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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 02 2013 03:10 GMT
#4901
Muramana also crazy good on Yorick and Urgot.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
January 02 2013 03:11 GMT
#4902
On January 02 2013 11:57 Mondeezy wrote:
Watching Wickd build Cutlass on Zed. Seems really strong midgame, but I feel like BT scales soo much better.

Edit: Looks like he built BoTRK. Hmm.


Yes, he does that every game on Zed.

He also builds SotD.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
January 02 2013 03:12 GMT
#4903
On January 02 2013 12:10 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2013 12:06 WhiteDog wrote:
On January 02 2013 12:01 Shiv. wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:54 WhiteDog wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:22 Shiv. wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:20 Alaric wrote:
Was trying to be helpful! D:
... oh, let's drop it. Off to bed, you're right.

Wasn't trying to be mean. <3

On another note: what's your favourite change of S3, now that stuff settled in? I think I will have to go with Muramana. It's the single greatest thing that ever happened to Ryze.

Muramana is cheesy from my point a view. A niche item for niche heroes and niche situations (late game ryze, syndra's ult...). The only thing I like in S3 is the itemisation for the jungler, aside from the fact that you have to start machete first. The spirit of the ancient golem for exemple gives a lot of variety in boots. My feeling toward the flask are weird, I like it and I hate it at the same time.
Bruiser itemisation is good too, but too good in comparaison to aps so I kinda don't like it.

Please explain how it's cheesy. Also, please define ''niche heroes'' and ''niche situations''.
I have been using it as my go-to item after Glacial/Tear/whichever Cata upgrade/Mercs and it's fucking beast. From minute 25 on (that's roundabout where I get it usually), you start oneshotting their squishies, and all you delay is defenses. I'd REALLY like to know how you get the idea it's not a solid, legitimate item on Ryze.
On January 02 2013 11:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:50 Shiv. wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:46 wei2coolman wrote:

there's a reason why people think he's the best mid NA.

Because he's able to call shots so well in soloQ while he's jungling?
I was specifically talking about his ability to communicate with a team he hasn't been a part of for longer than a week. I don't know how many people in here have tried leading a team of 5 or more people, but from my 5s experiences in WoW, that's one hell of a task to accomplish, especially without much prior experience and/or synergy with the team.

you don't think theres skill crossover between positions?

the reason chausters jungle is deadly, is the same reason his support is god-tier.

No, I think what you said had absolutely zero to do with what I said about Link. Everyone knows the kid can play the game, why would I state something that obvious.

I'm saying cheesy because i only see it used by Ryze and maybe Syndra. It is a solid items for Ryze, I'm not saying it is not, the dmg you get from it is outstanding. But it's just useful for Ryze and Ryze alone and that I don't like.

Mhm, okay. I've seen it on Yorick, Ryze and Urgot mainly, and it seemed to work really really well on either of those. I think if you give people more time, they'll find out about more of these specific item/champ combinations and hopefully use them properly.

Yes maybe it is viable on other heroes. To tell you truth, I rarelly ever see any Urgot anymore.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
January 02 2013 03:14 GMT
#4904
Guys guys I found Regi on LolKing

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/17772

It's an "I" instead of an "el" in the name of his main account.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 02 2013 03:14 GMT
#4905
SotD is really good in theory but you can easily get CCd in the 2 seconds it takes to autoattack 4 times. Often you just R q e 1 auto then get out because you'd otherwise die (this is enough to execute their ad carry if you're fed and have a big level advantage). Having to stay for 2-3 more autoattacks is very risky. But I guess if he can make it work it's worth.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 02 2013 03:20 GMT
#4906
On January 02 2013 12:14 Praetorial wrote:
Guys guys I found Regi on LolKing

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/17772

It's an "I" instead of an "el" in the name of his main account.

....
I could have told you that...
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 02 2013 03:32 GMT
#4907
On January 02 2013 12:12 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2013 12:10 Shiv. wrote:
On January 02 2013 12:06 WhiteDog wrote:
On January 02 2013 12:01 Shiv. wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:54 WhiteDog wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:22 Shiv. wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:20 Alaric wrote:
Was trying to be helpful! D:
... oh, let's drop it. Off to bed, you're right.

Wasn't trying to be mean. <3

On another note: what's your favourite change of S3, now that stuff settled in? I think I will have to go with Muramana. It's the single greatest thing that ever happened to Ryze.

