after trying it out It's an interesting concept. Rather than forcing the reset by doing tons of initial damage, voyboy's build is based on living long enough so that he will invariably get the reset, and then continue to do a lot of damage. | ||
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BlasiuS
United States2405 Posts
On January 23 2013 02:25 Doctorbeat wrote: You don't really have to build any dmg items on Olaf at all. His base damage is usually enough to kill the carry. If BC only gave damage, sure. But it doesn't only give damage, it also gives health + CDR, the 2 most important stats for olaf. | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 23 2013 01:50 zer0das wrote: I've been going Sunfire Cape/Warmogs into Black Cleaver/Bloodthirster. I would follow up with CDR, but the game usually ends before then. Olaf is really strong because there's such a high incentive to build health (which benefits his w), his ult gives free armor penetration (which hasn't been lowered to compensate for the season 3 changes... yet), and the active part of the ult gives free resistances. Personally I think CDR is a little overated on Olaf at this point- people get armor really late and if you get a black cleaver, you're doing near true damage against most people's base armor. So just building more damage is really good too. You get the CDR to spam his mana-less true damage spell that ignores armor anyway, I wouldn't say that's overrated. If you build tank/CDR you can dive in and blow up a squishy and survive, as opposed to building damage where diving is much riskier and your burst isn't as strong. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14155 Posts
On January 23 2013 00:48 samthesaluki wrote: What part of s3 helped olaf and whats a good build learning him atm for tourney Warmogs rushing. Ask your jungler to give you his blue if you're on the bottom side if the map. Blue axe spam is what can win you the lane with no ganks ever again. Idk I liked a bruta first into kindel into warmogs bc omen shurelias SV build in lanes that were easy. If its a hard lane just warmogs first and you can't lose. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On January 23 2013 02:51 De4ngus wrote: why is it voyboys build lol You just mad it's not Gandhi's build. Who the fuck cares what it's called? | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 23 2013 02:51 De4ngus wrote: why is it voyboys build lol He was just the player most people saw build tank-Kat first. At least in terms of the NA pro scene he popularized the build. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On January 23 2013 02:59 onlywonderboy wrote: You get the CDR to spam his mana-less true damage spell that ignores armor anyway, I wouldn't say that's overrated. If you build tank/CDR you can dive in and blow up a squishy and survive, as opposed to building damage where diving is much riskier and your burst isn't as strong. That's not even the only thing that CDR is giving you. You're also getting ~1 second cooldown Axe throws (PHYSICAL damage, so black cleaver is perfectly happy with that) because of the -6 sec when you pick up the axe. When you have 40% CDR, your axe comes off cooldown the instant you pick it up. Your W - a Lifesteal-Spellvamp-AD steroid is up over 80% of the time (6 seconds on, 1.2 seconds off.) Cooldown rocks, and it's not just for his Reckless Swing. I don't think you need the BT - get a CDR item instead. The fact that your ADVampLS steroid is up more often will make up for the missing BT and you can pick up a Glacial Shroud-based item (I prefer FH of the two) or a Spirit Visage. Toss in CDR boots or Shurelias. Cleaver is fine, though. No problems with brutalizer/cleaver on Olaf. It's all the offensive stats he wants, plus some HP. Locket > Sunfire Cape IMO too. Similar primary stats (Armor + Health), cheaper, better build flow for olaf (KINDLEGEM!) and some regen (no complaints) and a really nice active. Besides, Olaf needs no help pushing waves, and nobody lives long enough for the sunfire damage to really have a long time to work (he's pretty bursty, as bruisers go.) Compare to Shen, who loves the sunfire cape because it gives him what he's missing (waveclear) but also enhances the way he fights (never die, whittle them down) | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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samthesaluki
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On January 23 2013 03:33 TheYango wrote: Practically speaking, if you're getting a non-defensive/CDR damage item on Olaf, it should be Triforce, not Bloodthirster. Isn't ghostblade really good too?I saw an olaf today go oldschool shur/randuin/warmog/ghostblade and he just 1v4-d and still got ad in a few fights. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On January 23 2013 01:50 zer0das wrote: Compare to Shen, who loves the sunfire cape because it gives him what he's missing (waveclear) but also enhances the way he fights (never die, whittle them down) Pretty solid on Singed too. I played as Singed yesterday and built Rod/Rylai's/Sunfire/Banshee's/Abyssal and people were absolutely hating it. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 23 2013 03:13 sylverfyre wrote: That's not even the only thing that CDR is giving you. You're also getting ~1 second cooldown Axe throws (PHYSICAL damage, so black cleaver is perfectly happy with that) because of the -6 sec when you pick up the axe. Olaf's Axe reset was nerfed to be -4.5sec. I only realised this lately too ;/ | ||
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