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little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
December 13 2012 16:25 GMT
#21
Get your friends hooked on the game. I refused to play for whatever reason, I can't really remember anymore, but my friends kept on harassing me ("big game, so huge and fun come play with us gogogogogo l0l0l0l") until I joined them. We were 2 or 3 people and then found a lot more players out there. Now we're a consistent group of 6-10 people and almost always there is someone online for a game. You don't need a full premade to enjoy the game, just 1 or 2 people you really love playing with.

I can remember my times below level 30 and it took me quite a while, too, but I think it's good because the game is pretty deep if you never played a MOBA game before.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
December 13 2012 16:38 GMT
#22
As a side-note don't play support pre-30. Support exists under the assumption that the AD takes all the farm. If the AD is only capable of farming about 1/3 of the lane then you can last hit happily without messing things up too much.

Which in turn means the AD shouldn't be bot and should get a solo lane.

But no-one peels anyway so AD's are far weaker than normal and bruisers are king.

Which means metagame is totally irrelevent.
Just pick what you like playing, buy some wards (assuming they have a jungler) and go kill shit. I know it's bad solo-queue mentality of kills mean everything but they really do when everyone is terrible. Easy kills are worth more gold than farm/objectives.

PS: If 2 AD's are demanding bot, or you end up with like trio mid or something then just let them. I kid you not you are more likely to win with these trolls than otherwise. Imagine an enemy AP mid walks to lane and finds he's up against 3 people. He doesn't want to get zoned because thats boring so he dies repeatedly. Team doesn't want to help because they're all filling their roles fine. Blame gets thrown around and opposing team rages out.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
December 13 2012 16:38 GMT
#23
As people said, play with friends. I'm lvl 24 now, it's really taking a long time to level up, but if you play with friends and have fun you won't care that much. The downside is that if your friend is already 30, you'll get matched with lvl 30 too, and it'll be hard for you as you won't have masteries/runes.
If you solo queue, you should have able to roflstomp everybody if you have some practice and play mid or jungle, I'm a rather bad dota player, but when I started playing LoL I was able to single handedly win most of my solo games before lvl 15 (and I'll emphasize that I'm really bad).
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
December 13 2012 16:44 GMT
#24
How I got to level 30 was playing with friends. Just play to have fun, when I was getting to level 30 I didn't know what champs should go where. I ended up playing shen garen bot lanes, hiding in bushes with taunt at level 1. It's really fun getting 5 people and just doing stupid stuff like ultimate bravery, all mid pushes or random jungles. I think at this point I'm better at AP Taric jungle than a lot of standard junglers.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
December 13 2012 16:45 GMT
#25
On December 14 2012 01:15 DwarfTherapist wrote:
I didn't find it so bad.
When i go into an f2p game, i compare it to buying a cheap pc game £20/$30.

I bought a week long exp boost and several of the per game boosts.
Just played like mad with one other friend (we used to play sc2 1v1 and dota2 a lot) so we we're both far and away the better players in every match.

I can't remember the exact numbers but i think i was getting 500ish exp per game.

When i had nobody to play with i'd grind out solo bot (1v1) games just perfecting my last hit and winning at 11 minute mark for fast exp. 6 of those per hour roughly, pulling in 200+ exp per game.

By the time we hit level 30 we only had about 60 normal wins (60:35 iirc) and quite a lot of the 11 minute drills (also useful for perfecting jungle runs).

I gotta say, playing ranked was fucking awful. The skill level was SO much lower. In our first game (i play support) my AD friend went 20/0 and i was on something like 2/0/20 playing soraka.

turns out the only way we can enjoy the game is playing normals, we get consistently close and challenging games. We tried to stick with ranked, but even at 1600 elo everyone is still so much worse than in the normals.


tl;dr it starts bad and only gets worse.


Your either exaggerating about your relative skill in ranked or you haven't played enough games to reach your true elo so your normal elo is much higher.
Never Knows Best.
Fortissimo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada145 Posts
December 13 2012 16:46 GMT
#26
I had a weird lv 1-25 experience apprently cause all I did was play Co-OP vs AI from 1-25 and just work on my csing in solo lane with whatever champs I had and then when I got to playign Normals at 25 I was surprised at how bad people were at last hitting and just carried games quickly to lv30 on cs alone.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 13 2012 16:51 GMT
#27
On December 14 2012 01:45 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 01:15 DwarfTherapist wrote:
I didn't find it so bad.
When i go into an f2p game, i compare it to buying a cheap pc game £20/$30.

I bought a week long exp boost and several of the per game boosts.
Just played like mad with one other friend (we used to play sc2 1v1 and dota2 a lot) so we we're both far and away the better players in every match.

I can't remember the exact numbers but i think i was getting 500ish exp per game.

When i had nobody to play with i'd grind out solo bot (1v1) games just perfecting my last hit and winning at 11 minute mark for fast exp. 6 of those per hour roughly, pulling in 200+ exp per game.

