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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 23:09:29
January 08 2013 23:09 GMT
#6881
On January 09 2013 08:05 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:04 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 09 2013 07:59 Amui wrote:
How good is Thresh as a kill lane support. He has range(granted it's somewhat low) to last-hit minions/harass at level 1, and gains huge threat at both level 2 and 3. Can variably skill depending on what his partner brings, and scales fine without taking CS.

I feel like that's where he's going to be seen most, severing a Leona-esque role.


The question is more directed towards bruiser+thresh, because he has the ability to bring a shielded angry melee with full cooldowns right up to a squishies face very early on in the game.

Leona was often used in kill lanes before, Leona/Jarven comes to mind. But Thresh and bruiser has potential, gives them a shield that lets the bruiser get up in the face of an enemy and then they can just teleport out after they finish their combo.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
January 08 2013 23:13 GMT
#6882
Epik Gamer vs FXO eSports @ 6:30p PST! http://www.twitch.tv/ipllol come watch guys
washed
Sid(TB)
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States314 Posts
January 08 2013 23:13 GMT
#6883
hey, just curious if anyone here on TL would be interested in giving some free lessons? i main adc at about 1600 elo, i feel like i'm not getting better and generally blame being camped as why i lost (i shouldn't, but i do sadly) i feel like i need a second set of eyes.

anyways, i'd be willing to discuss theory over skype, and if you would be willing to play some with me to watch how i play, or w/e else u'd like to do to help me, i'd be very happy. i'd be willing to trade sc2 lessons as im a past GM player. or how ever else i could repay u, thanks in advance.
rEAdY tO bE iNfEcTeD?
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
January 08 2013 23:17 GMT
#6884
On January 09 2013 08:01 TheYango wrote:
It's really funny how underbought pinks are given how everyone is in the habit of warding the cookie-cutter ward locations every time.

Ever since we get free wards from Sightstone I spend my leftover money as a support on pink wards. Just makes sense to me.
3.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 08 2013 23:17 GMT
#6885
On January 09 2013 07:55 Doctorbeat wrote:
A few questions on Muramana here: Does it work with Twitch ult? And how? Does it deal 6% of current mana to all who get hit by spray and pray?

Also, has anyone tried AP Koggles yet? I know that it probably sucks due to the huge amount of assassins and gap closers, but is the damage potential still huge? Maybe a tankier build could work? (Tear+Catalyst into RoA+Rylai?

He's been nerfed after competitive usage showed him to be OP—first to his base damage, then to his sustainable damage by raising the cap on his ult's mana cost for consecutive uses.
(Even when played AD his used had always surprised me with the excellent base damage it had so that even played like that you could expend some mana to finish off somebody or soften the enemy duo before a dive. Noone really minded it till AP Kog became popular tho.)

On January 09 2013 08:03 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:01 TheYango wrote:
It's really funny how underbought pinks are given how everyone is in the habit of warding the cookie-cutter ward locations every time.


I tend to carry pinks all the time as support. Philo+Pick and sightstone for me normal wards make pinks very affordable. They give you great area control, and carrying a pink in a teamfight with an Akali or a Eve is huge.

Philo, Kage, Boots, Sightstone, Pinks... and only one slot for components/finished items after that?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 08 2013 23:18 GMT
#6886
On January 09 2013 07:59 Amui wrote:
How good is Thresh as a kill lane support. He has range(granted it's somewhat low) to last-hit minions/harass at level 1, and gains huge threat at both level 2 and 3. Can variably skill depending on what his partner brings, and scales fine without taking CS.


Fairly good, but landing his Q on a champion is extremely difficult. The windup is so big I would be shocked to see it land on any pro player who had vision of Thresh.

What makes him scary during laning is more his gank assist with W, or the level of aggression he can support by giving his laning partner a free escape coupled with a shield.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 08 2013 23:21 GMT
#6887
On January 09 2013 08:17 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 07:55 Doctorbeat wrote:
A few questions on Muramana here: Does it work with Twitch ult? And how? Does it deal 6% of current mana to all who get hit by spray and pray?

Also, has anyone tried AP Koggles yet? I know that it probably sucks due to the huge amount of assassins and gap closers, but is the damage potential still huge? Maybe a tankier build could work? (Tear+Catalyst into RoA+Rylai?

He's been nerfed after competitive usage showed him to be OP—first to his base damage, then to his sustainable damage by raising the cap on his ult's mana cost for consecutive uses.
(Even when played AD his used had always surprised me with the excellent base damage it had so that even played like that you could expend some mana to finish off somebody or soften the enemy duo before a dive. Noone really minded it till AP Kog became popular tho.)

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:03 Doctorbeat wrote:
On January 09 2013 08:01 TheYango wrote:
It's really funny how underbought pinks are given how everyone is in the habit of warding the cookie-cutter ward locations every time.


I tend to carry pinks all the time as support. Philo+Pick and sightstone for me normal wards make pinks very affordable. They give you great area control, and carrying a pink in a teamfight with an Akali or a Eve is huge.

Philo, Kage, Boots, Sightstone, Pinks... and only one slot for components/finished items after that?


