• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 03:48
CET 09:48
KST 17:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA16
StarCraft 2
General
SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft What happened to TvZ on Retro? Data analysis on 70 million replays 2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1929 users

[Patch 1.0.0.153: Preseason Balance Update 1] GD - Page 69

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 67 68 69 70 71 451 Next
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 20:57:48
December 18 2012 20:56 GMT
#1361
On December 19 2012 05:11 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:49 Phrost wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/1AaqV.jpg

Who should I buy? I want to play this champion in ranked, I don't like Nautilus, and I don't like to support


How do you not have Kennen? He's still a super lane bully even if no one plays him again and he works in mid lane or top lane. He actually does have a few bad match ups but I don't think he has any lane that's just straight up un-winnable.


because I'm terrible? Idk i dont really find him fun. I dont find a lot of champions I have fun... it's weird


I like champions that have a good flow, and his is not my style.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
December 18 2012 21:00 GMT
#1362
lulu is tons of fun. trust me.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
December 18 2012 21:11 GMT
#1363
On Elysias Miracle, I've been curious to try it on Dominion. If you're taking the Summoner Spell cooldown mastery you can get Revive's CD down to around 6 minutes. This means you can (generally) use it 4 times instead of 3 and have less downtime on the health bonus. The slot efficiency isn't that useful, but assuming you can use the sustain it might be worth the early sacrifice to combat stats on some champs by purchasing it straight out of the gate.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 18 2012 21:15 GMT
#1364
Woooooo therealkiwikid!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 18 2012 21:34 GMT
#1365
Just spent a ~30 minutes as Irelia on boots1 until very late. And that was against Singed+Ashe. The slow reduction mastery and the fact that I grabbed some blues for Q cdr (Amumu jungle killed their holder, and we had Katarina mid) actually do more for mobility than MS I felt (started wit's->phage, never completed trifoce, so no MS outside of quints).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 18 2012 21:36 GMT
#1366
On December 19 2012 06:15 Sufficiency wrote:
Woooooo therealkiwikid!

So the dWoD thing was just Pobelter trolling hard, what a jerk xP

Interested to to see how Kiwi does on Dig, looked solid in the games where he was trying out. Good Organization Dignitas bringing in fresh talent to the scene.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
December 18 2012 21:39 GMT
#1367
On December 19 2012 06:11 Amarok wrote:
On Elysias Miracle, I've been curious to try it on Dominion. If you're taking the Summoner Spell cooldown mastery you can get Revive's CD down to around 6 minutes. This means you can (generally) use it 4 times instead of 3 and have less downtime on the health bonus. The slot efficiency isn't that useful, but assuming you can use the sustain it might be worth the early sacrifice to combat stats on some champs by purchasing it straight out of the gate.


I saw this being discussed somewhere else but the benefits of a decrease in Revive cooldown is a bit suspect as you would have to die and revive a lot to get that extra revive in the short time-frame of a Dominion match. Revive has been nerfed a bit too... dunno if it will be such a dominant summoner spell in Dominion anymore but we will have to see.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 22:00:21
December 18 2012 21:59 GMT
#1368
The only use I have for eliesas is an early item on complete bankplank, allows him the regen to spam all day long while still having enough slots for a full item build.

The item itself just has like split personality, it makes no sense...item whose benefit is slot efficiency.... and support stats (the only role who gives no fucks about slot efficiency), loses gp5. It makes zero sense.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
MetalMarine
Profile Joined June 2007
United States1559 Posts
December 18 2012 22:01 GMT
#1369
On December 19 2012 05:32 Sufficiency wrote:
The Biscuit stacks with potions and makes you outheal ignite.


Thank YOU! thats what i was thinking too
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
December 18 2012 22:02 GMT
#1370
pobelter trolls too hard gg
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 22:10:57
December 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#1371
On December 19 2012 06:39 willoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 06:11 Amarok wrote:
On Elysias Miracle, I've been curious to try it on Dominion. If you're taking the Summoner Spell cooldown mastery you can get Revive's CD down to around 6 minutes. This means you can (generally) use it 4 times instead of 3 and have less downtime on the health bonus. The slot efficiency isn't that useful, but assuming you can use the sustain it might be worth the early sacrifice to combat stats on some champs by purchasing it straight out of the gate.


I saw this being discussed somewhere else but the benefits of a decrease in Revive cooldown is a bit suspect as you would have to die and revive a lot to get that extra revive in the short time-frame of a Dominion match. Revive has been nerfed a bit too... dunno if it will be such a dominant summoner spell in Dominion anymore but we will have to see.


I think that holds much more true in SR than it does in Dom. In close hard fought games you're going to be dying a fair bit, and even when stomping I find that I die a few times due to the regularity of teamfights. Because of the decreased rewards on champ kills, things like sacrificing yourself to hold a point for a few extra seconds while reinforcements arrive or putting yourself out of position and pushing down a point giving time for an assassin to gank bot before shooting back to defend top with imp revive can really change the flow of a game in a way no other summoner can.

