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Oerbaa
Profile Joined October 2011
Scotland184 Posts
December 04 2012 14:38 GMT
#81
Darius new king of the jungle ! and Olaf.
I came here to kick as and drink milk, and ive finished my milk
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
December 04 2012 14:38 GMT
#82
On December 04 2012 23:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
I don't like that you have to manually switch away from the Riot Recommended Items(tm), other than that, it's better.

Also, hybrid pen runes now. on everybody that even remotely does mixed damage.

The question is why they aren't copying Dota 2, where you can edit the recommended items INSIDE the shop interface, without even leaving the game. The recommended items look vastly improved in this version though.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 14:43:04
December 04 2012 14:42 GMT
#83
Depending on how good bottle starts will be I think that the only good jungling masteries are 0/21/9, 0/12/18 or 0/11/18 (with 2 of spellvamp+lifesteal, experience or gold) or maybe, MAYBE 0/9/21, but 21 in defense is definitely going to be most standard. 7.12% bonus to survivability for 4 mastery points is just too good to pass up most of the time.
I guess 21/9/0 still might be viable on Kayle and Diana jungle. As if anyone cares.

Taking a look at the items now, can't find Wriggles/Madreds on the LoL official website.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 04 2012 14:44 GMT
#84
On December 04 2012 15:50 Parnage wrote:
Did anyone else just get Nocturne ultied?

*shrug* anyway, So who's going to be the big bad bosses of the new jungle?

My money is on Warwick, Gangplank, Yi, and Khazikstan. Diana is also on the list assuming she's not nerfed to oblivion in the next patch.

I read somewhere that since the Machete gives all your shit extra 10% damage, Udyr is, well still is one of the fastest clears since the AOE from Phoenix stance gets the 10% bonus damage also.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
December 04 2012 14:45 GMT
#85
Honestly, an insane amount of good changes. Riot really going big.

With this sort of support, I have no doubt that League will be the premier (read: most-watched and played) MOBA for a while. The spectator numbers at IPL were amazing as well.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
December 04 2012 14:48 GMT
#86
On December 04 2012 23:45 Crownlol wrote:
Honestly, an insane amount of good changes. Riot really going big.

With this sort of support, I have no doubt that League will be the premier (read: most-watched and played) MOBA for a while. The spectator numbers at IPL were amazing as well.


I saw a steady 100k+ in group stages.

Does anyone know semi's/finals numbers?

Chaox playing the new patch atm with Cait. Hoping that he goes Runaan's, I'm interested to see how strong it will be on her.

Also, does the aoe dmg of those aoe items provide lifesteal aswell?
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Vernom
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Spain374 Posts
December 04 2012 14:52 GMT
#87
Why is that called Preseason 3 patch? didn't season 3 already start?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 04 2012 14:53 GMT
#88
On December 04 2012 23:48 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 23:45 Crownlol wrote:
Honestly, an insane amount of good changes. Riot really going big.

With this sort of support, I have no doubt that League will be the premier (read: most-watched and played) MOBA for a while. The spectator numbers at IPL were amazing as well.


I saw a steady 100k+ in group stages.

Does anyone know semi's/finals numbers?

Chaox playing the new patch atm with Cait. Hoping that he goes Runaan's, I'm interested to see how strong it will be on her.

Also, does the aoe dmg of those aoe items provide lifesteal aswell?

Runan's supposedly procs on-hit. If it does that, lifesteal is included
A backwards poet writes inverse.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 14:54:37
December 04 2012 14:54 GMT
#89
nvm
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
December 04 2012 14:56 GMT
#90
On December 04 2012 23:48 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 23:45 Crownlol wrote:
Honestly, an insane amount of good changes. Riot really going big.

With this sort of support, I have no doubt that League will be the premier (read: most-watched and played) MOBA for a while. The spectator numbers at IPL were amazing as well.


I saw a steady 100k+ in group stages.

Does anyone know semi's/finals numbers?

Chaox playing the new patch atm with Cait. Hoping that he goes Runaan's, I'm interested to see how strong it will be on her.

Also, does the aoe dmg of those aoe items provide lifesteal aswell?



It was breaking 180k on Twitch Sunday when I was watching. Huge numbers, and I don't know if that includes people watching on the main site.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4664 Posts
December 04 2012 14:57 GMT
#91
So I'm 90% sure that Ravenous Hydra resets AA animation. Anyone else know if this is true or if it's already been discovered? Pretty cool thing that you can use to marginally increase DPS, especially with 10s cooldown you can maybe use it once or twice a fight.
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 04 2012 14:58 GMT
#92
Man, why do they have machete as a recommended item for any of the champs? At the level where people look at recommended items, they're not going to be jungling and it'll just throw them off :\
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 15:02 GMT
#93
On December 04 2012 23:58 thenexusp wrote:
Man, why do they have machete as a recommended item for any of the champs? At the level where people look at recommended items, they're not going to be jungling and it'll just throw them off :\

For champs that mainly jungle (which they've done an ok job of singling out) it's good for quick start of the game "grab and run", rather than searching for it.

