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On January 05 2013 15:05 plasmidghost wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 15:01 Amethyst21 wrote:On January 05 2013 14:48 OutlaW- wrote:
I've been watching CLG's streams every night for the past month. They lose lane against obviously inferior teams 50% of the time, but still end up winning because their mid and late game is just that much better. If they were playing good teams, they would lose all those games. Their level 1 is weak. Jiji sucks at roaming and pressuring the other guy (he got 0 plays off once in a veigar vs karthus lane. I cringed) In some cases Aphromoo fed. Hotshot crumbles in his 1v2 after his tower dies. Hotshot (unless he's playing nidalee) doesn't win lane. In the end their biggest problem is having no pressure from their solo lanes. If their bottom feeds, as well, they're usually doomed.
Regardless of how fed or how big an advantage he has, jiji will never exert map dominance. Ever. This is their biggest problem right now.
My thoughts aren't very clear. They are still a really good team but they are relying 100% on chauster for their early game. Against really good teams this will not be good enough. Agree with most of those, but the one thing CLG does well is that they create space for Doublelift to farm, and against lesser teams they don't want to lane 2v2 vs Doublelift and Hoshot for all his well documented flaws is a pretty good 1v2 laner though his decisionmaking post his tower dying is poor, as you said. I think that Jiji is probably their biggest problem. He's not aggressive, he doesn't farm well, he barely roams, in fact he has no significant strengths other than the 1 in 10 times the old jiji shows up and he wins his lane. At least Hotshot does some things well, jiji really doesn't anymore. Still any team that has Doublelift is going to win a certain % of their games just from the fact he is so damn good There are some times I almost feel bad for Doublelift. I think he would be much better with a new team, and I'm pretty sure any decent team would love to snap him up should he ever leave CLG, but I don't know his thoughts on that. Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 14:57 cascades wrote:On January 05 2013 14:37 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:On January 05 2013 14:31 plasmidghost wrote:On January 05 2013 14:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
THE SITUATION HAS BEEN RESOLVED. This guy is the best. Shoutout to him for helping me.  #morehandsomethanSufficiency2k13 Bonus: Thanks to Sufficiency for almost helping. =p Damn straight.
There's not a single NA team that would significantly improve with doublelift on them.
It's a matter of changing CLG, not DL moving to new team.
Have Link115 play mid; jiji in bench position is the best move right now, if possible. But jiji too much leverage/weight for clg to just move him to bench.
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On January 05 2013 15:16 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 15:05 plasmidghost wrote:On January 05 2013 15:01 Amethyst21 wrote:On January 05 2013 14:48 OutlaW- wrote:
I've been watching CLG's streams every night for the past month. They lose lane against obviously inferior teams 50% of the time, but still end up winning because their mid and late game is just that much better. If they were playing good teams, they would lose all those games. Their level 1 is weak. Jiji sucks at roaming and pressuring the other guy (he got 0 plays off once in a veigar vs karthus lane. I cringed) In some cases Aphromoo fed. Hotshot crumbles in his 1v2 after his tower dies. Hotshot (unless he's playing nidalee) doesn't win lane. In the end their biggest problem is having no pressure from their solo lanes. If their bottom feeds, as well, they're usually doomed.
Regardless of how fed or how big an advantage he has, jiji will never exert map dominance. Ever. This is their biggest problem right now.
My thoughts aren't very clear. They are still a really good team but they are relying 100% on chauster for their early game. Against really good teams this will not be good enough. Agree with most of those, but the one thing CLG does well is that they create space for Doublelift to farm, and against lesser teams they don't want to lane 2v2 vs Doublelift and Hoshot for all his well documented flaws is a pretty good 1v2 laner though his decisionmaking post his tower dying is poor, as you said. I think that Jiji is probably their biggest problem. He's not aggressive, he doesn't farm well, he barely roams, in fact he has no significant strengths other than the 1 in 10 times the old jiji shows up and he wins his lane. At least Hotshot does some things well, jiji really doesn't anymore. Still any team that has Doublelift is going to win a certain % of their games just from the fact he is so damn good There are some times I almost feel bad for Doublelift. I think he would be much better with a new team, and I'm pretty sure any decent team would love to snap him up should he ever leave CLG, but I don't know his thoughts on that. On January 05 2013 14:57 cascades wrote:On January 05 2013 14:37 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:On January 05 2013 14:31 plasmidghost wrote:On January 05 2013 14:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
THE SITUATION HAS BEEN RESOLVED. This guy is the best. Shoutout to him for helping me. #morehandsomethanSufficiency2k13 Bonus: Thanks to Sufficiency for almost helping. =p Damn straight. There's not a single NA team that would significantly improve with doublelift on them. It's a matter of changing CLG, not DL moving to new team. Have Link115 play mid; jiji in bench position is the best move right now, if possible. But jiji too much leverage/weight for clg to just move him to bench.
That probably would be best overall for now, at least better than getting used to a completely new team.
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On January 05 2013 14:55 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 14:49 plasmidghost wrote:On January 05 2013 14:39 obesechicken13 wrote:
There's a jungling change in PBE. All small jungle mobs are having their health cut in half. Personally I don't like the change. I think it will make nocturne really strong while bringing back fiddle and warwick a bit. Still doesn't fix the issue that junglers are just supports who can sometimes take damage in mid->late game. Tryn, Fiora, Kha, Jax, and Rammus also have a lot to gain.
