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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 22 2013 07:14 GMT
#1701
I didn't know people actually took what Roffles had to say, seriously... (much less what anyone on the internet had to say).
liftlift > tsm
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 07:20:08
January 22 2013 07:17 GMT
#1702
Why are people still argueing with each other?

Mod said to stop it and take it to PMs.

Still going strong 8pages later.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 07:22:50
January 22 2013 07:22 GMT
#1703
There are a lot of people who enjoy the bloodsport that is shit-flinging in TL LoL GD; unfortunately, others feel it to be a distracting derailing of pertinent discussions of theorycraft and professional players' solo queue (mis?)adventures.

I would like to once again call attention to my suggestion of a dedicated thread, in which fans of this sort of thing can indulge and from which detractors have full freedom to avoid.
TranslatorBaa!
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
January 22 2013 07:23 GMT
#1704
On January 22 2013 16:22 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
There are a lot of people who enjoy the bloodsport that is shit-flinging in TL LoL GD; unfortunately, others feel it to be a distracting derailing of pertinent discussions of theorycraft and professional players' solo queue (mis?)adventures.

I would like to once again call attention to my suggestion of a dedicated thread, in which fans of this sort of thing can indulge and from which detractors have full freedom to avoid.


Pm Neo :3 Its a good idea
Useless wet fish.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 22 2013 07:28 GMT
#1705
I give that a zero percent chance of working, why not just ban ppl who do it

you know

like they're supposed to
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 22 2013 07:30 GMT
#1706
On January 22 2013 09:39 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 07:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Can we have a "Real Talk" thread where people just periodically go and post what they really think about each other in the subforum? :3

GD wouldn't get cluttered/derailed, and we can organize all the drama in one neat little thread.


We had a drama thread. And a "who's got the biggest e-peen" thread. Both got closed within like 36 hours of their creation.


So yeah. Probably best for everyone to just ignore it, report it, and move on at this point.

I'll start. Why is Dominion literally the worst thing Riot has ever farted out? It's like they didn't even try.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
January 22 2013 07:53 GMT
#1707
The worst thing? Surely Sejuani is worse...
KCCO!
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 22 2013 08:00 GMT
#1708
On January 22 2013 16:28 UniversalSnip wrote:
I give that a zero percent chance of working, why not just ban ppl who do it

you know

like they're supposed to


then we wouldn't get to watch, duh
:3
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 22 2013 08:00 GMT
#1709
On January 22 2013 16:53 ihasaKAROT wrote:
The worst thing? Surely Sejuani is worse...

Sejuani's not a poor concept, they just never got her numbers right.
Moderator
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 22 2013 08:05 GMT
#1710
something i noticed is that there is no secret knowledge to jungling, the people who are progamers compared to just regular high elo or lower tier junglers is simply that the pros are better at the same stuff. From judging gank potential, to awareness, to planning, and overall decision making, etc.
LightRailCoyote
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States982 Posts
January 22 2013 08:12 GMT
#1711
On January 22 2013 17:05 zulu_nation8 wrote:
something i noticed is that there is no secret knowledge to jungling, the people who are progamers compared to just regular high elo or lower tier junglers is simply that the pros are better at the same stuff. From judging gank potential, to awareness, to planning, and overall decision making, etc.


My question to you is then:
A) What are the pieces of information viewers consider "secret" that really isn't?

B) Is there any real "secret knowledge" for other roles that one might be able to find on streams but not on their own? Only thing I can think of are leona/nidalee secret passive type things.
AKA SurfSolar ----- This is the product of a DIY inadequate home
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 22 2013 08:16 GMT
#1712
On January 22 2013 16:30 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 09:39 overt wrote:
On January 22 2013 07:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Can we have a "Real Talk" thread where people just periodically go and post what they really think about each other in the subforum? :3

GD wouldn't get cluttered/derailed, and we can organize all the drama in one neat little thread.


We had a drama thread. And a "who's got the biggest e-peen" thread. Both got closed within like 36 hours of their creation.


So yeah. Probably best for everyone to just ignore it, report it, and move on at this point.

