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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 27 2013 07:22 GMT
#3081
every ratio that goes over 100% can be abused because % scaling is just imba and it makes to stack one stat way more efficent
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 27 2013 07:40 GMT
#3082
On January 27 2013 16:22 Chexx wrote:
every ratio that goes over 100% can be abused because % scaling is just imba and it makes to stack one stat way more efficent

Oh, Malzahar is imbalanced, his ultimate AP ratio is 130%! Damn, didn't know
(as in, I don't really follow your thought process. Elaborate please? :3)
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
January 27 2013 07:44 GMT
#3083
Doesn't Thresh onhit have charge up time of 10s?
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
January 27 2013 08:04 GMT
#3084
On January 27 2013 16:44 cascades wrote:
Doesn't Thresh onhit have charge up time of 10s?

It's not like that's nearly long enough when you can still open up a fight with an attack that does AD Physical + (Souls + 200% of total AD) magic damage. If you have a mere 200 AD and say 60 souls, which is not hard to get as an AD carry, your first attack is going to hit for around 100-150 physical damage and 230-400 magic damage (depending on resists). That's an insane amount of damage for a passive ability that takes no mana *and* has an active component completely unrelated. Thresh basically has two passives, and both of them are crazy strong.
3.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 27 2013 08:45 GMT
#3085
On January 27 2013 16:44 cascades wrote:
Doesn't Thresh onhit have charge up time of 10s?


its more like 8.5
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 08:52:25
January 27 2013 08:50 GMT
#3086
On January 27 2013 16:40 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 16:22 Chexx wrote:
every ratio that goes over 100% can be abused because % scaling is just imba and it makes to stack one stat way more efficent

Oh, Malzahar is imbalanced, his ultimate AP ratio is 130%! Damn, didn't know
(as in, I don't really follow your thought process. Elaborate please? :3)


Ultimate does not count because the CD is too high. But what I wanted to say is that you have high ratio on your qwe spells its easy to abuse this. For example tresh can hit like a truck because of his Q passive which was never intended. Or Khazix with his high scaling of his spells. If Iirc Jax had high scalings too which led to the point nobody build hybrid on him and instead just stacked AD. Or Tryndamere has high scalings too on both AP and AD.
I hope i could explain what I want to say
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
January 27 2013 08:58 GMT
#3087
On January 27 2013 14:53 ChaoSbringer wrote:
#1 SC2 streamer is a LoL player.

SC2 is a real mans esport!


I actually played SC2 1v1 for the first time in over a year. Played about 10 games as random, not bad. Drophacked once, so that sucked, but won every single mainrace, and went like 4/6 on offrace(both losses as terran @_@).

- was mid-high masters around 1.5-2 years ago

Porouscloud - NA LoL
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 09:56:24
January 27 2013 09:24 GMT
#3088
On January 27 2013 17:50 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 16:40 Scip wrote:
On January 27 2013 16:22 Chexx wrote:
every ratio that goes over 100% can be abused because % scaling is just imba and it makes to stack one stat way more efficent

Oh, Malzahar is imbalanced, his ultimate AP ratio is 130%! Damn, didn't know
(as in, I don't really follow your thought process. Elaborate please? :3)


Ultimate does not count because the CD is too high. But what I wanted to say is that you have high ratio on your qwe spells its easy to abuse this. For example tresh can hit like a truck because of his Q passive which was never intended. Or Khazix with his high scaling of his spells. If Iirc Jax had high scalings too which led to the point nobody build hybrid on him and instead just stacked AD. Or Tryndamere has high scalings too on both AP and AD.
I hope i could explain what I want to say

No, it doesn't explain. Unless you mean that if ratios are imbalanced with nothing to compensate for them, then the whole champion is imbalanced I suppose, but that is like, a tautology? And doesn't have any special limit like 1.0 ratio (either AP or AD).
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 27 2013 09:39 GMT
#3089
On January 27 2013 17:50 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 16:40 Scip wrote:
On January 27 2013 16:22 Chexx wrote:
every ratio that goes over 100% can be abused because % scaling is just imba and it makes to stack one stat way more efficent

Oh, Malzahar is imbalanced, his ultimate AP ratio is 130%! Damn, didn't know
(as in, I don't really follow your thought process. Elaborate please? :3)


