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The combo was pretty hard... (I was surprised that Kog had almost as much magical damage than physical damage, in the "dealt to champions" part; well, he had Shiv, too) HP is better to get than armour because it's cheaper, but Kog inflicts %maxHP magical damage. So do I get MR? But then I'm not that protected against Xerath, since he ignores a high % of it (he even built abyssal... ), whose combo I'm better off building HP for.
Armour? Kog has a LW.
Also notice that it was a 6 items Kog against a mostly 4 items Vi. I was often behind him (troll support massing AP on Nid and stealing kills with spears, even when 100% secured, so I didn't get much gold from the fights I got in) from up to 2 items. In the midgame I think I could have killed him 1v1 (because ult+Q against his only defense which is a slow), but it was the endgame scaling that got me (also his shred is more powerful than mine, even though he only had a warmogs for defense). That was the same in s2 against most AD carries.
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United States23745 Posts
On January 22 2013 14:43 Alaric wrote:
The combo was pretty hard... (I was surprised that Kog had almost as much magical damage than physical damage, in the "dealt to champions" part; well, he had Shiv, too) HP is better to get than armour because it's cheaper, but Kog inflicts %maxHP magical damage. So do I get MR? But then I'm not that protected against Xerath, since he ignores a high % of it (he even built abyssal... ), whose combo I'm better off building HP for.
Armour? Kog has a LW.
Also notice that it was a 6 items Kog against a mostly 4 items Vi. I was often behind him (troll support massing AP on Nid and stealing kills with spears, even when 100% secured, so I didn't get much gold from the fights I got in) from up to 2 items. In the midgame I think I could have killed him 1v1 (because ult+Q against his only defense which is a slow), but it was the endgame scaling that got me (also his shred is more powerful than mine, even though he only had a warmogs for defense). That was the same in s2 against most AD carries.
Yeah, the fact that Kog is one of the scariest 6 item champs in the game certainly didn't help your cause.
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Yeah, I just finished a game as Vi with Razor's/Phage/MoBo/Mogs/Zephyr. Always dive, never not dive and do a billion damage. Then again, between first blood and the proest leash I have ever gotten my first back was phage/boots so I was already off to a very nice start.
Thanks for the stinger Vi suggestion, without a doubt superior to Brutalizer on her. Then it just becomes when, if ever, do I buy BC? XD
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OK, heres my idea
all da champs have 3 skills and an ult, and then there are ones with like no ult, and the ones with a bunch skills and no ult.
so then how about new innovative idea:
New Champ. 4 ults, no skills. He is like useless average man who run around and punch with his fists. Then every 100 seconds he can alpha strike like nuclear submarine and fly across map and also summon volcano.
hire me plz roit
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What do you guys think of Janna support nowadays? I keep thinking in my head that with all these diving bruisers, that Janna would be a great support in late team fights as a peeling machine. Q, W, and R are all fantastic ways of helping your AD out of trouble, and R is an instant cast that also doubles as a slight heal.
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On January 22 2013 14:54 Gahlo wrote:
Yeah, I just finished a game as Vi with Razor's/Phage/MoBo/Mogs/Zephyr. Always dive, never not dive and do a billion damage. Then again, between first blood and the proest leash I have ever gotten my first back was phage/boots so I was already off to a very nice start.
Thanks for the stinger Vi suggestion, without a doubt superior to Brutalizer on her. Then it just becomes when, if ever, do I buy BC? XD
Since the armour reduction from BC is pretty fine with her W, but works better whenever the enemy's armour is higher (unless the flat ArPen lets you do true damage hue) I'd be against finishing BC first, if at all. After bruta, if you want defense, build some defensive stuff, if you want offense, get some more cost-efficient AD, then finish BC once they get tankier (either from items or levels) and the fights are actually somewhat drawn-out rather than bursty.
^ I like Janna but I guess with all the instant gapclosers and burst she isn't as good as she used to be (mobility creep yay) and her laning phase isn't as strong as Lulu's or Sona's. She also isn't as good offensively and with teams playing more aggressive than protective I guess she just has less synergy than she used to.
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On January 22 2013 14:56 Nos- wrote:
What do you guys think of Janna support nowadays? I keep thinking in my head that with all these diving bruisers, that Janna would be a great support in late team fights as a peeling machine. Q, W, and R are all fantastic ways of helping your AD out of trouble, and R is an instant cast that also doubles as a slight heal.
Been enjoying Morg for those same reasons. Her peel is Janna-level but you can also make your lane turn into a kill-fest if you hit some great binds. Plus with all these melee assassins jumping around raping shit, your shield usually sticks around to eat all the CC, and not just get blown off with one AP nuke as it usually does. All around fun shit.
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On January 22 2013 15:00 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 14:54 Gahlo wrote:
Yeah, I just finished a game as Vi with Razor's/Phage/MoBo/Mogs/Zephyr. Always dive, never not dive and do a billion damage. Then again, between first blood and the proest leash I have ever gotten my first back was phage/boots so I was already off to a very nice start.
