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How to make it fun, leveling to 30?

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McDutch
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands184 Posts
December 13 2012 13:31 GMT
#1
hello everyone,

I started play LoL a month ago, just to try it out. Atm, im just solo queuing normal games on my own, since all my friends only play CoD and FiFa on the ps3.. But how on earth did you guys reach level 30 without quiting?

im trying to play as much games a day i can. about 5 to 10, depends on the length of the games, but right now, i'm at the point, that i never want to touch the game again. If i play a game, i wanna be as good as possible, but also play on the ladder. I bought a XP boost, and still it's taking so long to level 30.

But that's not my main point. The problem im facing right now, are the people im getting grouped with. Im not saying im a good player at all, im just level 12. But im allways trying to pick something what the group needs.. so mostly im stuck playing support, but i also play mid and top quite often, but i also only pick champions im known with. Everytime when i'm thinking of buying a new champion or something, i learn everything about them to read of forums etc. But it seems no-one gives a f*ck what you pick, or what other pick.. for instance, i just had a game, 2 people instant lock-in on mid champs, both QQing that they are mid, and the other 2 pick AD, and both wanna play bot, but not with eachother.. At that point, i feel we lost the game already.. I don't even want to play with these people anymore, trying to be nice, and get the best out of it..

Then when i'm finally in-game, the true pain starts.. no-one listens to eachother, everyone playing their own single player game. Almost no teamwork.. It annoys me so much, that i wonder how people even reached level 30, bofore uninstalling the game, and never touch it again..

Right now, im just at the point of never playing this again.. Not because the game itself isn't fun, but just the people playing it. People told me, it will be better when you hit level 30, and play ranked. But how to deal with this shit for so long then?

So please dear TL lol players, how did you keep urself playing this game, with these people. How to make it fun..

please help me, i really wanna own the Ladders up

thx in advance ^^



PS

Not all of my games are going like this, but i would say about 70% of them.. Played 4 games today so far, and all lost in the first 20min, due to people not wanna play as a team, arguing about stupid shit, not listening to eachother, and retarded lock-ins
naniwa, grubby, white-ra, ret
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 13 2012 13:43 GMT
#2
If you already want to quit at level 12, then chances are you actually WANT to quit.

I manage(d) to keep playing because I enjoy the game. That should be the only important thing.
It will take a LOT more games until 30, and imo while leveling, the "worst" levels are 20-25.

I suppose you played for like, a week? Should be around there if you play 5 games/day.
Then just focus on improving yourself. Should be plenty to do. You can't improve your teammates. And if you don't enjoy playing, don't force yourself.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
December 13 2012 13:46 GMT
#3
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linkknil3
Profile Joined November 2012
United States7 Posts
December 13 2012 13:49 GMT
#4
That's about how most games go early on- the best way (I think) to get through it is to just play a lot and play whoever you feel like, even if it doesn't match the meta, until you notice other people not doing the same. It'll make your team composition look really stupid a lot of the time, but its a lot more fun than trying to make everyone play well at that level. Besides, the other team is just as bad as your teammates, so you shouldn't be concerned with your team's skill. It's usually a lot more fun to do what you want instead of what you think you need to do at low levels.
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
December 13 2012 13:53 GMT
#5
One piece of advise I'd give is not to play a hard support pre-30. At all. Unless you're with a player you know and trust. You're reliant on the carry not sucking, and if the carry is bad at last-hitting, there is literally nothing you can do to win your lane. If you want to play a "support" role, play a champion that can get by on less farm and buy some wards, but has an actual role besides babysitting the carry. Alistar is really good for this, since he can be a decent tank later in the game, and isn't worthless if your carry is bad. You can play him pure support if your carry is decent by pumping Triumphant Roar and adjusting your item build but if your carry sucks, you can abandon that plan and go for Q and W, start last-hitting in earnest yourself, and play a tanky Alistar instead.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
December 13 2012 13:58 GMT
#6
On December 13 2012 22:46 FSKi wrote:
This doesn't go away when you hit 30 and play ranked. It gets slightly better in the sense that people don't usually end up picking multiple of the same role, but either people won't communicate during picks and you get a shit team comp, or everyone argues over positions and you lose because people are playing stuff they don't know. I played a ranked game with a Sona yesterday who didn't have support masteries, bought no wards all game, auto attacked the lane, took my cs, and fed the enemy adc 0-4. The worst part about it was that person called support in the first place. Unfortunately, because it's a free game, there are a lot of retards at the low level. If you're trying to advance in ELO, I'd recommend playing jungle or mid primarily, because it gives the most opportunity to roam and have a larger impact on the early to mid game. I've been trying to learn bot lane personally, playing adc and support in ranked. I've learned adc is too dependent on support and jungler to effectively "carry" a game if other positions aren't playing up to par.

I'll never understand people who solo queue. I refuse to play without another person that I know. 2 players can carry a game so much better than 1
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Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
December 13 2012 14:05 GMT
#7
Some people don't know other level 30 LoL players, others don't know enough that they always have a friend available when they feel like a game or two.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
December 13 2012 14:08 GMT
#8
Playing LoL alone is like 5on5 Counterstrike on public server. NO FUN AT ALL.
Get 2-3 friends playing with you. Even with a whole team i never enjoyed the game. I got DOTA2 Beta, same shit diffrent game. Since there are no mechanics to train massing games on yourself will just be frustrating and boring since you always will get players (like me) that play once a month and after 10 minutes of farming try to attack and die instantly feeding the rest of the time.