I'll start. Why is Dominion literally the worst thing Riot has ever farted out? It's like they didn't even try.


it makes me wonder how the game's core concepts would have turned out if the designers didn't feel like they could lean on dota.

dominion is basically the new player's experience of playing the game turned into a ruleset.

- noobies don't have a sense of clear objectives, dominion's objective setting sucks
- noobies don't shut out opponents in lanes or farm properly so basically people end up pretty similar strength regardless of how the early game goes. in dominion the gold and xp is ambient
- noobies don't position or use walls properly. in dominion all the combat areas are huge, flat plains so it really doesn't matter where you're standing, just how far you are from your opponents
- noobies don't close out games, in dominion the timers fight you if you are ahead!
- noobies don't time anything, there is pretty much nothing worth timing on dominion
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
January 22 2013 08:22 GMT
#1713
Hey I almost exclusivly play dominion. It is fast and fun.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 22 2013 08:26 GMT
#1714
1hour 30 minutes Najin Shield vs. GSG in the semi-finals of the NLB Winter League!

tune in www.nicegame.tv
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 22 2013 08:29 GMT
#1715
On January 22 2013 17:12 LightRailCoyote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 17:05 zulu_nation8 wrote:
something i noticed is that there is no secret knowledge to jungling, the people who are progamers compared to just regular high elo or lower tier junglers is simply that the pros are better at the same stuff. From judging gank potential, to awareness, to planning, and overall decision making, etc.


My question to you is then:
A) What are the pieces of information viewers consider "secret" that really isn't?

B) Is there any real "secret knowledge" for other roles that one might be able to find on streams but not on their own? Only thing I can think of are leona/nidalee secret passive type things.


A) Just things people dont know but would if someone just said it or if they experience it themselves. For example today I learned that if you go steal an amumu's blue, he can start red with good leash, do your blue with smite and get away way before you get there. Or even more basic stuff like which junglers are gonna finish red at what timing, and how low, etc

B) I don't consider mechanics secrets really secret because they dont come into play most of the time. Much more useful is knowledge of like, whether or not you can trade with someone at a certain level. You can find out from experience but streams can also tell you.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 08:52:42
January 22 2013 08:51 GMT
#1716
On January 22 2013 17:12 LightRailCoyote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 17:05 zulu_nation8 wrote:
something i noticed is that there is no secret knowledge to jungling, the people who are progamers compared to just regular high elo or lower tier junglers is simply that the pros are better at the same stuff. From judging gank potential, to awareness, to planning, and overall decision making, etc.


My question to you is then:
A) What are the pieces of information viewers consider "secret" that really isn't?

B) Is there any real "secret knowledge" for other roles that one might be able to find on streams but not on their own? Only thing I can think of are leona/nidalee secret passive type things.


A. Lot's of things. Very dependant on what you know already.

B. Certain timings where X champ is stronger than Y champ. For example I learned off Wickd's stream that from level 4-5 Irelia vs Darius you win if his Q is on CD. You must allin then if you want to kill him/force him back so you can push with ulti and base safely, if not you'll be stuck being bullied from 6 onwards because he's so much stronger at all-in's.That was something I figured out from watching how he played the matchup. Often times these things come naturally to the highest level players because they figure out a champion's kit and how it matches up, but to lower level players it's not as apparent.

Also how the higher level players push advantages. That's something that lower level people have huge trouble with. They don't know how to translate winning lane into winning game.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 22 2013 09:41 GMT
#1717
20 minutes till GSG, GSG!!!
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
January 22 2013 10:02 GMT
#1718
GSG the scourge of Korea
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11991 Posts
January 22 2013 10:28 GMT
#1719
I don't understand how taric is supposed to work. Everyone tells you he is absurdly strong in lane. But then i stun something, do my full combo on it, and it does no damage whatsoever. I have a heal that eats my mana and heals for nothing, and the only thing i have going for me is a point and click stun with a pretty small range. I just don't understand why i would ever play taric over Leona. Leona does everything taric does, but better.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 10:30:08
January 22 2013 10:28 GMT
#1720
Let´s make this Roffles' Real Talk thread really. I have some things I need to get out about CLG NA and the NA crew.

Carnivorous Sheep best idea 2013.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
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