Thanks for the stinger Vi suggestion, without a doubt superior to Brutalizer on her. Then it just becomes when, if ever, do I buy BC? XD Since the armour reduction from BC is pretty fine with her W, but works better whenever the enemy's armour is higher (unless the flat ArPen lets you do true damage hue) I'd be against finishing BC first, if at all. After bruta, if you want defense, build some defensive stuff, if you want offense, get some more cost-efficient AD, then finish BC once they get tankier (either from items or levels) and the fights are actually somewhat drawn-out rather than bursty. ^ I like Janna but I guess with all the instant gapclosers and burst she isn't as good as she used to be (mobility creep yay) and her laning phase isn't as strong as Lulu's or Sona's. She also isn't as good offensively and with teams playing more aggressive than protective I guess she just has less synergy than she used to.
I've been toying around with options with the Stinger core, so BC was going to be delayed for quite a while. Still, it was the fastest 11k I've ever gotten in the jungle, I think. I saw the it was suggested Stinger => Phage but I'm too cc greedy. I guess it is because of how long I spent with Shyvanna as as my main jungler.
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On January 22 2013 06:25 Seuss wrote:Re: bly As far as I can tell bly posted something stupid, got corrected, tacitly admitted fault by his third post, everything was fine, but now it's a three-way shitfest between Roffles, gtr, and bly because none of them can admit being wrong to each other ever. This is like a bad family reunion. All it needs is the marble cake that dried up in the sun and that second cousin once removed who's totally hot but it's all awkward because you're family and you don't live in a place where that's acceptable. Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 06:17 smOOthMayDie wrote:
What's everyones opinion on Akali? I picked her up recently and am absolutely crushing with her! I've played 24 games with her in ranked and I'm sitting at a 70% WR (17-7). Got my first penta kill with her today too!! Just seems like she does SO much damage, even on tanky targets. She does the damages, all the damages. What have you been building? I tried to teach Soniv the way of the ninja with Gunblade, DFG and Lichbane but he kept ulting directly into Zyra roots and knockup.
Not going to join in on the shitfest but honestly, Roffles has a god awful personality if I can manage to remember him from the maplestory thread. Since I'm not involved in TL much, I dont remember people here much but this guy was/is such a d-bag that I'm not surprised people fight with him all the time. And if random people on internet forum who is barely active can remember you from your bad personality, people irl must think you are anything but amicable. Just my 2 cents.
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That was seven pages ago, we have moved on. o.o
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On January 22 2013 14:55 sob3k wrote:
OK, heres my idea
all da champs have 3 skills and an ult, and then there are ones with like no ult, and the ones with a bunch skills and no ult.
so then how about new innovative idea:
New Champ. 4 ults, no skills. He is like useless average man who run around and punch with his fists. Then every 100 seconds he can alpha strike like nuclear submarine and fly across map and also summon volcano.
hire me plz roit
sounds like a new support to me
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On January 22 2013 05:48 MoonBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 05:39 Alaric wrote:But normals are the only place where you can play Malphite or Shen. :< On January 22 2013 05:36 MoonBear wrote:On January 22 2013 05:35 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
after looking at all 4 gambit gaming games, i think people should pick jarvan+taric or maokai more often against them CLG beat M5 with Maokai at IPL5 iirc. Good pick, agree. Why Jarvan+Taric combo though? Flag+Shatter combo gives something like 52 armour at max level. Throw in an aegis for good measure, and a locket just to fuck up any burst combo. Hm. Wasn't GG's comp involving a lot of % based reduction too? http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16xlt4/the_reason_gbgm5_picked_renekton/
it's not wrong to build armor against stacked up penetration on an opponents' team, as long as their damage is mostly of one type. in this case having extra armor from jarvan+taric frees up your champs to build more damage / HP. can't be bad.
for maokai, it stops the all-in dives / prolonged chases that GBG enjoys
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On January 22 2013 15:24 GhostOwl wrote:
Not going to join in on the shitfest but honestly, Roffles has a god awful personality if I can manage to remember him from the maplestory thread. Since I'm not involved in TL much, I dont remember people here much but this guy was/is such a d-bag that I'm not surprised people fight with him all the time. And if random people on internet forum who is barely active can remember you from your bad personality, people irl must think you are anything but amicable. Just my 2 cents.
> Starts post with "Not going to join in"
> Joins in
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On January 22 2013 15:24 GhostOwl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 06:25 Seuss wrote:Re: bly As far as I can tell bly posted something stupid, got corrected, tacitly admitted fault by his third post, everything was fine, but now it's a three-way shitfest between Roffles, gtr, and bly because none of them can admit being wrong to each other ever. This is like a bad family reunion. All it needs is the marble cake that dried up in the sun and that second cousin once removed who's totally hot but it's all awkward because you're family and you don't live in a place where that's acceptable. On January 22 2013 06:17 smOOthMayDie wrote:
What's everyones opinion on Akali? I picked her up recently and am absolutely crushing with her! I've played 24 games with her in ranked and I'm sitting at a 70% WR (17-7). Got my first penta kill with her today too!! Just seems like she does SO much damage, even on tanky targets. She does the damages, all the damages. What have you been building? I tried to teach Soniv the way of the ninja with Gunblade, DFG and Lichbane but he kept ulting directly into Zyra roots and knockup. Not going to join in on the shitfest but honestly, Roffles has a god awful personality if I can manage to remember him from the maplestory thread. Since I'm not involved in TL much, I dont remember people here much but this guy was/is such a d-bag that I'm not surprised people fight with him all the time. And if random people on internet forum who is barely active can remember you from your bad personality, people irl must think you are anything but amicable. Just my 2 cents.