Muramana is cheesy from my point a view. A niche item for niche heroes and niche situations (late game ryze, syndra's ult...). The only thing I like in S3 is the itemisation for the jungler, aside from the fact that you have to start machete first. The spirit of the ancient golem for exemple gives a lot of variety in boots. My feeling toward the flask are weird, I like it and I hate it at the same time.
Bruiser itemisation is good too, but too good in comparaison to aps so I kinda don't like it.

Please explain how it's cheesy. Also, please define ''niche heroes'' and ''niche situations''.
I have been using it as my go-to item after Glacial/Tear/whichever Cata upgrade/Mercs and it's fucking beast. From minute 25 on (that's roundabout where I get it usually), you start oneshotting their squishies, and all you delay is defenses. I'd REALLY like to know how you get the idea it's not a solid, legitimate item on Ryze.
On January 02 2013 11:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:50 Shiv. wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:46 wei2coolman wrote:

there's a reason why people think he's the best mid NA.

Because he's able to call shots so well in soloQ while he's jungling?
I was specifically talking about his ability to communicate with a team he hasn't been a part of for longer than a week. I don't know how many people in here have tried leading a team of 5 or more people, but from my 5s experiences in WoW, that's one hell of a task to accomplish, especially without much prior experience and/or synergy with the team.

you don't think theres skill crossover between positions?

the reason chausters jungle is deadly, is the same reason his support is god-tier.

No, I think what you said had absolutely zero to do with what I said about Link. Everyone knows the kid can play the game, why would I state something that obvious.

I'm saying cheesy because i only see it used by Ryze and maybe Syndra. It is a solid items for Ryze, I'm not saying it is not, the dmg you get from it is outstanding. But it's just useful for Ryze and Ryze alone and that I don't like.

Mhm, okay. I've seen it on Yorick, Ryze and Urgot mainly, and it seemed to work really really well on either of those. I think if you give people more time, they'll find out about more of these specific item/champ combinations and hopefully use them properly.

Yes maybe it is viable on other heroes. To tell you truth, I rarelly ever see any Urgot anymore.

Muramana is core on Jayce now

On January 02 2013 12:14 Praetorial wrote:
Guys guys I found Regi on LolKing

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/17772

It's an "I" instead of an "el" in the name of his main account.

both reginaid and reginald are his accounts
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
January 02 2013 03:34 GMT
#4908
On January 02 2013 12:11 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2013 11:57 Mondeezy wrote:
Watching Wickd build Cutlass on Zed. Seems really strong midgame, but I feel like BT scales soo much better.

Edit: Looks like he built BoTRK. Hmm.


Yes, he does that every game on Zed.

He also builds SotD.


Ah, never watched his stream until today. Own3d and I don't work so well, haha. I usually go Brut->BT->BC->GA on him, but this burst build seems pretty good if you can manage to stay on the target for 2-3 secs.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 02 2013 04:08 GMT
#4909
On January 02 2013 12:12 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2013 12:10 Shiv. wrote:
On January 02 2013 12:06 WhiteDog wrote:
On January 02 2013 12:01 Shiv. wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:54 WhiteDog wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:22 Shiv. wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:20 Alaric wrote:
Was trying to be helpful! D:
... oh, let's drop it. Off to bed, you're right.

Wasn't trying to be mean. <3

On another note: what's your favourite change of S3, now that stuff settled in? I think I will have to go with Muramana. It's the single greatest thing that ever happened to Ryze.

Muramana is cheesy from my point a view. A niche item for niche heroes and niche situations (late game ryze, syndra's ult...). The only thing I like in S3 is the itemisation for the jungler, aside from the fact that you have to start machete first. The spirit of the ancient golem for exemple gives a lot of variety in boots. My feeling toward the flask are weird, I like it and I hate it at the same time.
Bruiser itemisation is good too, but too good in comparaison to aps so I kinda don't like it.

Please explain how it's cheesy. Also, please define ''niche heroes'' and ''niche situations''.
I have been using it as my go-to item after Glacial/Tear/whichever Cata upgrade/Mercs and it's fucking beast. From minute 25 on (that's roundabout where I get it usually), you start oneshotting their squishies, and all you delay is defenses. I'd REALLY like to know how you get the idea it's not a solid, legitimate item on Ryze.
On January 02 2013 11:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:50 Shiv. wrote:
On January 02 2013 11:46 wei2coolman wrote:

there's a reason why people think he's the best mid NA.

Because he's able to call shots so well in soloQ while he's jungling?
I was specifically talking about his ability to communicate with a team he hasn't been a part of for longer than a week. I don't know how many people in here have tried leading a team of 5 or more people, but from my 5s experiences in WoW, that's one hell of a task to accomplish, especially without much prior experience and/or synergy with the team.

you don't think theres skill crossover between positions?

the reason chausters jungle is deadly, is the same reason his support is god-tier.

