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On January 22 2013 06:37 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 06:34 TheYango wrote:On January 22 2013 06:33 mordek wrote:
Also, is it just the cost-effectiveness of Warmogs that has AD carries purchasing that instead of Frozen Mallet? (Also the availability of having red buff late game for slow). Yes. Frozen Mallet's cost-effectiveness is ass. Warmog's is cost-effective off the HP alone, never mind the regen. Do you think the cost-effectiveness would still be as much of a factor at 6 items or is it a matter of needing the health earlier in the game so you might as well get Warmogs as a third item and at that point you have your defensive item?
If you're considering 6th item slot effectiveness and ignoring cost-effectiveness, Frozen Mallet isn't that slot-effective either. Randuin's is more slot-effective than Frozen Mallet.
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Guys stfu and brainstorm for me.
I tweeted saying I really like Dunkey's videos and Dyrus tweeted at me saying he can get me in touch with him if I have something to spark his interest. I'm probably not going to though because I can't imagine doing anything content wise with Dunkey but maybe you guys have some super op idea?
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On January 22 2013 06:39 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 06:37 mordek wrote:On January 22 2013 06:34 TheYango wrote:On January 22 2013 06:33 mordek wrote:
Also, is it just the cost-effectiveness of Warmogs that has AD carries purchasing that instead of Frozen Mallet? (Also the availability of having red buff late game for slow). Yes. Frozen Mallet's cost-effectiveness is ass. Warmog's is cost-effective off the HP alone, never mind the regen. Do you think the cost-effectiveness would still be as much of a factor at 6 items or is it a matter of needing the health earlier in the game so you might as well get Warmogs as a third item and at that point you have your defensive item? If you're considering 6th item slot effectiveness and ignoring cost-effectiveness, Frozen Mallet isn't that slot-effective either. Randuin's is more slot-effective than Frozen Mallet.
My brief thought-experiment has ended thanks  I see what your saying. There's never a good point to have FM as an AD carry.
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Dunkey highlight video or ShakeDrizzle troll video?
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FM is just so damn expensive. It's basically a pickaxe more, better to be that much closer to LW imo.
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Just ask to play some Lee Cool Sin with Dunkey in normals and get featured in his videos. Instant success.
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I mean his League name is a reference to ATHF just like mineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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On January 22 2013 06:25 Seuss wrote:
Re: bly
As far as I can tell bly posted something stupid, got corrected, tacitly admitted fault by his third post, everything was fine, but now it's a three-way shitfest between Roffles, gtr, and bly because none of them can admit being wrong to each other ever.
This is like a bad family reunion. All it needs is the marble cake that dried up in the sun and that second cousin once removed who's totally hot but it's all awkward because you're family and you don't live in a place where that's acceptable.
Geetar is just an easy one. He just continues to try and persuade us that his team is filled with quality people. Yet they continue showing up on the larger stage as douche bags. He can name drop about how people act in real life. Though I think we can agree most gamers don't carry out their bm in rl settings. Well unless they are incredibly socially awkward. I understand he is the manager of a team, and there was no chance they wouldn't make top 8. You want to market your team, don't keep making promises. Actually do some quality control for your team. You realize the amount of publicity you would have got if you would have done an AMA or anything on Reddit after LCS?
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On January 22 2013 06:41 HazMat wrote:
Guys stfu and brainstorm for me.
I tweeted saying I really like Dunkey's videos and Dyrus tweeted at me saying he can get me in touch with him if I have something to spark his interest. I'm probably not going to though because I can't imagine doing anything content wise with Dunkey but maybe you guys have some super op idea?
If you're just looking for more exposure/e-fame you could try duoing with him. I'm pretty sure he'd be cool playing with a high elo dude who mains his favorite champion.
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On January 22 2013 06:43 Irave wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 06:25 Seuss wrote:
Re: bly
As far as I can tell bly posted something stupid, got corrected, tacitly admitted fault by his third post, everything was fine, but now it's a three-way shitfest between Roffles, gtr, and bly because none of them can admit being wrong to each other ever.
This is like a bad family reunion. All it needs is the marble cake that dried up in the sun and that second cousin once removed who's totally hot but it's all awkward because you're family and you don't live in a place where that's acceptable. Geetar is just an easy one. He just continues to try and persuade us that his team is filled with quality people. Yet they continue showing up on the larger stage as douche bags. He can name drop about how people act in real life. Though I think we can agree most gamers don't carry out their bm in rl settings. Well unless they are incredibly socially awkward. I understand he is the manager of a team, and there was no chance they wouldn't make top 8. You want to market your team, don't keep making promises. Actually do some quality control for your team. You realize the amount of publicity you would have got if you would have done an AMA or anything on Reddit after LCS?
Cris' raidboss Shen was actually one of the most memorable moments from the LCS tournament in my mind.