Saying Roffles is a jerk isn't news to anyone. People have just gotten used to it, really.
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On January 22 2013 15:14 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 15:00 Alaric wrote:On January 22 2013 14:54 Gahlo wrote:
Yeah, I just finished a game as Vi with Razor's/Phage/MoBo/Mogs/Zephyr. Always dive, never not dive and do a billion damage. Then again, between first blood and the proest leash I have ever gotten my first back was phage/boots so I was already off to a very nice start.
Thanks for the stinger Vi suggestion, without a doubt superior to Brutalizer on her. Then it just becomes when, if ever, do I buy BC? XD Since the armour reduction from BC is pretty fine with her W, but works better whenever the enemy's armour is higher (unless the flat ArPen lets you do true damage hue) I'd be against finishing BC first, if at all. After bruta, if you want defense, build some defensive stuff, if you want offense, get some more cost-efficient AD, then finish BC once they get tankier (either from items or levels) and the fights are actually somewhat drawn-out rather than bursty. ^ I like Janna but I guess with all the instant gapclosers and burst she isn't as good as she used to be (mobility creep yay) and her laning phase isn't as strong as Lulu's or Sona's. She also isn't as good offensively and with teams playing more aggressive than protective I guess she just has less synergy than she used to. I've been toying around with options with the Stinger core, so BC was going to be delayed for quite a while. Still, it was the fastest 11k I've ever gotten in the jungle, I think. I saw the it was suggested Stinger => Phage but I'm too cc greedy. I guess it is because of how long I spent with Shyvanna as as my main jungler.
I don't like being squishy so phage good mix of offensive and defensive stats to me. I usually play like I don't have the slow anyway, it's too frustrating not to get it off in 3-4 hits and let the enemy run at 100 HP. :<
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
My mother taught me to never tell lies.
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I really want a whole thread dedicated to people just throwing personal insults at one another
and not just to keep it out of GD, either. I'd pay money to watch gtr vs bly vs roffles.
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On January 22 2013 13:14 ChaoSbringer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 13:09 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Why are there no black champions in league of legends? Because there isn't a climate hot enough that would necessitate the evolution of darkened of skin pigments.
Small note, this is completely backwards (in terms of applying historical evolution).
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Baa?21245 Posts
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On January 22 2013 16:00 Eiii wrote:
I really want a whole thread dedicated to people just throwing personal insults at one another
and not just to keep it out of GD, either. I'd pay money to watch gtr vs bly vs roffles.
YA EXACTLY
On January 22 2013 16:04 TheHumanSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 13:14 ChaoSbringer wrote:On January 22 2013 13:09 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Why are there no black champions in league of legends? Because there isn't a climate hot enough that would necessitate the evolution of darkened of skin pigments. Small note, this is completely backwards (in terms of applying historical evolution).
It's not really backwards, just need to replace "evolution" with "selection."
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On January 22 2013 15:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 15:24 GhostOwl wrote:On January 22 2013 06:25 Seuss wrote:Re: bly As far as I can tell bly posted something stupid, got corrected, tacitly admitted fault by his third post, everything was fine, but now it's a three-way shitfest between Roffles, gtr, and bly because none of them can admit being wrong to each other ever. This is like a bad family reunion. All it needs is the marble cake that dried up in the sun and that second cousin once removed who's totally hot but it's all awkward because you're family and you don't live in a place where that's acceptable. On January 22 2013 06:17 smOOthMayDie wrote:
What's everyones opinion on Akali? I picked her up recently and am absolutely crushing with her! I've played 24 games with her in ranked and I'm sitting at a 70% WR (17-7). Got my first penta kill with her today too!! Just seems like she does SO much damage, even on tanky targets. She does the damages, all the damages. What have you been building? I tried to teach Soniv the way of the ninja with Gunblade, DFG and Lichbane but he kept ulting directly into Zyra roots and knockup. Not going to join in on the shitfest but honestly, Roffles has a god awful personality if I can manage to remember him from the maplestory thread. Since I'm not involved in TL much, I dont remember people here much but this guy was/is such a d-bag that I'm not surprised people fight with him all the time. And if random people on internet forum who is barely active can remember you from your bad personality, people irl must think you are anything but amicable. Just my 2 cents. Saying Roffles is a jerk isn't news to anyone. People have just gotten used to it, really.
You guys are kind of dense aren't you? It should be clear to anyone that Roffles is just the most extreme case of Tsundere to be found on the internet. The guy is absolutely hilarious.
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