EPTvvvvvv the grand finals of the tournament that Fnatic barely lost had 3 Amumu games IIRC. Worth watching.
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
vvvvvv the grand finals of the tournament that Fnatic barely lost had 3 Amumu games IIRC. Worth watching. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23465 Posts
On December 19 2012 01:31 Requizen wrote: sob3k, thanks for the Elise jungle stuff. Wanna try that out at some point, I think she's fun but I'm not really a mid player (and always Riven top). Seuss, I saw a Jungle Akali in a game this past week and thought it was kind of a joke, but she did surprisingly well. Is this actually legit or is it just a sort of cheesy pick that works sometimes? I can't really see her having good ganks or anything like that. Amumu's always been broken in solo queue imo, he thrives on the enemy's lack of communication or overall coordination. Or at least it's always felt that way in low ELO. which is why we see him dominating in tournament games when we see him, right? (or at least I see hi dominating, even with snoopehs retarded dfg builds he still won games) | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On December 19 2012 01:37 Scip wrote: He's been broken everywhere, his teamfight and early game middle lane pressure are just insane. Yeah, he benefits from enemy team being uncoordinated. He benefits from his own team being coordinated too though. vvvvvv the grand finals of the tournament that Fnatic barely lost had 3 Amumu games IIRC. Worth watching. Well that too. I was saying he's good in competitive play, but broken as hell in solo queue because no one knows how to deal with him. I've seen so many people do stupid things like focus him while standing in melee range, cluster up as soon as he bandage tosses in, or just in general not punish bad ults or missed Bandages. I'm not saying that makes him a bad competitive champ, but most people on here only play solo queue or normals. | ||
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Gaslo
Finland951 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23465 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On December 19 2012 01:48 Slayer91 wrote: which makes adding the clause "in solo queue" necessary... why? Like I said, good in competitive play, broken in solo queue. The difference between good and broken has some weight in my mind. I don't think in competitive (or I guess high ELO solo/arranged) play he's broken, just as good as ever with some slight upgrades in the new jungle thanks to things like Spirit of the Ancient Golem. Ban worthy to be sure, especially against certain pros, but not broken on the level of "pick, ban, or lose". | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On December 19 2012 01:54 zer0das wrote: Anyone feel like Pantheon is a hell of a lot harder to beat in top lane these days? I can usually beat him or go even, but Black Cleaver makes that a lot more precarious than it used to be with a balanced rune page. I feel like I probably just need to build a full armor page so the early levels aren't such a pain in the ass. You should see him mid lane then. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23465 Posts
On December 19 2012 01:54 Requizen wrote: Like I said, good in competitive play, broken in solo queue. The difference between good and broken has some weight in my mind. I don't think in competitive (or I guess high ELO solo/arranged) play he's broken, just as good as ever with some slight upgrades in the new jungle thanks to things like Spirit of the Ancient Golem. Ban worthy to be sure, especially against certain pros, but not broken on the level of "pick, ban, or lose". amumu isn't pick ban or lose in solo queue either, what's your point? there are almost always things that are considered "op" in tournaments, and usually at least some of them are left open. It doesnt' guarantee a win though,but you can still call them broken. The difference doesn't really matter, it's just semantics, but saying "broken" carries more weight in your post while saying he's good is just a statement of the obvious. what pisses me off is "in solo queue" is added after so many peoples posts and it's usually meaningless eve was "op in solo queue" until m5 started using her in tournaments. APsion was used in tournaments after being a "only good in solo queue" champ for a while. sion stopped being used in both tournaments as well as in solo queue | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On December 19 2012 01:57 Slayer91 wrote: amumu isn't pick ban or lose in solo queue either, what's your point? ...sorry if I offended you or something, I wasn't trying to be argumentative. If you'd really like to know, I just think that at low levels it sure can feel that way. For every teammate you get that can deal with him (juke bandage tosses, know how to watch for his ganks, know how to spread out/position for his ult), you get one or two that just derp and don't even know things like the fact that you can't auto during his ult, or that autos lower Tantrum's CD. I'm sure it doesn't happen a lot at high ELO, but I was simply saying during my experience and playtime. In fact, I can't remember the last time I didn't see him banned or picked (and be a big influence on victory). Sorry if you perceive that differently, I was merely stating my opinion on the matter. As to the rest of the edit, there are plenty of things that are abusive in solo queue where people are unexposed, inexperienced, and uncommunicative. As most, if not all, of my experience comes from playing and spectating solo queue, I wouldn't want my words to seemingly reflect on the pro scene or high level arranged 5's, which I have no experience with other than some tourneys. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23465 Posts
For every teammate being able to "juke bandage tosses" there is an amumu who's so bad that he "can't hit his Q". Skillshots are pretty well scaling for skill level like that. Most things are, I think. Snowbally assassins are better when people group up less, and people who can win their lane easily against people poor at playing defensive, but that's not something that peopel seem to mention a lot. | ||
Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On December 19 2012 02:01 Requizen wrote: ...sorry if I offended you or something, I wasn't trying to be argumentative. If you'd really like to know, I just think that at low levels it sure can feel that way. For every teammate you get that can deal with him (juke bandage tosses, know how to watch for his ganks, know how to spread out/position for his ult), you get one or two that just derp and don't even know things like the fact that you can't auto during his ult, or that autos lower Tantrum's CD. I'm sure it doesn't happen a lot at high ELO, but I was simply saying during my experience and playtime. In fact, I can't remember the last time I didn't see him banned or picked (and be a big influence on victory). Sorry if you perceive that differently, I was merely stating my opinion on the matter. As to the rest of the edit, there are plenty of things that are abusive in solo queue where people are unexposed, inexperienced, and uncommunicative. As most, if not all, of my experience comes from playing and spectating solo queue, I wouldn't want my words to seemingly reflect on the pro scene or high level arranged 5's, which I have no experience with other than some tourneys. One time somebody yelled at me for attacking Amumu because "he get more armor every time you attack him." XD | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On December 19 2012 02:05 Slayer91 wrote: What's wrong with arguments? They are the soul of discussion. I'm a passive person. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On December 19 2012 02:05 Slayer91 wrote: What's wrong with arguments? They are the soul of discussion. On the internet (even TL), they tend to lead to flaming, rage, and trolling. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23465 Posts
insert Howardsays"IN BED"andlaughs.mp3 here I haven't seen much flaming raging and trolling around here, and it's not only on the internet. lo. people don't rage and flame in IRL? thats how some fights start | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On December 19 2012 02:08 Slayer91 wrote: insert Howardsays"IN BED"andlaughs.mp3 here I haven't seen much flaming raging and trolling around here, and it's not only on the internet. lo. people don't rage and flame in IRL? thats how some fights start Well yeah, it's just easier on the internet. And, to be fair, when I mean flaming, raging, and trolling, I tend to mean the explosions that tend to occur (almost certainly out-of-proportion) around bly, Sufficiency, PrinceXizor, ELO hell, Gp5, etc etc etc that are just how TL LoL GD rolls. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
Also Vee is the name of the girl who voiced her (Christina Vee). | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
shame i'm just a faggot support player  | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On December 19 2012 02:20 WhiteDog wrote: When is Vi going out ? Also Vee is the name of the girl who voiced her (Christina Vee). Is Cristina the VA for Vi? Then I'm inclined to think it's pronounce "vee" as in 'viola' instead of "vi" as in 'violence" Either way, Phreak should say the "official" pronunciation in the spotlight. What Phreak says is what Riot's take on preference. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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