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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 05 2013 05:31 GMT
#5801
On January 05 2013 14:07 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 13:52 HazMat wrote:
On January 05 2013 12:56 plasmidghost wrote:
On January 05 2013 12:42 OutlaW- wrote:
Never! Are you saying you're ashamed of your heritage? Stay true to your ancestors!

I'm not ashamed, i just don't want ot confuse people. But I do want to say true to my ancestry, so I'll stay Czech on TL.

Dobře.

(I should probably switch back to Czech as well :X)

How good is your Czech? Would you be able to have a conversation with me?

Yeah. My writing isn't great though, like I have trouble with I vs Y and stuff like that. Conversational Czech is good though since that's what I speak in my house. Just the more advanced words I don't know and sometimes I'll space out and forget how to say something really simple.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
January 05 2013 05:31 GMT
#5802
Debating on whether or not to wait to see if my friends show up to play some ARAMs or try to crawl out of the Elo hole I've been stuck in. Decisions, decisions.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 05 2013 05:33 GMT
#5803
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 05 2013 05:37 GMT
#5804
On January 05 2013 14:31 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 14:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
THE SITUATION HAS BEEN RESOLVED.

This guy is the best. Shoutout to him for helping me.




#morehandsomethanSufficiency2k13
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 05 2013 05:39 GMT
#5805
On January 05 2013 14:31 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 14:07 OutlaW- wrote:
On January 05 2013 13:52 HazMat wrote:
On January 05 2013 12:56 plasmidghost wrote:
On January 05 2013 12:42 OutlaW- wrote:
Never! Are you saying you're ashamed of your heritage? Stay true to your ancestors!

I'm not ashamed, i just don't want ot confuse people. But I do want to say true to my ancestry, so I'll stay Czech on TL.

Dobře.

(I should probably switch back to Czech as well :X)

How good is your Czech? Would you be able to have a conversation with me?

Yeah. My writing isn't great though, like I have trouble with I vs Y and stuff like that. Conversational Czech is good though since that's what I speak in my house. Just the more advanced words I don't know and sometimes I'll space out and forget how to say something really simple.

You should stream while commentating in czech like once a week. For the fans! :D
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 05:46:22
January 05 2013 05:39 GMT
#5806
There's a jungling change in PBE. All small jungle mobs are having their health cut in half. Personally I don't like the change. I think it will make nocturne really strong while bringing back fiddle and warwick a bit. Still doesn't fix the issue that junglers are just supports who can sometimes take damage in mid->late game. Tryn, Fiora, Kha, Jax, and Rammus also have a lot to gain.

If anything it makes wriggles better at fighting jungle monsters since there won't be as many chances of overkill. Jungle will do less damage though.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
January 05 2013 05:41 GMT
#5807
On January 05 2013 14:33 plasmidghost wrote:
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On January 05 2013 14:30 koreasilver wrote:
You know, I just realized just how much CLG's team environment has changed. I mean, if we look back to when literally everyone was raging at each other with the exception of jiji (although it mostly was saint/hotshot), and look at how they act towards each other nowadays by constantly cracking jokes and laughing with/at each other, it's like a different world. It's been like this for a while now too - I can't even remember when it got to this point.

I guess I didn't see that recently, but at MLG Dallas they were constantly raging, especially really hard after their loss to CLG EU. Hotshot started yelling at Loco and Doublelift, then Doublelift and Chauster started yelling back at Hotshot and Loco just left the booth. jiji did nothing, so I guess he's had to go through that quite a bit.

You're seeing here because they're against an easy opponent and having fun trolling. Half the battles Chauster isn't even there and they're engaging and winning 4v5.

Against a competitive opponent they won't be like that.

Although the atmosphere is definitely better than when saint was there.

