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Muramana also crazy good on Yorick and Urgot.
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On January 02 2013 11:57 Mondeezy wrote:
Watching Wickd build Cutlass on Zed. Seems really strong midgame, but I feel like BT scales soo much better.
Edit: Looks like he built BoTRK. Hmm.
Yes, he does that every game on Zed.
He also builds SotD.
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On January 02 2013 12:10 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2013 12:06 WhiteDog wrote:On January 02 2013 12:01 Shiv. wrote:On January 02 2013 11:54 WhiteDog wrote:On January 02 2013 11:22 Shiv. wrote:On January 02 2013 11:20 Alaric wrote:
Was trying to be helpful! D:
... oh, let's drop it. Off to bed, you're right. Wasn't trying to be mean. <3 On another note: what's your favourite change of S3, now that stuff settled in? I think I will have to go with Muramana. It's the single greatest thing that ever happened to Ryze. Muramana is cheesy from my point a view. A niche item for niche heroes and niche situations (late game ryze, syndra's ult...). The only thing I like in S3 is the itemisation for the jungler, aside from the fact that you have to start machete first. The spirit of the ancient golem for exemple gives a lot of variety in boots. My feeling toward the flask are weird, I like it and I hate it at the same time. Bruiser itemisation is good too, but too good in comparaison to aps so I kinda don't like it. Please explain how it's cheesy. Also, please define ''niche heroes'' and ''niche situations''. I have been using it as my go-to item after Glacial/Tear/whichever Cata upgrade/Mercs and it's fucking beast. From minute 25 on (that's roundabout where I get it usually), you start oneshotting their squishies, and all you delay is defenses. I'd REALLY like to know how you get the idea it's not a solid, legitimate item on Ryze. On January 02 2013 11:57 wei2coolman wrote:On January 02 2013 11:50 Shiv. wrote:On January 02 2013 11:46 wei2coolman wrote:
there's a reason why people think he's the best mid NA. Because he's able to call shots so well in soloQ while he's jungling? I was specifically talking about his ability to communicate with a team he hasn't been a part of for longer than a week. I don't know how many people in here have tried leading a team of 5 or more people, but from my 5s experiences in WoW, that's one hell of a task to accomplish, especially without much prior experience and/or synergy with the team. you don't think theres skill crossover between positions? the reason chausters jungle is deadly, is the same reason his support is god-tier. No, I think what you said had absolutely zero to do with what I said about Link. Everyone knows the kid can play the game, why would I state something that obvious. I'm saying cheesy because i only see it used by Ryze and maybe Syndra. It is a solid items for Ryze, I'm not saying it is not, the dmg you get from it is outstanding. But it's just useful for Ryze and Ryze alone and that I don't like. Mhm, okay. I've seen it on Yorick, Ryze and Urgot mainly, and it seemed to work really really well on either of those. I think if you give people more time, they'll find out about more of these specific item/champ combinations and hopefully use them properly.
Yes maybe it is viable on other heroes. To tell you truth, I rarelly ever see any Urgot anymore.
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SotD is really good in theory but you can easily get CCd in the 2 seconds it takes to autoattack 4 times. Often you just R q e 1 auto then get out because you'd otherwise die (this is enough to execute their ad carry if you're fed and have a big level advantage). Having to stay for 2-3 more autoattacks is very risky. But I guess if he can make it work it's worth.
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I could have told you that...