If anything it makes wriggles better at fighting jungle monsters since there won't be as many chances of overkill. Jungle will do less damage though. Why 50%? That seems way too much. At most it should be 25%, I think. http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15xc26/pbe_little_jungle_change/Link. What can we do to stop it though? Better just embrace the jungle changes.
It's already been changed though lol, read Moobeat's reply to the top comment in the Reddit thread. Their health has been lowered by about 1/3 instead of 1/2.
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Best case scenario: Jiji gets benched, finds the super saiyan within him, analyzes really good midders like froggen or misaya and becomes world class player. CLG goes on to win S3, capture the moon and throw galaxies at a danger threatening to destroy earth. gg.
It has to happen. Link only exists for Jiji to realize his own weakness and rekindle his passion for being the best. Jiji is the main character. Riot please. + Show Spoiler +
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On January 05 2013 15:19 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 14:55 obesechicken13 wrote:On January 05 2013 14:49 plasmidghost wrote:On January 05 2013 14:39 obesechicken13 wrote:
There's a jungling change in PBE. All small jungle mobs are having their health cut in half. Personally I don't like the change. I think it will make nocturne really strong while bringing back fiddle and warwick a bit. Still doesn't fix the issue that junglers are just supports who can sometimes take damage in mid->late game. Tryn, Fiora, Kha, Jax, and Rammus also have a lot to gain.
If anything it makes wriggles better at fighting jungle monsters since there won't be as many chances of overkill. Jungle will do less damage though. Why 50%? That seems way too much. At most it should be 25%, I think. http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15xc26/pbe_little_jungle_change/Link. What can we do to stop it though? Better just embrace the jungle changes. It's already been changed though lol, read Moobeat's reply to the top comment in the Reddit thread. Their health has been lowered by about 1/3 instead of 1/2.
Ah, much better.
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On January 05 2013 15:23 OutlaW- wrote:Best case scenario: Jiji gets benched, finds the super saiyan within him, analyzes really good midders like froggen or misaya and becomes world class player. CLG goes on to win S3, capture the moon and throw galaxies at a danger threatening to destroy earth. gg.It has to happen. Link only exists for Jiji to realize his own weakness and rekindle his passion for being the best. Jiji is the main character. Riot please. + Show Spoiler +
What is this, TTGL?
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On January 05 2013 15:23 OutlaW- wrote:Best case scenario: Jiji gets benched, finds the super saiyan within him, analyzes really good midders like froggen or misaya and becomes world class player. CLG goes on to win S3, capture the moon and throw galaxies at a danger threatening to destroy earth. gg. It has to happen. Link only exists for Jiji to realize his own weakness and rekindle his passion for being the best. Jiji is the main character. Riot please. + Show Spoiler +
Not the base case scenario, the only case scenario.
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Mundo is really good now I feel
Warmogs buffed
spirit visage buff
locket is interesting
anyone think liandry's is cute on him? DEM CLEAVERS
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On January 05 2013 15:49 Elite00fm wrote:
Mundo is really good now I feel
Warmogs buffed
spirit visage buff
locket is interesting
anyone think liandry's is cute on him? DEM CLEAVERS
his early jungle blows imo. I did it once, felt so fragile in first run through, i must of done something wrong.
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Run hp/5 quints. You can always base after full clearing your jungle at level 4 if your lanes aren't failing that hard.
Apparently Morello will be nerfing AD casters. My rage knows no bounds right now.
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On January 05 2013 15:55 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 15:49 Elite00fm wrote:
Mundo is really good now I feel
Warmogs buffed
spirit visage buff
locket is interesting
anyone think liandry's is cute on him? DEM CLEAVERS his early jungle blows imo. I did it once, felt so fragile in first run through, i must of done something wrong.
he def isnt fragile, sometimes i even steal enemy red and duel with it at like level 3 and still run shit
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On January 05 2013 15:55 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 15:49 Elite00fm wrote:
Mundo is really good now I feel
Warmogs buffed
spirit visage buff
locket is interesting
anyone think liandry's is cute on him? DEM CLEAVERS his early jungle blows imo. I did it once, felt so fragile in first run through, i must of done something wrong.
how are you running it?
i start cloth5 wqqe and dont really get low
hybrid pen reds/armor yellow/scaling mr blue/movespeed quint (thinking of changing these to hp or hp5 maybe even hybrid pen if i can ever afford them)
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Im thinking of trying Kassadin a bit after seeing it done well. How does one Kass properly?
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Is there any reason at all to use the rune combiner? If so, which runes should I combine?
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On January 05 2013 16:22 plasmidghost wrote:
Is there any reason at all to use the rune combiner? If so, which runes should I combine?
Only for low lvl runes if you have any.
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On January 05 2013 16:24 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 16:22 plasmidghost wrote:
Is there any reason at all to use the rune combiner? If so, which runes should I combine? Only for low lvl runes if you have any.
It won't work with Tier 3, just Tier 1/2?
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It will, but there's no point to do it.
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On January 05 2013 06:46 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 06:38 zulu_nation8 wrote:
from mass gaming solo queue recently, i feel like khazix solo, eve jungle, and to a lesser extent, panth, and to an even lesser extent, ezreal, are the blatant OPs right now in solo queue. How do you jungle eve? Like the way Dan does?
yep, his eve is broken, azingy does a less broken style
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On January 05 2013 16:25 OutlaW- wrote:
It will, but there's no point to do it.
Oh, okay. Guess it needs to be buffed.
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