Trouble with Miracle is that Revive really is for making game changing plays, while regen isn't really a combat statistic that helps you do that. It's also a combat statistic that is most valuable when you're alive for a significant period of time, again not something that synergizes particularly well with Revive. It's still tempting because the massive CD is the only thing keeping Revive from being downright broken in there.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 18 2012 22:11 GMT
#1372
On December 19 2012 06:59 sob3k wrote:
The only use I have for eliesas is an early item on complete bankplank, allows him the regen to spam all day long while still having enough slots for a full item build.

The item itself just has like split personality, it makes no sense...item whose benefit is slot efficiency.... and support stats (the only role who gives no fucks about slot efficiency), loses gp5. It makes zero sense.

Would you do the upgrade early for Bankplank and absorb by like level 8 just for the regen? I've never felt wanting for mana with him, honestly, with just mana pots (well flask now) and paying attention. Unless I'm really spamming Ult and W, but that's kind of rare, even when you're in full out farm mode.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 18 2012 22:20 GMT
#1373
On December 19 2012 06:36 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 06:15 Sufficiency wrote:
Woooooo therealkiwikid!

So the dWoD thing was just Pobelter trolling hard, what a jerk xP

Interested to to see how Kiwi does on Dig, looked solid in the games where he was trying out. Good Organization Dignitas bringing in fresh talent to the scene.


I felt it had maybe 10% truthfulness to it though, because how scarra reacted.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
December 18 2012 22:22 GMT
#1374
I thought elisa's gave tenacity... imho if it had that again it'd be worth buying
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 18 2012 22:29 GMT
#1375
On December 19 2012 07:20 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 06:36 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 19 2012 06:15 Sufficiency wrote:
Woooooo therealkiwikid!

So the dWoD thing was just Pobelter trolling hard, what a jerk xP

Interested to to see how Kiwi does on Dig, looked solid in the games where he was trying out. Good Organization Dignitas bringing in fresh talent to the scene.


I felt it had maybe 10% truthfulness to it though, because how scarra reacted.

I just thought Scarra replied that way to make it seem like it was a joke. Some high level reverse psychology techniques. Turns out I was wrong.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
December 18 2012 22:30 GMT
#1376
On December 19 2012 07:22 Phrost wrote:
I thought elisa's gave tenacity... imho if it had that again it'd be worth buying

I think if they put an actual useful stat on an item that up and disappears it would be broken. Like, if it had Tenacity on it right now, no one would buy any of the other tenacity items ever (except manaless champions maybe.)
3.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
December 18 2012 22:31 GMT
#1377
On December 19 2012 07:22 Phrost wrote:
I thought elisa's gave tenacity... imho if it had that again it'd be worth buying


It did in S2. Riot probably figured a slotless tenacity item would be OP.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 18 2012 22:35 GMT
#1378
On December 19 2012 07:30 Inschato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 07:22 Phrost wrote:
I thought elisa's gave tenacity... imho if it had that again it'd be worth buying

I think if they put an actual useful stat on an item that up and disappears it would be broken. Like, if it had Tenacity on it right now, no one would buy any of the other tenacity items ever (except manaless champions maybe.)

Well, that's an issue with the "disappearing item" design as it is. If it's good, anyone who wants the stat (in the case of Tenacity, pretty much everyone unless the enemy team has no CC) will buy it. If the stats aren't good (low amounts of regen, for instance, or CDR on Summoners that many people don't take) then it's pointless to get.

Imagine if there was like an AD or AP one. I mean, damn.
It's your boy Guzma!
jcc
Profile Joined January 2011
United States472 Posts
December 18 2012 22:40 GMT
#1379
My client stopped working and I can't access the site, did the NA servers go down?
http://broukej.cz/lol-signatures/GGod_na_103_4_logo.png
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
December 18 2012 22:41 GMT
#1380
On December 19 2012 07:40 jcc wrote:
My client stopped working and I can't access the site, did the NA servers go down?

Yeah.
Prev 1 67 68 69 70 71 451 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech135
SortOf 83
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3293
actioN 2515
Shuttle 1007
Larva 407
Yoon 235
Leta 211
Killer 156
Soma 143
firebathero 139
Sharp 46
[ Show more ]
Aegong 30
zelot 20
Hm[arnc] 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm107
XcaliburYe71
League of Legends
JimRising 659
C9.Mang0195
Other Games
summit1g17958
ceh9507
Fuzer 10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick604
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 74
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 79
• Sammyuel 47
• LUISG 26
• Adnapsc2 11
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1813
• Lourlo1283
Upcoming Events
OSC
12m
Wardi Open
3h 12m
Monday Night Weeklies
8h 12m
OSC
14h 12m
Wardi Open
1d 3h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
2 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
OSC
4 days
LAN Event
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.