Still waiting for top NA teams to practice against each other though. Watching some of their scrims it feels like they're trolling half of the time because the difference in level is just too much.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 05 2013 05:48 GMT
#5808
I've been watching CLG's streams every night for the past month. They lose lane against obviously inferior teams 50% of the time, but still end up winning because their mid and late game is just that much better. If they were playing good teams, they would lose all those games. Their level 1 is weak. Jiji sucks at roaming and pressuring the other guy (he got 0 plays off once in a veigar vs karthus lane. I cringed) In some cases Aphromoo fed. Hotshot crumbles in his 1v2 after his tower dies. Hotshot (unless he's playing nidalee) doesn't win lane. In the end their biggest problem is having no pressure from their solo lanes. If their bottom feeds, as well, they're usually doomed.
Regardless of how fed or how big an advantage he has, jiji will never exert map dominance. Ever. This is their biggest problem right now.
My thoughts aren't very clear. They are still a really good team but they are relying 100% on chauster for their early game. Against really good teams this will not be good enough.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 05 2013 05:48 GMT
#5809
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 05 2013 05:49 GMT
#5810
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 05:55:49
January 05 2013 05:53 GMT
#5811
I never really understood why Saint even joined CLG; from watching HSGGs streaming in 2010 it seemed like they really hated each other. I didn't really get proved wrong either during Saint's time with the team.


Random thought about CLG: I'd say that Chauster plays 4 out of 5 roles the best out of CLG. That's pretty... well, yeah.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 05:56:11
January 05 2013 05:55 GMT
#5812
On January 05 2013 14:49 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 14:39 obesechicken13 wrote:
There's a jungling change in PBE. All small jungle mobs are having their health cut in half. Personally I don't like the change. I think it will make nocturne really strong while bringing back fiddle and warwick a bit. Still doesn't fix the issue that junglers are just supports who can sometimes take damage in mid->late game. Tryn, Fiora, Kha, Jax, and Rammus also have a lot to gain.

If anything it makes wriggles better at fighting jungle monsters since there won't be as many chances of overkill. Jungle will do less damage though.

Why 50%? That seems way too much. At most it should be 25%, I think.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15xc26/pbe_little_jungle_change/

Link. What can we do to stop it though? Better just embrace the jungle changes.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 05 2013 05:56 GMT
#5813
On January 05 2013 14:53 Shikyo wrote:
I never really understood why Saint even joined CLG; from watching HSGGs streaming in 2010 it seemed like they really hated each other. I didn't really get proved wrong either during Saint's time with the team.

Actually they liked each other quite a bit. Hotshot even said that he misses Saint despite him being a terrible teammate and liar.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
January 05 2013 05:57 GMT
#5814
On January 05 2013 14:37 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 14:31 plasmidghost wrote:
On January 05 2013 14:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
THE SITUATION HAS BEEN RESOLVED.

This guy is the best. Shoutout to him for helping me.




#morehandsomethanSufficiency2k13


Bonus: Thanks to Sufficiency for almost helping. =p
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
January 05 2013 06:01 GMT
#5815
On January 05 2013 14:48 OutlaW- wrote:
I've been watching CLG's streams every night for the past month. They lose lane against obviously inferior teams 50% of the time, but still end up winning because their mid and late game is just that much better. If they were playing good teams, they would lose all those games. Their level 1 is weak. Jiji sucks at roaming and pressuring the other guy (he got 0 plays off once in a veigar vs karthus lane. I cringed) In some cases Aphromoo fed. Hotshot crumbles in his 1v2 after his tower dies. Hotshot (unless he's playing nidalee) doesn't win lane. In the end their biggest problem is having no pressure from their solo lanes. If their bottom feeds, as well, they're usually doomed.
Regardless of how fed or how big an advantage he has, jiji will never exert map dominance. Ever. This is their biggest problem right now.
My thoughts aren't very clear. They are still a really good team but they are relying 100% on chauster for their early game. Against really good teams this will not be good enough.


