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On January 06 2013 01:53 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 01:32 Cloud9157 wrote:EU is overall much better than NA imo. Fnatic resurgence while M5+CLG.EU(are they stll called that for now?) are still proving they can hang with the asians. Hell, I have to wonder how SK compares to NA teams, because I want to say even they are better. A small note I have came up with after seeing the Blitz nerf: Its nice, but its not the issue. For me anyway, the problem is that he has one move that can change the entire flow of a game, in addition to having a larger lane presence than pretty much any other support. His kit is his problem, but they can't even "fix it" without ruining him entirely. Also, he encourages safe play more than any other champion to me. If one member of your team gets grabbed, its over. No one wants to wander in too far or facecheck bushes out of fear of the giant metal hand grabbing them. On January 06 2013 01:23 Shikyo wrote:
Hmmm so who does well against the common assassins mid(Kha'Zix, Talon etc)? I've been thinking about Fizz because he seems to be really good agaisnt most melees and can pressure them easily from as soon as level 2. I don't really like assassin vs assassin and going standard ap vs assassin feels like suicide. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Viktor is the answer. Best champ in the game. Anyone who can poke decently against them would do ok. Though since half the assassins have sustain (scyther+lee sin come to mind), not sure how good your poke will do. Honestly, I just try and farm the lane while trying not to die more than once or twice. Can't say I agree. SK was the only team to drop a game to an NA team at worlds (CLG) and I've never really been that impressed with their performances. Pretty much the biggest thing they accomplished was finishing 2nd at the EU Regionals. I think the top NA teams can beat SK fairly consistently (well maybe not TSM in their current state, but I think Curse, CLG, and Dig could).
I wouldn't really fault SK for their loss to CLG at s2 worlds. anyone who saw that game knows how hard CLG stole that at the end there.
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I think SK is like a top8 of the scene. All the members are medicore
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On January 06 2013 01:56 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 01:53 onlywonderboy wrote:On January 06 2013 01:32 Cloud9157 wrote:EU is overall much better than NA imo. Fnatic resurgence while M5+CLG.EU(are they stll called that for now?) are still proving they can hang with the asians. Hell, I have to wonder how SK compares to NA teams, because I want to say even they are better. A small note I have came up with after seeing the Blitz nerf: Its nice, but its not the issue. For me anyway, the problem is that he has one move that can change the entire flow of a game, in addition to having a larger lane presence than pretty much any other support. His kit is his problem, but they can't even "fix it" without ruining him entirely. Also, he encourages safe play more than any other champion to me. If one member of your team gets grabbed, its over. No one wants to wander in too far or facecheck bushes out of fear of the giant metal hand grabbing them. On January 06 2013 01:23 Shikyo wrote:
Hmmm so who does well against the common assassins mid(Kha'Zix, Talon etc)? I've been thinking about Fizz because he seems to be really good agaisnt most melees and can pressure them easily from as soon as level 2. I don't really like assassin vs assassin and going standard ap vs assassin feels like suicide. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Viktor is the answer. Best champ in the game. Anyone who can poke decently against them would do ok. Though since half the assassins have sustain (scyther+lee sin come to mind), not sure how good your poke will do. Honestly, I just try and farm the lane while trying not to die more than once or twice. Can't say I agree. SK was the only team to drop a game to an NA team at worlds (CLG) and I've never really been that impressed with their performances. Pretty much the biggest thing they accomplished was finishing 2nd at the EU Regionals. I think the top NA teams can beat SK fairly consistently (well maybe not TSM in their current state, but I think Curse, CLG, and Dig could). I wouldn't really fault SK for their loss to CLG at s2 worlds. anyone who saw that game knows how hard CLG stole that at the end there.
True, but if SK was that much better than CLG they should have been able to crush them in lane harder to the point where they couldn't even take middle inhib so the base race should have never happened. I think SK was better but not that much better, but I think CLG is a better team now, which I can't say the same about SK.
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About leaguepedia, some of the information it has is outdated and so I'm generally using leagueoflegends.wikia.com
I think that CLG is all about Doublelift carrying them and thus they're going to be quite vulnerable to strategies centered around shutting Doublelift down because the solo lanes can't really pull their weight. Unless HSGG gets Nidalee, I guess.
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On January 06 2013 02:33 Shikyo wrote:
About leaguepedia, some of the information it has is outdated and so I'm generally using leagueoflegends.wikia.com
I think that CLG is all about Doublelift carrying them and thus they're going to be quite vulnerable to strategies centered around shutting Doublelift down because the solo lanes can't really pull their weight. Unless HSGG gets Nidalee, I guess.
Wow you really did take a while off. HSGG's nidalee is 100% gone now. the new nidalee is 100% always ad nidalee.
