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c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
January 05 2013 18:41 GMT
#5921
On January 06 2013 03:35 rackdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 03:28 YouGotNothin wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:07 Nytefish wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:04 YouGotNothin wrote:
Something I have only recently noticed from watching some pro streams (Dyrus and Xpeke) is that they actively toggle camera lock on and off. I suppose this is to better keep track of their champs in teamfights and reduce the amount of screen scrolling needed. Are there other reasons and is this all that common? Should I start doing this?


I like to hold down space rather than toggle the lock. If it helps you then do it.


Ah I guess this is what they are doing, don't know why I've not noticed this before, time to try it out!


It wasn't until season three that the eye at the bottom changed to locked when you held down space.


Wow I never noticed that - I hold space to center the camera like most other players, but I know that Dyrus does toggle locked camera on/off. He used to play with the camera locked the vast majority of the time, but I think he's moved away from that.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 05 2013 18:45 GMT
#5922
On January 06 2013 03:41 c.Deadly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 03:35 rackdude wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:28 YouGotNothin wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:07 Nytefish wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:04 YouGotNothin wrote:
Something I have only recently noticed from watching some pro streams (Dyrus and Xpeke) is that they actively toggle camera lock on and off. I suppose this is to better keep track of their champs in teamfights and reduce the amount of screen scrolling needed. Are there other reasons and is this all that common? Should I start doing this?


I like to hold down space rather than toggle the lock. If it helps you then do it.


Ah I guess this is what they are doing, don't know why I've not noticed this before, time to try it out!


It wasn't until season three that the eye at the bottom changed to locked when you held down space.


Wow I never noticed that - I hold space to center the camera like most other players, but I know that Dyrus does toggle locked camera on/off. He used to play with the camera locked the vast majority of the time, but I think he's moved away from that.

Doublelift is the worst offender of locked camera.
liftlift > tsm
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
January 05 2013 19:19 GMT
#5923
On January 05 2013 06:46 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:38 zulu_nation8 wrote:
from mass gaming solo queue recently, i feel like khazix solo, eve jungle, and to a lesser extent, panth, and to an even lesser extent, ezreal, are the blatant OPs right now in solo queue.

How do you jungle eve? Like the way Dan does?

I really enjoy playing Eve jungle in soloQ, you just stomp since you can pick off loners or stragglers so easily with DFG, and they never have any idea where you are.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 05 2013 19:32 GMT
#5924
no thread for it, but TSM invitational starts today
we're in round 1 right now, official stream on solomid has myR Rampage and FeaR

but more importantly you can catch my team, DnG, stomping on Curse, on saint's stream:
http://www.solomid.net/livestream.php?s=3893
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 05 2013 19:45 GMT
#5925
SV has Machete, doesn't upgrade it to SS, buys Philo instead.

Makes sense
It's your boy Guzma!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 19:47:59
January 05 2013 19:46 GMT
#5926
On January 06 2013 04:32 gtrsrs wrote:
no thread for it, but TSM invitational starts today
we're in round 1 right now, official stream on solomid has myR Rampage and FeaR

but more importantly you can catch my team, DnG, stomping on Curse, on saint's stream:
http://www.solomid.net/livestream.php?s=3893


just tuned in and saw 7:13 in favour of your team just to see a clean 5:0 ace 5seconds later for curse. lol

holy shit DNG 5v5 Teamfighting is bad.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
January 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#5927
On January 06 2013 04:32 gtrsrs wrote:
no thread for it, but TSM invitational starts today
we're in round 1 right now, official stream on solomid has myR Rampage and FeaR

but more importantly you can catch my team, DnG, stomping on Curse, on saint's stream:
http://www.solomid.net/livestream.php?s=3893


Why did you have to jinx it!
No I'm never serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 19:49:26
January 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#5928
On January 06 2013 04:32 gtrsrs wrote:
no thread for it, but TSM invitational starts today
we're in round 1 right now, official stream on solomid has myR Rampage and FeaR

but more importantly you can catch my team, DnG, stomping on Curse, on saint's stream:
http://www.solomid.net/livestream.php?s=3893

lol, so much for stomping on curse.

