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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:07 OutlaW- wrote: How good is your Czech? Would you be able to have a conversation with me? Yeah. My writing isn't great though, like I have trouble with I vs Y and stuff like that. Conversational Czech is good though since that's what I speak in my house. Just the more advanced words I don't know and sometimes I'll space out and forget how to say something really simple. | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:30 koreasilver wrote: You know, I just realized just how much CLG's team environment has changed. I mean, if we look back to when literally everyone was raging at each other with the exception of jiji (although it mostly was saint/hotshot), and look at how they act towards each other nowadays by constantly cracking jokes and laughing with/at each other, it's like a different world. It's been like this for a while now too - I can't even remember when it got to this point. I guess I didn't see that recently, but at MLG Dallas they were constantly raging, especially really hard after their loss to CLG EU. Hotshot started yelling at Loco and Doublelift, then Doublelift and Chauster started yelling back at Hotshot and Loco just left the booth. jiji did nothing, so I guess he's had to go through that quite a bit. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:31 plasmidghost wrote: This guy is the best. Shoutout to him for helping me.  #morehandsomethanSufficiency2k13 | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:31 HazMat wrote: Yeah. My writing isn't great though, like I have trouble with I vs Y and stuff like that. Conversational Czech is good though since that's what I speak in my house. Just the more advanced words I don't know and sometimes I'll space out and forget how to say something really simple. You should stream while commentating in czech like once a week. For the fans! :D | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
If anything it makes wriggles better at fighting jungle monsters since there won't be as many chances of overkill. Jungle will do less damage though. | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:33 plasmidghost wrote: I guess I didn't see that recently, but at MLG Dallas they were constantly raging, especially really hard after their loss to CLG EU. Hotshot started yelling at Loco and Doublelift, then Doublelift and Chauster started yelling back at Hotshot and Loco just left the booth. jiji did nothing, so I guess he's had to go through that quite a bit. You're seeing here because they're against an easy opponent and having fun trolling. Half the battles Chauster isn't even there and they're engaging and winning 4v5. Against a competitive opponent they won't be like that. Although the atmosphere is definitely better than when saint was there. Still waiting for top NA teams to practice against each other though. Watching some of their scrims it feels like they're trolling half of the time because the difference in level is just too much. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Regardless of how fed or how big an advantage he has, jiji will never exert map dominance. Ever. This is their biggest problem right now. My thoughts aren't very clear. They are still a really good team but they are relying 100% on chauster for their early game. Against really good teams this will not be good enough. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:41 Kavas wrote: You're seeing here because they're against an easy opponent and having fun trolling. Half the battles Chauster isn't even there and they're engaging and winning 4v5. Against a competitive opponent they won't be like that. Although the atmosphere is definitely better than when saint was there. Still waiting for top NA teams to practice against each other though. Watching some of their scrims it feels like they're trolling half of the time because the difference in level is just too much. Yeah, I guess so. It is nice to see them having fun. How is Link115 doing? | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:39 obesechicken13 wrote: There's a jungling change in PBE. All small jungle mobs are having their health cut in half. Personally I don't like the change. I think it will make nocturne really strong while bringing back fiddle and warwick a bit. Still doesn't fix the issue that junglers are just supports who can sometimes take damage in mid->late game. Tryn, Fiora, Kha, Jax, and Rammus also have a lot to gain. If anything it makes wriggles better at fighting jungle monsters since there won't be as many chances of overkill. Jungle will do less damage though. Why 50%? That seems way too much. At most it should be 25%, I think. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Random thought about CLG: I'd say that Chauster plays 4 out of 5 roles the best out of CLG. That's pretty... well, yeah. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:49 plasmidghost wrote: Why 50%? That seems way too much. At most it should be 25%, I think. http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15xc26/pbe_little_jungle_change/ Link. What can we do to stop it though? Better just embrace the jungle changes. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:53 Shikyo wrote: I never really understood why Saint even joined CLG; from watching HSGGs streaming in 2010 it seemed like they really hated each other. I didn't really get proved wrong either during Saint's time with the team. Actually they liked each other quite a bit. Hotshot even said that he misses Saint despite him being a terrible teammate and liar. | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