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On January 02 2013 12:12 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2013 12:10 Shiv. wrote:On January 02 2013 12:06 WhiteDog wrote:On January 02 2013 12:01 Shiv. wrote:On January 02 2013 11:54 WhiteDog wrote:On January 02 2013 11:22 Shiv. wrote:On January 02 2013 11:20 Alaric wrote:
Was trying to be helpful! D:
... oh, let's drop it. Off to bed, you're right. Wasn't trying to be mean. <3 On another note: what's your favourite change of S3, now that stuff settled in? I think I will have to go with Muramana. It's the single greatest thing that ever happened to Ryze. Muramana is cheesy from my point a view. A niche item for niche heroes and niche situations (late game ryze, syndra's ult...). The only thing I like in S3 is the itemisation for the jungler, aside from the fact that you have to start machete first. The spirit of the ancient golem for exemple gives a lot of variety in boots. My feeling toward the flask are weird, I like it and I hate it at the same time. Bruiser itemisation is good too, but too good in comparaison to aps so I kinda don't like it. Please explain how it's cheesy. Also, please define ''niche heroes'' and ''niche situations''. I have been using it as my go-to item after Glacial/Tear/whichever Cata upgrade/Mercs and it's fucking beast. From minute 25 on (that's roundabout where I get it usually), you start oneshotting their squishies, and all you delay is defenses. I'd REALLY like to know how you get the idea it's not a solid, legitimate item on Ryze. On January 02 2013 11:57 wei2coolman wrote:On January 02 2013 11:50 Shiv. wrote:On January 02 2013 11:46 wei2coolman wrote:
there's a reason why people think he's the best mid NA. Because he's able to call shots so well in soloQ while he's jungling? I was specifically talking about his ability to communicate with a team he hasn't been a part of for longer than a week. I don't know how many people in here have tried leading a team of 5 or more people, but from my 5s experiences in WoW, that's one hell of a task to accomplish, especially without much prior experience and/or synergy with the team. you don't think theres skill crossover between positions? the reason chausters jungle is deadly, is the same reason his support is god-tier. No, I think what you said had absolutely zero to do with what I said about Link. Everyone knows the kid can play the game, why would I state something that obvious. I'm saying cheesy because i only see it used by Ryze and maybe Syndra. It is a solid items for Ryze, I'm not saying it is not, the dmg you get from it is outstanding. But it's just useful for Ryze and Ryze alone and that I don't like. Mhm, okay. I've seen it on Yorick, Ryze and Urgot mainly, and it seemed to work really really well on either of those. I think if you give people more time, they'll find out about more of these specific item/champ combinations and hopefully use them properly. Yes maybe it is viable on other heroes. To tell you truth, I rarelly ever see any Urgot anymore.
Muramana is core on Jayce now
both reginaid and reginald are his accounts
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On January 02 2013 12:11 Praetorial wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2013 11:57 Mondeezy wrote:
Watching Wickd build Cutlass on Zed. Seems really strong midgame, but I feel like BT scales soo much better.
Edit: Looks like he built BoTRK. Hmm. Yes, he does that every game on Zed. He also builds SotD.
Ah, never watched his stream until today. Own3d and I don't work so well, haha. I usually go Brut->BT->BC->GA on him, but this burst build seems pretty good if you can manage to stay on the target for 2-3 secs.
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On January 02 2013 12:12 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2013 12:10 Shiv. wrote:On January 02 2013 12:06 WhiteDog wrote:On January 02 2013 12:01 Shiv. wrote:On January 02 2013 11:54 WhiteDog wrote:On January 02 2013 11:22 Shiv. wrote:On January 02 2013 11:20 Alaric wrote:
Was trying to be helpful! D:
... oh, let's drop it. Off to bed, you're right. Wasn't trying to be mean. <3 On another note: what's your favourite change of S3, now that stuff settled in? I think I will have to go with Muramana. It's the single greatest thing that ever happened to Ryze. Muramana is cheesy from my point a view. A niche item for niche heroes and niche situations (late game ryze, syndra's ult...). The only thing I like in S3 is the itemisation for the jungler, aside from the fact that you have to start machete first. The spirit of the ancient golem for exemple gives a lot of variety in boots. My feeling toward the flask are weird, I like it and I hate it at the same time. Bruiser itemisation is good too, but too good in comparaison to aps so I kinda don't like it. Please explain how it's cheesy. Also, please define ''niche heroes'' and ''niche situations''. I have been using it as my go-to item after Glacial/Tear/whichever Cata upgrade/Mercs and it's fucking beast. From minute 25 on (that's roundabout where I get it usually), you start oneshotting their squishies, and all you delay is defenses. I'd REALLY like to know how you get the idea it's not a solid, legitimate item on Ryze. On January 02 2013 11:57 wei2coolman wrote:On January 02 2013 11:50 Shiv. wrote:On January 02 2013 11:46 wei2coolman wrote:
there's a reason why people think he's the best mid NA. Because he's able to call shots so well in soloQ while he's jungling? I was specifically talking about his ability to communicate with a team he hasn't been a part of for longer than a week. I don't know how many people in here have tried leading a team of 5 or more people, but from my 5s experiences in WoW, that's one hell of a task to accomplish, especially without much prior experience and/or synergy with the team. you don't think theres skill crossover between positions? the reason chausters jungle is deadly, is the same reason his support is god-tier. No, I think what you said had absolutely zero to do with what I said about Link. Everyone knows the kid can play the game, why would I state something that obvious. I'm saying cheesy because i only see it used by Ryze and maybe Syndra. It is a solid items for Ryze, I'm not saying it is not, the dmg you get from it is outstanding. But it's just useful for Ryze and Ryze alone and that I don't like. Mhm, okay. I've seen it on Yorick, Ryze and Urgot mainly, and it seemed to work really really well on either of those. I think if you give people more time, they'll find out about more of these specific item/champ combinations and hopefully use them properly. Yes maybe it is viable on other heroes. To tell you truth, I rarelly ever see any Urgot anymore.