No, I think what you said had absolutely zero to do with what I said about Link. Everyone knows the kid can play the game, why would I state something that obvious.

I'm saying cheesy because i only see it used by Ryze and maybe Syndra. It is a solid items for Ryze, I'm not saying it is not, the dmg you get from it is outstanding. But it's just useful for Ryze and Ryze alone and that I don't like.

Mhm, okay. I've seen it on Yorick, Ryze and Urgot mainly, and it seemed to work really really well on either of those. I think if you give people more time, they'll find out about more of these specific item/champ combinations and hopefully use them properly.

Yes maybe it is viable on other heroes. To tell you truth, I rarelly ever see any Urgot anymore.

It should be pretty good on Yorick considering you usually build him tanky anyway(FH and shit like that) an extra like 150-200 damage on his E/Q cant be bad
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 02 2013 04:44 GMT
#4910
my favorite s3 change is how they redid penetration mechanics (giggity) to make Elise even more powerful
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 05:01:04
January 02 2013 04:55 GMT
#4911
Random question: Do tournaments at the moment require teams to ban champions? What I mean is, I know there's the banning stage still... but can a team decide to only use 1 or 2 of its bans, instead of all 3?

edit: I ask because it seems like there could be some weird choices for the 2nd team to not use their bans in particular order to try and leave 3 OP champs available. This would allow the FP team to get the 1, but then follow it up with 2 of their own. Granted, in most cases in tournament play people are banning out specific players more than a champion, but it still made me think.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
January 02 2013 04:56 GMT
#4912
Yes you can just time out the ban.
Lokrium
Profile Joined March 2011
United States131 Posts
January 02 2013 05:08 GMT
#4913
Even if you couldn't, there will always be at least 6 useless champions to ban. Right now a nothing ban would be like, karma or urgot or something.
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
January 02 2013 05:15 GMT
#4914
Oh joy it's free Anivia week again, time to watch people lay hideous walls and otherwise make my favorite champ look really bad.

Also, found my Shyvana jungle skills again. I have such a love hate relationship with jungling.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
January 02 2013 05:24 GMT
#4915
On January 02 2013 12:14 Praetorial wrote:
Guys guys I found Regi on LolKing

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/17772

It's an "I" instead of an "el" in the name of his main account.


Phreak called him "Regi-naid" to troll him while shoutcasting during some tournament, might have been the season 1 championships. He also has the Reginald account but he's been on Reginaid for as long as I've been playing
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 02 2013 06:54 GMT
#4916
Duo queue bot lanes usually end up feeding.
Discuss
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 02 2013 06:58 GMT
#4917
I feel like that's because a lot of duos feel compelled to lane together, so they go to bot. But they do this not because they both particularly like and are skilled at ad/support, but because they want to be buddies in a lane.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
January 02 2013 06:59 GMT
#4918
Onyxia is deep breathing more.

It's all in your head I am afraid I've seen good duo bot lanes and I've seen ones that make me cringe. Sounds like you are in a rut of the later kind.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
January 02 2013 07:16 GMT
#4919
On January 02 2013 14:15 NEOtheONE wrote:
Oh joy it's free Anivia week again, time to watch people lay hideous walls and otherwise make my favorite champ look really bad.

Also, found my Shyvana jungle skills again. I have such a love hate relationship with jungling.


Anivia is not nearly as difficult as her reputation TBH. It's extremely easy to perform averagely/competently as her, compared to a lot of other champs. While top professional level Anivia might be more difficult vs. top professional opponents, anything below that is very very easy for Anivia.
TranslatorBaa!
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 07:36:31
January 02 2013 07:35 GMT
#4920
On January 02 2013 16:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2013 14:15 NEOtheONE wrote:
Oh joy it's free Anivia week again, time to watch people lay hideous walls and otherwise make my favorite champ look really bad.

Also, found my Shyvana jungle skills again. I have such a love hate relationship with jungling.


Anivia is not nearly as difficult as her reputation TBH. It's extremely easy to perform averagely/competently as her, compared to a lot of other champs. While top professional level Anivia might be more difficult vs. top professional opponents, anything below that is very very easy for Anivia.


I've seen new anivias get egged and auto attacked to death in the middle of mid lane. That's neither average nor competent. Her pre level 6 laning is brutal to players new to her as they won't know how to use wall and Q well together to set up stuns. Her Q is so slow that most enemy mids can and should dodge it unless you add in wall or catch them in the middle of their minions.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
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