that's the thing about top teams though, they can lose lane, yet salvage games due to superior teamfighting / strategy. its only something exp can teach.
On January 06 2013 04:46 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 04:32 gtrsrs wrote:
no thread for it, but TSM invitational starts today
we're in round 1 right now, official stream on solomid has myR Rampage and FeaR

but more importantly you can catch my team, DnG, stomping on Curse, on saint's stream:
http://www.solomid.net/livestream.php?s=3893


just tuned in and saw 7:13 in favour of your team just to see a clean 5:0 ace 5seconds later for curse. lol

holy shit DNG 5v5 Teamfighting is bad.


that fight near mid turret, was really bad by DNG, missed ori ulti, and ashe ulti only hit lulu, should've been dng win. But ashe way too big, at that end.
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 05 2013 19:49 GMT
#5929
Three 5:0 aces in a row. Yeesh.
It's your boy Guzma!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 05 2013 19:50 GMT
#5930
oh my god the throws
OH MY GOD
THE THROWS
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 05 2013 19:51 GMT
#5931
On January 06 2013 04:50 gtrsrs wrote:
oh my god the throws
OH MY GOD
THE THROWS

I dunno if it was throws... You guys didn't really do anything "wrong" per se.
liftlift > tsm
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 05 2013 19:52 GMT
#5932
yeah, everyone eating ashe ult + ori ult in like 4 out of 5 fights really hurt
i know that experience means a ton for teamfighting but holy shit i did not expect that to turn around that hard
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 05 2013 19:53 GMT
#5933
At least it's not like you were completely outclassed :D

You guys are kind of like TD, winning lane but cant put it together. But that will come ^_^
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 05 2013 19:54 GMT
#5934
On January 06 2013 04:52 gtrsrs wrote:
yeah, everyone eating ashe ult + ori ult in like 4 out of 5 fights really hurt
i know that experience means a ton for teamfighting but holy shit i did not expect that to turn around that hard

I think it also had to do with team comp, you guys have perfect midgame team comp that are good in 3v3 or smaller skirmishes, but in terms of team fighting, Curse had you guys beat by a shit ton in team comp.

Maybe you guys should have tried to split push that one out, rather than grouping? Biggest issue I thought was when you guys were grouping for blue; should have pressured mid out first, before objectives; especially at that stage of game.
liftlift > tsm
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 05 2013 19:55 GMT
#5935
On January 06 2013 01:23 Shikyo wrote:
Hmmm so who does well against the common assassins mid(Kha'Zix, Talon etc)? I've been thinking about Fizz because he seems to be really good agaisnt most melees and can pressure them easily from as soon as level 2. I don't really like assassin vs assassin and going standard ap vs assassin feels like suicide.

Cho.
currently rooting for myself.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 05 2013 19:55 GMT
#5936
my team is just so afraid to lose sometimes, that they won't try to win (aka when ashe arrow is down). they realize it, hopefully they can just turn it this game
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 05 2013 19:59 GMT
#5937
On January 06 2013 04:55 gtrsrs wrote:
my team is just so afraid to lose sometimes, that they won't try to win (aka when ashe arrow is down). they realize it, hopefully they can just turn it this game

It's just the evolution of teams I've noticed. New teams still focus on "win lane win game" type comps. slightly older team focus more towards "team fighting comps". the most experienced teams tend to focus more on "strategy + win lane comps".
liftlift > tsm
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 05 2013 20:10 GMT
#5938
On January 06 2013 04:55 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 01:23 Shikyo wrote:
Hmmm so who does well against the common assassins mid(Kha'Zix, Talon etc)? I've been thinking about Fizz because he seems to be really good agaisnt most melees and can pressure them easily from as soon as level 2. I don't really like assassin vs assassin and going standard ap vs assassin feels like suicide.

Cho.


Elise man, they cant CS at all and you just sit there like "c'mon, jump on me bro" and then once they get really frustrated they jump on you and you fucking blow your load all over them and kill them instantly.

OPOPOP
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 20:27:47
January 05 2013 20:24 GMT
#5939
this game seems pretty firmly in our favor, lee sin had 0 impact early, cho is gonna get big regardless of anything, olaf is a beast

PLEASE DNG MAKE ME PROUD :3

of course, saint never presses tab so i can't see farm differential*


DAT OUTPLAY
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 05 2013 20:26 GMT
#5940
Has saint ever done well with lee?I have never seen it happen.And he maxes e.....
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