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On January 06 2013 02:37 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 02:33 Shikyo wrote:
About leaguepedia, some of the information it has is outdated and so I'm generally using leagueoflegends.wikia.com
I think that CLG is all about Doublelift carrying them and thus they're going to be quite vulnerable to strategies centered around shutting Doublelift down because the solo lanes can't really pull their weight. Unless HSGG gets Nidalee, I guess. Wow you really did take a while off. HSGG's nidalee is 100% gone now. the new nidalee is 100% always ad nidalee.
I definitely did, though I'm pretty sure I saw him play Nidalee in one game where he did well(although I only semi-watched it while playing maple story)
I also saw Nidalee banned vs them~
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Yea he did well last time he was on nid, which got her banned the next game.
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On January 06 2013 02:40 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 02:37 Sermokala wrote:On January 06 2013 02:33 Shikyo wrote:
About leaguepedia, some of the information it has is outdated and so I'm generally using leagueoflegends.wikia.com
I think that CLG is all about Doublelift carrying them and thus they're going to be quite vulnerable to strategies centered around shutting Doublelift down because the solo lanes can't really pull their weight. Unless HSGG gets Nidalee, I guess. Wow you really did take a while off. HSGG's nidalee is 100% gone now. the new nidalee is 100% always ad nidalee. I definitely did, though I'm pretty sure I saw him play Nidalee in one game where he did well(although I only semi-watched it while playing maple story) I also saw Nidalee banned vs them~
Yeah, he recently just carried a game with Nid, might have been ESL or something. His Nid is still pretty scary, worthy of the respect ban. Also it limits his already tiny champ pool.
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Something I have only recently noticed from watching some pro streams (Dyrus and Xpeke) is that they actively toggle camera lock on and off. I suppose this is to better keep track of their champs in teamfights and reduce the amount of screen scrolling needed. Are there other reasons and is this all that common? Should I start doing this?
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Don't misunderstand me, Rekless is good, but it's nRated who made Fnatic botlane so good.
People always forget the support it's sad.
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On January 06 2013 03:04 YouGotNothin wrote:
Something I have only recently noticed from watching some pro streams (Dyrus and Xpeke) is that they actively toggle camera lock on and off. I suppose this is to better keep track of their champs in teamfights and reduce the amount of screen scrolling needed. Are there other reasons and is this all that common? Should I start doing this?
I like to hold down space rather than toggle the lock. If it helps you then do it.
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i still don't understand how lux having a million damage enormous range nuke on 24s cooldown is balanced LOL
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On January 06 2013 03:07 Nytefish wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 03:04 YouGotNothin wrote:
Something I have only recently noticed from watching some pro streams (Dyrus and Xpeke) is that they actively toggle camera lock on and off. I suppose this is to better keep track of their champs in teamfights and reduce the amount of screen scrolling needed. Are there other reasons and is this all that common? Should I start doing this? I like to hold down space rather than toggle the lock. If it helps you then do it.
Ah I guess this is what they are doing, don't know why I've not noticed this before, time to try it out!
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On January 06 2013 03:28 YouGotNothin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 03:07 Nytefish wrote:On January 06 2013 03:04 YouGotNothin wrote:
Something I have only recently noticed from watching some pro streams (Dyrus and Xpeke) is that they actively toggle camera lock on and off. I suppose this is to better keep track of their champs in teamfights and reduce the amount of screen scrolling needed. Are there other reasons and is this all that common? Should I start doing this? I like to hold down space rather than toggle the lock. If it helps you then do it. Ah I guess this is what they are doing, don't know why I've not noticed this before, time to try it out!
It wasn't until season three that the eye at the bottom changed to locked when you held down space.
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Prediction: The live qualifiers for Season 3 is going to serve as the public unveiling of Riot's competitive arenas that they were rumored to be building. There were reports Riot is bulding areans for Season 3, the only possible location of the live qualifier that has been mentioned is Riot HQ which could easily be changed, and people have dropped hints that they are going to make a big production of the live qualifiers and there is stuff about it they can't talk about.
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On January 06 2013 03:09 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
i still don't understand how lux having a million damage enormous range nuke on 24s cooldown is balanced LOL
because she's fairly easy to freefarm vs in lane, pick good scaling champion or assassin, ???, Profit.
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Can I advertise my stream in the thread I have here if I'm not playing LoL?
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On January 06 2013 03:36 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 03:09 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
i still don't understand how lux having a million damage enormous range nuke on 24s cooldown is balanced LOL because she's fairly easy to freefarm vs in lane, pick good scaling champion or assassin, ???, Profit.
and then laning phase ends and she's poking your team for half their hp every 30 seconds :p
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On January 06 2013 03:09 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
i still don't understand how lux having a million damage enormous range nuke on 24s cooldown is balanced LOL
Lux has never been a problem champ imo.... its one of the few very well balanced champs in game...
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