By the time we hit level 30 we only had about 60 normal wins (60:35 iirc) and quite a lot of the 11 minute drills (also useful for perfecting jungle runs).

I gotta say, playing ranked was fucking awful. The skill level was SO much lower. In our first game (i play support) my AD friend went 20/0 and i was on something like 2/0/20 playing soraka.

turns out the only way we can enjoy the game is playing normals, we get consistently close and challenging games. We tried to stick with ranked, but even at 1600 elo everyone is still so much worse than in the normals.


tl;dr it starts bad and only gets worse.


Your either exaggerating about your relative skill in ranked or you haven't played enough games to reach your true elo so your normal elo is much higher.

My normal Elo is also higher than the ranked one.
I can tell because the people play so much better in normals.
So I just don't play ranked nowadays. The shiny Elo number is meaningless to me, and it's way easier on playing with friends, because they give themselves less pressure or something like that. More fun.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
DwarfTherapist
Profile Joined November 2012
United States48 Posts
December 13 2012 16:56 GMT
#28
On December 14 2012 01:45 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 01:15 DwarfTherapist wrote:

tl;dr it starts bad and only gets worse.


Your either exaggerating about your relative skill in ranked or you haven't played enough games to reach your true elo so your normal elo is much higher.


He averages 10cs/min every game, 190ish by 20 mins.
I'm good with bltiz/taric/naughtysupporty and i don't mind playing shit like soraka/sona when needed. Last season his average kd was 15:1 and 300cs/game.

You're right about not playing enough ranked to get elo up, we've had games where we literally get 30/0 and destroy our lane, yet somehow team scores are like 30-44 and you realize nobody else has done anything other than run into towers over and over. It's pretty hard to roam from bot, can only realistically help mid.

We went on a 15 win streak but it just ended up boring. The game feels like if you don't absolutely destroy the entire game, you'll lose because the other 3 invariably can't cs and can't stop dying. people say "carry harder" but.. it's not happening.


We've switched to jungle/mid to have more influence on the game and coordinate ganks, but it's just depressing. It's like running a childminding service, cleaning up everyones puke and crap.


Not the game for me any more ;p
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
December 13 2012 17:06 GMT
#29
This is literally some of the biggest bullshit I have ever read, and I've read some pretty massive bull in my time.

You guys are somehow natural progamers, but you can't even carry bads to reach your superstar elo which is supposedly way higher than 1600 where "people keep running into towers"? And that's why you play normals with people who started the game 10 days ago, who are supposedly better than ranked players? And you own these 2k elo quality players 30/0 because they are good?

El oh el. Sure man, you're not married to Adriana Lima because you've had too much pussy and now it's all boring. And you're not an UFC champ because you beat up 7 adults when you were in grade school and now you're banned from cage fighting for life.

Let me tell you a secret. You can't play and you can't stand getting owned, and that's why you're stomping beginners in normal games while everyone else is making their way up the very accurate elo system. Your rationalizations are ridiculous and borderline insane, but in this game, I guess that makes you fit right in with the crowd. Comedy
kyriores
Profile Joined February 2011
Greece178 Posts
December 13 2012 17:26 GMT
#30
Yeah, don't expect to play a standard game in unranked. Everybody will just pick random stuff because they want to test different builds or champions. But hey, this is what you should be doing too. Test champs in order to get better at them and also improve your play (csing, map awareness, decision making, etc.). It is a competitive game, so just the feeling of getting better at it should give you joy.
Very casual, Diamond Terran.
MrF
Profile Joined October 2011
United States320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 17:37:26
December 13 2012 17:29 GMT
#31
OK here's what you need to do find some friends who play Lol or make your current friends play, its not hard everyone is or has been in your position so most people are looking for people to play with too, first of all its much easier to win if you are actually talking to your team, not typing, second its just more fun that way. Simberto above me put it better "Don't play alone"
GLHF its a great game once you get some people to play with, also ARAM.

EDIT
This is literally some of the biggest bullshit I have ever read, and I've read some pretty massive bull in my time.

You guys are somehow natural progamers, but you can't even carry bads to reach your superstar elo which is supposedly way higher than 1600 where "people keep running into towers"? And that's why you play normals with people who started the game 10 days ago, who are supposedly better than ranked players? And you own these 2k elo quality players 30/0 because they are good?

SO true
HunterXHunter is awesome
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
December 13 2012 17:36 GMT
#32
it just gets worse. way worse.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
December 13 2012 17:40 GMT
#33
On December 14 2012 02:29 MrF wrote:
OK here's what you need to do find some friends who play Lol or make your current friends play, its not hard everyone is or has been in your position so most people are looking for people to play with too, first of all its much easier to win if you are actually talking to your team, not typing, second its just more fun that way. Simberto above me put it better "Don't play alone"
GLHF its a great game once you get some people to play with, also ARAM.