I get my boots pretty late, and that leftover slot is usually used for Bulwark. After that I finish up Shurelia/Shard/Twins if I want them or sell the gp/10 item when necessary.

On many supports I'll have sightstone+1 gp/10 before I have my boots. I also run gp/10 runes, money in the bank.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14210 Posts
January 08 2013 23:26 GMT
#6888
On January 09 2013 08:13 Vlanitak wrote:
Epik Gamer vs FXO eSports @ 6:30p PST! http://www.twitch.tv/ipllol come watch guys


That don't look like no fxo vs eg.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9246 Posts
January 08 2013 23:29 GMT
#6889
On January 09 2013 08:13 Vlanitak wrote:
Epik Gamer vs FXO eSports @ 6:30p PST! http://www.twitch.tv/ipllol come watch guys

I don't see anything on their site, what's this from?

As a sidenote, holy crap LoL is bigger in Brazil than I thought. 22k viewers for a BR qualifier,
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 08 2013 23:29 GMT
#6890
On January 09 2013 08:21 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:17 Alaric wrote:
On January 09 2013 07:55 Doctorbeat wrote:
A few questions on Muramana here: Does it work with Twitch ult? And how? Does it deal 6% of current mana to all who get hit by spray and pray?

Also, has anyone tried AP Koggles yet? I know that it probably sucks due to the huge amount of assassins and gap closers, but is the damage potential still huge? Maybe a tankier build could work? (Tear+Catalyst into RoA+Rylai?

He's been nerfed after competitive usage showed him to be OP—first to his base damage, then to his sustainable damage by raising the cap on his ult's mana cost for consecutive uses.
(Even when played AD his used had always surprised me with the excellent base damage it had so that even played like that you could expend some mana to finish off somebody or soften the enemy duo before a dive. Noone really minded it till AP Kog became popular tho.)

On January 09 2013 08:03 Doctorbeat wrote:
On January 09 2013 08:01 TheYango wrote:
It's really funny how underbought pinks are given how everyone is in the habit of warding the cookie-cutter ward locations every time.


I tend to carry pinks all the time as support. Philo+Pick and sightstone for me normal wards make pinks very affordable. They give you great area control, and carrying a pink in a teamfight with an Akali or a Eve is huge.

Philo, Kage, Boots, Sightstone, Pinks... and only one slot for components/finished items after that?


I get my boots pretty late, and that leftover slot is usually used for Bulwark. After that I finish up Shurelia/Shard/Twins if I want them or sell the gp/10 item when necessary.

On many supports I'll have sightstone+1 gp/10 before I have my boots. I also run gp/10 runes, money in the bank.

really think you need a free spot for wards too, esp if your team is like not warding well.
3 wards cant cover all the spots you really need warded
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 08 2013 23:31 GMT
#6891
NA brackets comes out in 2 hours according to NomNom's agent
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 08 2013 23:37 GMT
#6892
On January 09 2013 08:31 onlywonderboy wrote:
NA brackets comes out in 2 hours according to NomNom's agent


No pun intended, right? huehue
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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
January 08 2013 23:37 GMT
#6893
On January 09 2013 08:29 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:13 Vlanitak wrote:
Epik Gamer vs FXO eSports @ 6:30p PST! http://www.twitch.tv/ipllol come watch guys

I don't see anything on their site, what's this from?

As a sidenote, holy crap LoL is bigger in Brazil than I thought. 22k viewers for a BR qualifier,


That is from me talking with Torch and FXO's manager and setting up so that the EG vs FXO scrim is now a killing spree match instead
washed
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
January 08 2013 23:37 GMT
#6894
On January 09 2013 08:26 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:13 Vlanitak wrote:
Epik Gamer vs FXO eSports @ 6:30p PST! http://www.twitch.tv/ipllol come watch guys


That don't look like no fxo vs eg.


6:30 pst is in 3 hours lol
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 08 2013 23:39 GMT
#6895
On January 09 2013 08:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:31 onlywonderboy wrote:
NA brackets comes out in 2 hours according to NomNom's agent


No pun intended, right? huehue

Lol I guess his technical title is manager, but I prefer agent Agent.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
January 08 2013 23:58 GMT
#6896
Voyboy crushing with Tankarina. Is this the new FotM Kat build? (Warmogs, Sunfire, Guise, mercs, spirit visage)
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 08 2013 23:59 GMT
#6897
On January 09 2013 08:58 Amethyst21 wrote:
Voyboy crushing with Tankarina. Is this the new FotM Kat build? (Warmogs, Sunfire, Guise, mercs, spirit visage)


It's taking the "must get the reset" to the extreme
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 09 2013 00:02 GMT
#6898
Looks like there was reason to be skeptic about IPL6, no mention of LoL...
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 09 2013 00:02 GMT
#6899
On January 09 2013 08:58 Amethyst21 wrote:
Voyboy crushing with Tankarina. Is this the new FotM Kat build? (Warmogs, Sunfire, Guise, mercs, spirit visage)

doesnt do any damage though
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
January 09 2013 00:06 GMT
#6900
On January 09 2013 09:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
Looks like there was reason to be skeptic about IPL6, no mention of LoL...


That doesn't make sense to me... LoL brings in the biggest amount of viewers. >_>;
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