Agree with most of those, but the one thing CLG does well is that they create space for Doublelift to farm, and against lesser teams they don't want to lane 2v2 vs Doublelift and Hoshot for all his well documented flaws is a pretty good 1v2 laner though his decisionmaking post his tower dying is poor, as you said.
I think that Jiji is probably their biggest problem. He's not aggressive, he doesn't farm well, he barely roams, in fact he has no significant strengths other than the 1 in 10 times the old jiji shows up and he wins his lane. At least Hotshot does some things well, jiji really doesn't anymore.

Still any team that has Doublelift is going to win a certain % of their games just from the fact he is so damn good
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 05 2013 06:03 GMT
#5816
On January 05 2013 14:48 OutlaW- wrote:
I've been watching CLG's streams every night for the past month. They lose lane against obviously inferior teams 50% of the time, but still end up winning because their mid and late game is just that much better. If they were playing good teams, they would lose all those games. Their level 1 is weak. Jiji sucks at roaming and pressuring the other guy (he got 0 plays off once in a veigar vs karthus lane. I cringed) In some cases Aphromoo fed. Hotshot crumbles in his 1v2 after his tower dies. Hotshot (unless he's playing nidalee) doesn't win lane. In the end their biggest problem is having no pressure from their solo lanes. If their bottom feeds, as well, they're usually doomed.
Regardless of how fed or how big an advantage he has, jiji will never exert map dominance. Ever. This is their biggest problem right now.
My thoughts aren't very clear. They are still a really good team but they are relying 100% on chauster for their early game. Against really good teams this will not be good enough.


I'm a pretty big fan of jiji.

But I feel like it's pretty much inevitable at this point that LiNk115 is gonna end up replacing him. I mean, jiji has no plans on moving into the CLG house and their S3 sub has already moved there (and happens to be an AP mid player whom everyone on CLG like and who's probably already better than every other pro NA AP mid).
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 05 2013 06:05 GMT
#5817
watching Curse play; all they do is bitch about how op'd eve is. lol
liftlift > tsm
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 05 2013 06:05 GMT
#5818
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 05 2013 06:11 GMT
#5819
On January 05 2013 15:03 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 14:48 OutlaW- wrote:
I've been watching CLG's streams every night for the past month. They lose lane against obviously inferior teams 50% of the time, but still end up winning because their mid and late game is just that much better. If they were playing good teams, they would lose all those games. Their level 1 is weak. Jiji sucks at roaming and pressuring the other guy (he got 0 plays off once in a veigar vs karthus lane. I cringed) In some cases Aphromoo fed. Hotshot crumbles in his 1v2 after his tower dies. Hotshot (unless he's playing nidalee) doesn't win lane. In the end their biggest problem is having no pressure from their solo lanes. If their bottom feeds, as well, they're usually doomed.
Regardless of how fed or how big an advantage he has, jiji will never exert map dominance. Ever. This is their biggest problem right now.
My thoughts aren't very clear. They are still a really good team but they are relying 100% on chauster for their early game. Against really good teams this will not be good enough.


I'm a pretty big fan of jiji.

But I feel like it's pretty much inevitable at this point that LiNk115 is gonna end up replacing him. I mean, jiji has no plans on moving into the CLG house and their S3 sub has already moved there (and happens to be an AP mid player whom everyone on CLG like and who's probably already better than every other pro NA AP mid).

I hear you. Jiji is my favorite player and I would go to great lengths to make him improve. It's killing me, but we have to face the facts. He doesn't know how to improve and his current play has big flaws.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 05 2013 06:15 GMT
#5820
I'm kinda torn about it. On the one hand with LiNk CLGna probably is gonna be an international threat instead of just an NA one (that is, if Aphro works out and Hotshot doesn't feed). Regardless LiNk is a huge improvement, even the jiji fanboy in me can't deny that. Kid is legit good.

But on the other hand CLG without jiji wouldn't even be the same team for me. I mean, I don't expect them to kick jiji anytime soon but I would not be surprised to see him replaced by LiNk as a starter in five-six months after a few international tournaments of jiji not changing.
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