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On January 22 2013 06:25 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 06:17 smOOthMayDie wrote:
What's everyones opinion on Akali? I picked her up recently and am absolutely crushing with her! I've played 24 games with her in ranked and I'm sitting at a 70% WR (17-7). Got my first penta kill with her today too!! Just seems like she does SO much damage, even on tanky targets. She does the damages, all the damages. What have you been building? I tried to teach Soniv the way of the ninja with Gunblade, DFG and Lichbane but he kept ulting directly into Zyra roots and knockup.
Silly Soniv, played too much Zyra and Viktor and assumes that "800 range" means he can cast it from outside the ult's circle so it's fine. 
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On January 22 2013 06:34 Kenpachi wrote:
what are the top bans in 1700-1900?
here in the 1500s, i see Malphite, Shen, Evelynn, Blitzcrank, Kha Zix
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On January 22 2013 06:26 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 06:23 smOOthMayDie wrote:On January 22 2013 06:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:On January 22 2013 06:17 smOOthMayDie wrote:
What's everyones opinion on Akali? I picked her up recently and am absolutely crushing with her! I've played 24 games with her in ranked and I'm sitting at a 70% WR (17-7). Got my first penta kill with her today too!! Just seems like she does SO much damage, even on tanky targets. I also just started playing her within the last couple days. But I'm really really bad at assassins, and trying to learn a role I'm really bad at in ranked isn't going so hot. Now that I think about it, I tend to play assassin's more so than any other champions. Eve, Shaco, Talon, khaz, kassadin, etc. This is why I haven't dropped the IP for Akali yet despite Seuss making me interested in jungling her. What do you guys think of personalities catering towards certain roles. I'm pretty sure my playstyle just won't jive with an assassin without some hardcore practice and training. I like to be conservative and try to gain small advantages or out-plan the opponent as opposed to going for that all-in play to kill. I think this is why I'm AD for my 5s team and either AD or jungle in solo q.
I feel like support goes both ways. Some supports like Lulu/ Sona just poke people down and slowly zone them while others like Leona just hit W for manmode shield, go balls deep and kill someone. I guess there's more passive ways of playing, but I generally prefer to just muscle the enemy lane to death. I'm fine with utility, but I want deeps in lane yo. It's probably why I'm so bad with Nami. Her poke/heal feels so weak, her stun is so slow that it feels only useful as a peel. Sexy ult though.
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On January 22 2013 06:41 HazMat wrote:
Guys stfu and brainstorm for me.
I tweeted saying I really like Dunkey's videos and Dyrus tweeted at me saying he can get me in touch with him if I have something to spark his interest. I'm probably not going to though because I can't imagine doing anything content wise with Dunkey but maybe you guys have some super op idea?
You don't need him! Though seriously, I don't see how it would work out. You make the exact opposite videos.
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On January 22 2013 06:41 HazMat wrote:
Guys stfu and brainstorm for me.
I tweeted saying I really like Dunkey's videos and Dyrus tweeted at me saying he can get me in touch with him if I have something to spark his interest. I'm probably not going to though because I can't imagine doing anything content wise with Dunkey but maybe you guys have some super op idea?
What you need is an "Anything you can do I can do better" highlight video starring you and Dunkey. Take it to whatever comedic level you deem appropriate.
On January 22 2013 06:41 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 06:39 TheYango wrote:On January 22 2013 06:37 mordek wrote:On January 22 2013 06:34 TheYango wrote:On January 22 2013 06:33 mordek wrote:
Also, is it just the cost-effectiveness of Warmogs that has AD carries purchasing that instead of Frozen Mallet? (Also the availability of having red buff late game for slow). Yes. Frozen Mallet's cost-effectiveness is ass. Warmog's is cost-effective off the HP alone, never mind the regen. Do you think the cost-effectiveness would still be as much of a factor at 6 items or is it a matter of needing the health earlier in the game so you might as well get Warmogs as a third item and at that point you have your defensive item? If you're considering 6th item slot effectiveness and ignoring cost-effectiveness, Frozen Mallet isn't that slot-effective either. Randuin's is more slot-effective than Frozen Mallet. My brief thought-experiment has ended thanks I see what your saying. There's never a good point to have FM as an AD carry.
I can't speak for actual games, but my standard build on Graves in ARAMs is Brutalizer -> Phage -> Mallet -> BC, with later additions based on what's needed. It's super effective because most bruisers/assassins count on bursting you down. It's really easy to kite champions when they blow everything to get on top of you/murder you and suddenly you're not dead, have dashed away, and can now kite them forever until their long gap closer CD comes back (at which point your dash is back again, silly OP Graves E).
Obviously this principle doesn't work against every champion, but where it's effective I suspect the power of not taking damage while kiting is equivalent or greater than the power of Warmog's Hp5, at least in combat.
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On January 22 2013 06:41 HazMat wrote:
Guys stfu and brainstorm for me.
I tweeted saying I really like Dunkey's videos and Dyrus tweeted at me saying he can get me in touch with him if I have something to spark his interest. I'm probably not going to though because I can't imagine doing anything content wise with Dunkey but maybe you guys have some super op idea?
Draven jungle works pretty good but its hard to pull off if you don't have the skills. I hear he likes draven.