Ultimate does not count because the CD is too high. But what I wanted to say is that you have high ratio on your qwe spells its easy to abuse this. For example tresh can hit like a truck because of his Q passive which was never intended. Or Khazix with his high scaling of his spells. If Iirc Jax had high scalings too which led to the point nobody build hybrid on him and instead just stacked AD. Or Tryndamere has high scalings too on both AP and AD.
I hope i could explain what I want to say

That doesn't really make much sense imo. High ratios don't mean a champ is OP. It can certainly help push a champ into OP territory, but good ratios by itself is meaningless. You need to look at a champ's kit in its entirety.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 27 2013 10:37 GMT
#3090
Okay maybe this is now better worded. If you have spells with high ratio it enables a champion to play a role which was not intentionally planned for. Since it was intentionally the chance is high that the hero will be broken in this role because something was overlooked.

Of course it depends on some other things like champion kit, which is highly important too
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
January 27 2013 12:49 GMT
#3091
i just started to play dominion. What is dominion point?
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
January 27 2013 13:03 GMT
#3092
On January 27 2013 21:49 Mensol wrote:
i just started to play dominion. What is dominion point?

Killing stuff
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11683 Posts
January 27 2013 13:17 GMT
#3093
Basically aram, only without the R, and with a slightly larger map.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 27 2013 13:50 GMT
#3094
On January 27 2013 21:49 Mensol wrote:
i just started to play dominion. What is dominion point?

cap points, kill dudes.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 14:03:36
January 27 2013 13:57 GMT
#3095
I don't know if it has been said before, but newly "EG" Snoopeh will be on Real Talk as the first lol player (he already interviewed the Miller and the RedEye, who was the host for IEM Katowitze, for those who are interested) on JP's great show. I feel blessed that JP gets interested in the lol scene, his content has always been amazing.

Here is the reddit thread, would be great if he came on our subforum to make a post for us (but maybe it would be a bad idea considering there is a Real Talk thread in the SC2 subforum).
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17buou/egsnoopeh_to_be_first_2013_real_talk_guest_on_jan/
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 14:12:18
January 27 2013 13:59 GMT
#3096
On January 27 2013 22:57 WhiteDog wrote:
I don't know if it has been said before, but newly "EG" Snoopeh will be on Real Talk as the first lol figure on JP's great shows. I feel blessed that JP gets interested in the lol scene, his content has always been amazing.

Here is the reddit thread, would be great if he came on our subforum to make a post for us (but maybe it would be a bad idea considering there is a Real Talk thread in the SC2 subforum).
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17buou/egsnoopeh_to_be_first_2013_real_talk_guest_on_jan/

While he is not exclusively part of LoL, Joe Miller was interviewed by JP. League was talked about quite a bit in the interview.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 14:04:11
January 27 2013 14:00 GMT
#3097
On January 27 2013 22:59 ChaoSbringer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 22:57 WhiteDog wrote:
I don't know if it has been said before, but newly "EG" Snoopeh will be on Real Talk as the first lol figure on JP's great shows. I feel blessed that JP gets interested in the lol scene, his content has always been amazing.

Here is the reddit thread, would be great if he came on our subforum to make a post for us (but maybe it would be a bad idea considering there is a Real Talk thread in the SC2 subforum).
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17buou/egsnoopeh_to_be_first_2013_real_talk_guest_on_jan/

While not he is not exclusively part of LoL, Joe Miller was interviewed by JP.

Yeah I just edited. I also saw a twit from JP saying he would maybe go for a lol state of the game, which would be great considering how bad state of the league is :D
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 27 2013 14:23 GMT
#3098
lol jp going for LoL state of the game?:D if that happened, travis' "brand" would be dead although since travis is established and JP doesn't actually know anyone from the LoL scene among the pros, I'd doubt a LoL stog would make sense.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 14:57:18
January 27 2013 14:56 GMT
#3099
Because clearly JP contacting and asking pro's to do a talkshow is impossible.

I mean they clearly wouldnt be interested in doing such a thing with a successful esports talkshow already proven elsewhere, right?

...
Useless wet fish.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 27 2013 15:02 GMT
#3100
honestly? I seriously doubt that the pros would prefer STOG with a new guy instead of SOTL with Travis, the main problem remains that because of all the scimschedules it's hard to actually assemble 4-5 people, which is the reason SOTL only happens every few weeks.

This is hella funny.
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