Bonus: Thanks to Sufficiency for almost helping. =p | ||
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:48 OutlaW- wrote: I've been watching CLG's streams every night for the past month. They lose lane against obviously inferior teams 50% of the time, but still end up winning because their mid and late game is just that much better. If they were playing good teams, they would lose all those games. Their level 1 is weak. Jiji sucks at roaming and pressuring the other guy (he got 0 plays off once in a veigar vs karthus lane. I cringed) In some cases Aphromoo fed. Hotshot crumbles in his 1v2 after his tower dies. Hotshot (unless he's playing nidalee) doesn't win lane. In the end their biggest problem is having no pressure from their solo lanes. If their bottom feeds, as well, they're usually doomed. Regardless of how fed or how big an advantage he has, jiji will never exert map dominance. Ever. This is their biggest problem right now. My thoughts aren't very clear. They are still a really good team but they are relying 100% on chauster for their early game. Against really good teams this will not be good enough. Agree with most of those, but the one thing CLG does well is that they create space for Doublelift to farm, and against lesser teams they don't want to lane 2v2 vs Doublelift and Hoshot for all his well documented flaws is a pretty good 1v2 laner though his decisionmaking post his tower dying is poor, as you said. I think that Jiji is probably their biggest problem. He's not aggressive, he doesn't farm well, he barely roams, in fact he has no significant strengths other than the 1 in 10 times the old jiji shows up and he wins his lane. At least Hotshot does some things well, jiji really doesn't anymore. Still any team that has Doublelift is going to win a certain % of their games just from the fact he is so damn good | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:48 OutlaW- wrote: I've been watching CLG's streams every night for the past month. They lose lane against obviously inferior teams 50% of the time, but still end up winning because their mid and late game is just that much better. If they were playing good teams, they would lose all those games. Their level 1 is weak. Jiji sucks at roaming and pressuring the other guy (he got 0 plays off once in a veigar vs karthus lane. I cringed) In some cases Aphromoo fed. Hotshot crumbles in his 1v2 after his tower dies. Hotshot (unless he's playing nidalee) doesn't win lane. In the end their biggest problem is having no pressure from their solo lanes. If their bottom feeds, as well, they're usually doomed. Regardless of how fed or how big an advantage he has, jiji will never exert map dominance. Ever. This is their biggest problem right now. My thoughts aren't very clear. They are still a really good team but they are relying 100% on chauster for their early game. Against really good teams this will not be good enough. I'm a pretty big fan of jiji. But I feel like it's pretty much inevitable at this point that LiNk115 is gonna end up replacing him. I mean, jiji has no plans on moving into the CLG house and their S3 sub has already moved there (and happens to be an AP mid player whom everyone on CLG like and who's probably already better than every other pro NA AP mid). | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On January 05 2013 15:01 Amethyst21 wrote: Agree with most of those, but the one thing CLG does well is that they create space for Doublelift to farm, and against lesser teams they don't want to lane 2v2 vs Doublelift and Hoshot for all his well documented flaws is a pretty good 1v2 laner though his decisionmaking post his tower dying is poor, as you said. I think that Jiji is probably their biggest problem. He's not aggressive, he doesn't farm well, he barely roams, in fact he has no significant strengths other than the 1 in 10 times the old jiji shows up and he wins his lane. At least Hotshot does some things well, jiji really doesn't anymore. Still any team that has Doublelift is going to win a certain % of their games just from the fact he is so damn good There are some times I almost feel bad for Doublelift. I think he would be much better with a new team, and I'm pretty sure any decent team would love to snap him up should he ever leave CLG, but I don't know his thoughts on that. On January 05 2013 14:57 cascades wrote: Bonus: Thanks to Sufficiency for almost helping. =p Damn straight. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On January 05 2013 15:03 overt wrote: I'm a pretty big fan of jiji. But I feel like it's pretty much inevitable at this point that LiNk115 is gonna end up replacing him. I mean, jiji has no plans on moving into the CLG house and their S3 sub has already moved there (and happens to be an AP mid player whom everyone on CLG like and who's probably already better than every other pro NA AP mid). I hear you. Jiji is my favorite player and I would go to great lengths to make him improve. It's killing me, but we have to face the facts. He doesn't know how to improve and his current play has big flaws. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
But on the other hand CLG without jiji wouldn't even be the same team for me. I mean, I don't expect them to kick jiji anytime soon but I would not be surprised to see him replaced by LiNk as a starter in five-six months after a few international tournaments of jiji not changing. | ||
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