On January 22 2013 06:46 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 06:26 mordek wrote:On January 22 2013 06:23 smOOthMayDie wrote:On January 22 2013 06:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:On January 22 2013 06:17 smOOthMayDie wrote:
What's everyones opinion on Akali? I picked her up recently and am absolutely crushing with her! I've played 24 games with her in ranked and I'm sitting at a 70% WR (17-7). Got my first penta kill with her today too!! Just seems like she does SO much damage, even on tanky targets. I also just started playing her within the last couple days. But I'm really really bad at assassins, and trying to learn a role I'm really bad at in ranked isn't going so hot. Now that I think about it, I tend to play assassin's more so than any other champions. Eve, Shaco, Talon, khaz, kassadin, etc. This is why I haven't dropped the IP for Akali yet despite Seuss making me interested in jungling her. What do you guys think of personalities catering towards certain roles. I'm pretty sure my playstyle just won't jive with an assassin without some hardcore practice and training. I like to be conservative and try to gain small advantages or out-plan the opponent as opposed to going for that all-in play to kill. I think this is why I'm AD for my 5s team and either AD or jungle in solo q. I feel like support goes both ways. Some supports like Lulu/ Sona just poke people down and slowly zone them while others like Leona just hit W for manmode shield, go balls deep and kill someone. I guess there's more passive ways of playing, but I generally prefer to just muscle the enemy lane to death. I'm fine with utility, but I want deeps in lane yo. It's probably why I'm so bad with Nami. Her poke/heal feels so weak, her stun is so slow that it feels only useful as a peel. Sexy ult though.
Everything you say says you want to try jarvan support. Just e+q combo plus an auto attack or 2 and then walk into the bush and walk away. His base e+q combo is actualy really really cheap on mana and does a ton of damage.
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On January 22 2013 06:41 HazMat wrote:
Guys stfu and brainstorm for me.
I tweeted saying I really like Dunkey's videos and Dyrus tweeted at me saying he can get me in touch with him if I have something to spark his interest. I'm probably not going to though because I can't imagine doing anything content wise with Dunkey but maybe you guys have some super op idea?
If it was me I would just spoof phreak's champion spotlight with how real people build and play champs. Aka "for defensive items I build BC for more damage." It has to be exactly the same format as his spotlights but that isn't very hard.
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On January 22 2013 06:52 Irave wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 06:41 HazMat wrote:
Guys stfu and brainstorm for me.
I tweeted saying I really like Dunkey's videos and Dyrus tweeted at me saying he can get me in touch with him if I have something to spark his interest. I'm probably not going to though because I can't imagine doing anything content wise with Dunkey but maybe you guys have some super op idea?
You don't need him! Though seriously, I don't see how it would work out. You make the exact opposite videos.
Yeah, I agree. I am a huge fan but when I tweeted that I just meant how I've never gotten to face him in a normal or whatever, I wasn't planning on a colab since our videos are so different. Really cool of Dyrus to offer though, + respect for him. Thanks for the ideas guys but I'ma just say no.
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On January 22 2013 06:46 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 06:26 mordek wrote:On January 22 2013 06:23 smOOthMayDie wrote:On January 22 2013 06:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:On January 22 2013 06:17 smOOthMayDie wrote:
What's everyones opinion on Akali? I picked her up recently and am absolutely crushing with her! I've played 24 games with her in ranked and I'm sitting at a 70% WR (17-7). Got my first penta kill with her today too!! Just seems like she does SO much damage, even on tanky targets. I also just started playing her within the last couple days. But I'm really really bad at assassins, and trying to learn a role I'm really bad at in ranked isn't going so hot. Now that I think about it, I tend to play assassin's more so than any other champions. Eve, Shaco, Talon, khaz, kassadin, etc. This is why I haven't dropped the IP for Akali yet despite Seuss making me interested in jungling her. What do you guys think of personalities catering towards certain roles. I'm pretty sure my playstyle just won't jive with an assassin without some hardcore practice and training. I like to be conservative and try to gain small advantages or out-plan the opponent as opposed to going for that all-in play to kill. I think this is why I'm AD for my 5s team and either AD or jungle in solo q. I feel like support goes both ways. Some supports like Lulu/ Sona just poke people down and slowly zone them while others like Leona just hit W for manmode shield, go balls deep and kill someone. I guess there's more passive ways of playing, but I generally prefer to just muscle the enemy lane to death. I'm fine with utility, but I want deeps in lane yo. It's probably why I'm so bad with Nami. Her poke/heal feels so weak, her stun is so slow that it feels only useful as a peel. Sexy ult though.
Sona is pretty good at manmoding if you do it in the early levels and manage your mana right for more powerchords. It's all in the head yo!
(Also remember Alistar exists. Poor dude never gets seen anymore.)
I bought Lulu. Ima feed some till I learn how inadequate she is to berserk play, then I'll just sit and spam /laugh when I'm not yelling for blood.
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I played with him in a normal game once. He was on my friendslist back when he wasn't popular, #shittyswag.
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