It should be pretty good on Yorick considering you usually build him tanky anyway(FH and shit like that) an extra like 150-200 damage on his E/Q cant be bad
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my favorite s3 change is how they redid penetration mechanics (giggity) to make Elise even more powerful
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Random question: Do tournaments at the moment require teams to ban champions? What I mean is, I know there's the banning stage still... but can a team decide to only use 1 or 2 of its bans, instead of all 3?
edit: I ask because it seems like there could be some weird choices for the 2nd team to not use their bans in particular order to try and leave 3 OP champs available. This would allow the FP team to get the 1, but then follow it up with 2 of their own. Granted, in most cases in tournament play people are banning out specific players more than a champion, but it still made me think.
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Yes you can just time out the ban.
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Even if you couldn't, there will always be at least 6 useless champions to ban. Right now a nothing ban would be like, karma or urgot or something.
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Oh joy it's free Anivia week again, time to watch people lay hideous walls and otherwise make my favorite champ look really bad.
Also, found my Shyvana jungle skills again. I have such a love hate relationship with jungling.
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Phreak called him "Regi-naid" to troll him while shoutcasting during some tournament, might have been the season 1 championships. He also has the Reginald account but he's been on Reginaid for as long as I've been playing
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Duo queue bot lanes usually end up feeding.
Discuss
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I feel like that's because a lot of duos feel compelled to lane together, so they go to bot. But they do this not because they both particularly like and are skilled at ad/support, but because they want to be buddies in a lane.
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Onyxia is deep breathing more.
It's all in your head I am afraid I've seen good duo bot lanes and I've seen ones that make me cringe. Sounds like you are in a rut of the later kind.
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On January 02 2013 14:15 NEOtheONE wrote:
Oh joy it's free Anivia week again, time to watch people lay hideous walls and otherwise make my favorite champ look really bad.
Also, found my Shyvana jungle skills again. I have such a love hate relationship with jungling.
Anivia is not nearly as difficult as her reputation TBH. It's extremely easy to perform averagely/competently as her, compared to a lot of other champs. While top professional level Anivia might be more difficult vs. top professional opponents, anything below that is very very easy for Anivia.
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On January 02 2013 16:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2013 14:15 NEOtheONE wrote:
Oh joy it's free Anivia week again, time to watch people lay hideous walls and otherwise make my favorite champ look really bad.
Also, found my Shyvana jungle skills again. I have such a love hate relationship with jungling. Anivia is not nearly as difficult as her reputation TBH. It's extremely easy to perform averagely/competently as her, compared to a lot of other champs. While top professional level Anivia might be more difficult vs. top professional opponents, anything below that is very very easy for Anivia.
I've seen new anivias get egged and auto attacked to death in the middle of mid lane. That's neither average nor competent. Her pre level 6 laning is brutal to players new to her as they won't know how to use wall and Q well together to set up stuns. Her Q is so slow that most enemy mids can and should dodge it unless you add in wall or catch them in the middle of their minions.
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