EDIT
Show nested quote +
This is literally some of the biggest bullshit I have ever read, and I've read some pretty massive bull in my time.

You guys are somehow natural progamers, but you can't even carry bads to reach your superstar elo which is supposedly way higher than 1600 where "people keep running into towers"? And that's why you play normals with people who started the game 10 days ago, who are supposedly better than ranked players? And you own these 2k elo quality players 30/0 because they are good?

SO true


Same thing in SC2. People always say "I'm am in silver, but my true level is diamond" or shit like that and blame the fact that they don't play ladder. Same thing with the idiots who think they are going to become progamers if they quit school, as if that's the only thing holding them back.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 13 2012 17:42 GMT
#34
Uh yea getting to like lvls 20-24 is a piece of cake.24 to 30 solo is hell.
Cackle™
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
December 13 2012 17:44 GMT
#35
As you've already come to realize and others have pointed out, your downfall was playing supports, which doesn't work out well when you are forced to support bad teammates. Once you hit level 30 though support can be very rewarding to play as you'll get teammates who actually appreciate and understand all you are doing to support them.

I leveled up to 30 doing solo q (aside from playing duo with my gf, in which we win about 50% of games tops), I felt overall it was a good learning experience - and I had a good deal of fun as well, maybe it's because I'm a relatively patient person...

I actually have yet to try ranked games, I feel I'm not quite good enough yet (I think my game sense is very good, but my last hitting is still sub-par) but based on what you said maybe I should give it a try. Even going from normal blind pick games to normal draft games the level of play seems quite a bit higher, I figured ranked would be even tougher, not to mention a lot more anger and stress being thrown around between teammates. I'm guess still having too much fun with the game itself (learning/unlocking new heros) and improving to care about rank... remember in the end it is just a GAME, play it in which ever way gives you the most pleasure!
denton
Profile Joined November 2012
10 Posts
December 13 2012 17:45 GMT
#36
Funny thing about league of legends.

Go ahead and quit.

You will be back. You do not know why. But you will be. And you will enjoy it again.

Ranked is still a sesspool. For normals the trick is to play with at least one other person IF you want to win more consistently. Or ideally play with 3-5 people for more team oriented games (opposition will be teams as well).

I was 1900 S2 and the games are much better than low ELO but it is tough to get there. Currently I am trolling at ~1200 elo (by trolling I mean going 25-2 with akali) and the attitude of people is disgusting. It is amazing to see how upset people are at this elo!

Long story short, friend people you enjoyed playing with

This is KEY. I have so many friends from league that I met through this game. They are all on my skype list and I know them all really well. I play other games with them all the time and we are just great internet friends. Without them I would have quit sure. But that goes for every game.
denton
Profile Joined November 2012
10 Posts
December 13 2012 17:50 GMT
#37
Also I have to say. DO NOT MAIN SUPPORT.

You will be a crippled player if you do this. Play at least 2 roles. One of ADC/Top/Mid (lane practice) and jungler (so you understand the jungle and flow of the game, map control concepts).
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
December 13 2012 17:57 GMT
#38
Seriously dude, do yourself a favor and get like 3-4 champs for every role (the cheap ones are fine) and try Normal draft. It's soooo much better than blind pick where people just instalock.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 13 2012 18:05 GMT
#39
On December 14 2012 02:57 Argoth. wrote:
Seriously dude, do yourself a favor and get like 3-4 champs for every role (the cheap ones are fine) and try Normal draft. It's soooo much better than blind pick where people just instalock.

^ yes this. Some people flame you if you don't have runes or aren't level 30 though...
La1
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom659 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 18:06:33
December 13 2012 18:05 GMT
#40
I see so many people moan about ranked and how the skill level is lower.. fact is it is not.. if your good enough, you will rise and rise quickly.. i accept i am about a 1500 player and thats about where i currently sit (i used to be 1800 but i stoped playing for months and now i am rusty as), I crush the people at 13-1400 however sometimes i will lose the odd game as somebody on another team will crush harder than me.

I find normal to be a complete waste of time, I am currently learning shaco / skarner for my jungle and i notice normals are just awful, people dont ward, people play stupid charas as they dont want to support, I had signed GP bot a few days ago but i don't care as it's only normals and it doesnt matter if you lose. The only reason normal is "nicer" is because people have nothing to lose if they do lose, were as in ranked they lose that hard earned elo so they get pissed off when you feed.

Also this pre-season i was 2-6 down to 1100ish elo, I am now 1480ish? i won 14 straight to be like 18-6 as i just rolled the lower level players.

My advice is to pick aggressive champs or champs which are global. Shen, TF, Karth (Globals)
Ahri, Cassi, Ori, Kat (Aggressive)

If you kill your enemy enough then you snowball and you win as long as you can cs well also
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