Get a Team, or play Starcraft 1v1.
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
diLLa
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands247 Posts
December 13 2012 14:12 GMT
#9
Just practice mechanics during those games. Create challenges for yourself, like a certain cs count at 20 mins. This way you challenge yourself, even if the match or team is complete shite.

Try a lot of champions just for the sake of learning.

Try out different item builds.

It will get better already at like lvl 20 anyway, at least compared to lvl 1-10
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14105 Posts
December 13 2012 14:21 GMT
#10
Don't play support before 30. There really just ins't a reason for it. Just play random champs and go on runs with ones you think are fun. Don't respect the meta when you don't have runes or masteries to worry about.

You really just gotta concentrate on trying to have fun. don't burn yourself out trying to be srs at all about it you'll have plenty of time to do that when you get to 30 like the rest of us.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
McDutch
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands184 Posts
December 13 2012 15:12 GMT
#11
On December 13 2012 23:21 Sermokala wrote:
Don't play support before 30. There really just ins't a reason for it. Just play random champs and go on runs with ones you think are fun. Don't respect the meta when you don't have runes or masteries to worry about.

You really just gotta concentrate on trying to have fun. don't burn yourself out trying to be srs at all about it you'll have plenty of time to do that when you get to 30 like the rest of us.


ye, quited picking support from today.. When your AD sucks, there is absolutly nothing you can do on winning the lane, and you're quite useless the whole game on

i think i just gonna find a few people to play normals with.. when i played as support, and had a good AD, we could easly carry the game together ^^

thx for all the reactions so far
naniwa, grubby, white-ra, ret
nanospartan
Profile Joined July 2011
649 Posts
December 13 2012 15:32 GMT
#12
The ignore button is your friend :3
I was an athiest until I watched the Day[9] daily
McDutch
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands184 Posts
December 13 2012 15:39 GMT
#13
On December 14 2012 00:32 nanospartan wrote:
The ignore button is your friend :3


Then they'll probably report me for not communicating
naniwa, grubby, white-ra, ret
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
December 13 2012 15:41 GMT
#14
On December 14 2012 00:39 McDutch wrote:
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On December 14 2012 00:32 nanospartan wrote:
The ignore button is your friend :3


Then they'll probably report me for not communicating


Out of 1000 reports, 1 is probably for not communicating I agree with nano, ignore ppl you dont get along with or that are annoying and focus on the game.
KCCO!
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4156 Posts
December 13 2012 15:42 GMT
#15
On December 14 2012 00:12 McDutch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 23:21 Sermokala wrote:
Don't play support before 30. There really just ins't a reason for it. Just play random champs and go on runs with ones you think are fun. Don't respect the meta when you don't have runes or masteries to worry about.

You really just gotta concentrate on trying to have fun. don't burn yourself out trying to be srs at all about it you'll have plenty of time to do that when you get to 30 like the rest of us.


ye, quited picking support from today.. When your AD sucks, there is absolutly nothing you can do on winning the lane, and you're quite useless the whole game on

i think i just gonna find a few people to play normals with.. when i played as support, and had a good AD, we could easly carry the game together ^^

thx for all the reactions so far

You managed to shove adc and support in one lane? with at least one of them understanding what their roles are? this is more than I have ever achieved in solo blind pick. I don't understand what are you complaining at:-)))))))))))) Playing blind regardless of levels, you have to forget about meta-game, no one gives a shit about it, you play with whatever you feel most comfortable or whatever you like and just try to have fun. don't try to make them playing as a team- useless (maybe in few games you can do it, but the overall effort doesnt pay off)
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
BlACKTrA
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany187 Posts
December 13 2012 15:43 GMT
#16
look for mates at the chat channels, most of the people who are looking for a team are also frustrated with
random players so they behave a lot better..
Add every player who acts nice so you can play with him again
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
December 13 2012 15:44 GMT
#17
-play with friends with voice chat
-get excited collecting champions and runes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Maggost
Profile Joined August 2011
Venezuela296 Posts
December 13 2012 15:53 GMT
#18
On level 1 to level 30 i just played solo, it was very stressfull because there are a lot of feeders, low skilled players (like me) and people who pick the same role than others (I am a metagame whore). So my 70% of games are pure loss (still). I have 296 wins so far and i dont think i will touch ranked because it will be harder.

In short words, the leveling experience for me was pretty hard and long, i could be different for others.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11805 Posts
December 13 2012 16:11 GMT
#19
Don't play alone. It's as simple as that. LoL alone is at best a mediocre game, especially the levelling part. LoL with 2-5 people is a lot more fun.
DwarfTherapist
Profile Joined November 2012
United States48 Posts
December 13 2012 16:15 GMT
#20
I didn't find it so bad.
When i go into an f2p game, i compare it to buying a cheap pc game £20/$30.

I bought a week long exp boost and several of the per game boosts.
Just played like mad with one other friend (we used to play sc2 1v1 and dota2 a lot) so we we're both far and away the better players in every match.

I can't remember the exact numbers but i think i was getting 500ish exp per game.

When i had nobody to play with i'd grind out solo bot (1v1) games just perfecting my last hit and winning at 11 minute mark for fast exp. 6 of those per hour roughly, pulling in 200+ exp per game.

By the time we hit level 30 we only had about 60 normal wins (60:35 iirc) and quite a lot of the 11 minute drills (also useful for perfecting jungle runs).

I gotta say, playing ranked was fucking awful. The skill level was SO much lower. In our first game (i play support) my AD friend went 20/0 and i was on something like 2/0/20 playing soraka.

turns out the only way we can enjoy the game is playing normals, we get consistently close and challenging games. We tried to stick with ranked, but even at 1600 elo everyone is still so much worse than in the normals.


tl;dr it starts bad and only gets worse.
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