Will invades on junglers still start boots, or do you think they'll still grab machete and just be slightly behind the group, but still able to clear afterwards?
It's your boy Guzma!
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 15:10:01
December 04 2012 15:07 GMT
#94
On December 04 2012 23:57 hasuprotoss wrote:
So I'm 90% sure that Ravenous Hydra resets AA animation. Anyone else know if this is true or if it's already been discovered? Pretty cool thing that you can use to marginally increase DPS, especially with 10s cooldown you can maybe use it once or twice a fight.


yeah it resets aa animation. it means that you have to wait for the next auto attack to come up but the new tiamat does add a nice chipper bit to your clear time and battle damage.

On December 05 2012 00:02 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 23:58 thenexusp wrote:
Man, why do they have machete as a recommended item for any of the champs? At the level where people look at recommended items, they're not going to be jungling and it'll just throw them off :\

For champs that mainly jungle (which they've done an ok job of singling out) it's good for quick start of the game "grab and run", rather than searching for it.

Will invades on junglers still start boots, or do you think they'll still grab machete and just be slightly behind the group, but still able to clear afterwards?


You don't start with boots on anyone. the benefit that you get with it over a flask opening even for invades is simply worse. I've had games where I go without boots completly for 10-15 minutes and I didn't notice it a thing.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
December 04 2012 15:08 GMT
#95
On December 04 2012 23:38 Oerbaa wrote:
Darius new king of the jungle ! and Olaf.

man i "mained" jungle darius before it was cool, now its going to be fotm, so mad right now -.-
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 15:11 GMT
#96
On December 05 2012 00:08 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 23:38 Oerbaa wrote:
Darius new king of the jungle ! and Olaf.

man i "mained" jungle darius before it was cool, now its going to be fotm, so mad right now -.-

It was always good, except if you ever got behind it was fucking brutal to get back into relevancy.

New Nami skin. Looks good, ult has little fishes is the only animation change:

It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 15:17 GMT
#97
On December 05 2012 00:07 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 23:57 hasuprotoss wrote:
So I'm 90% sure that Ravenous Hydra resets AA animation. Anyone else know if this is true or if it's already been discovered? Pretty cool thing that you can use to marginally increase DPS, especially with 10s cooldown you can maybe use it once or twice a fight.


yeah it resets aa animation. it means that you have to wait for the next auto attack to come up but the new tiamat does add a nice chipper bit to your clear time and battle damage.

Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 00:02 Requizen wrote:
On December 04 2012 23:58 thenexusp wrote:
Man, why do they have machete as a recommended item for any of the champs? At the level where people look at recommended items, they're not going to be jungling and it'll just throw them off :\

For champs that mainly jungle (which they've done an ok job of singling out) it's good for quick start of the game "grab and run", rather than searching for it.

Will invades on junglers still start boots, or do you think they'll still grab machete and just be slightly behind the group, but still able to clear afterwards?


You don't start with boots on anyone. the benefit that you get with it over a flask opening even for invades is simply worse. I've had games where I go without boots completly for 10-15 minutes and I didn't notice it a thing.

Which junglers do you think will start Flask over Machete? Nunu because he can do whatever the hell he wants, but I can't really think of any others whose clear won't be really hurt by not having it.
It's your boy Guzma!
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
December 04 2012 15:18 GMT
#98
I'm really open-minded towards almost all the new changes. Going to be interesting how things evolve in the near future.

As a dedicated AD player, the only thing that really concerns me is Randuin's Omen proccing every freaking time now. When you take into account that AS has been made more expensive and the former main AS item Phantom Dancer was nerfed very hard, this will really lower the DPS output so that AD carries can be tanked a lot longer - which doesn't sound too fair since they get really nothing in return to improve their survivability.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
December 04 2012 15:19 GMT
#99
the acceleration of bounty values alone makes revive/tele (particularly on singed! ) worth taking a look at
cool beans
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 04 2012 15:22 GMT
#100
On December 05 2012 00:17 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 00:07 Sermokala wrote:
On December 04 2012 23:57 hasuprotoss wrote:
So I'm 90% sure that Ravenous Hydra resets AA animation. Anyone else know if this is true or if it's already been discovered? Pretty cool thing that you can use to marginally increase DPS, especially with 10s cooldown you can maybe use it once or twice a fight.


yeah it resets aa animation. it means that you have to wait for the next auto attack to come up but the new tiamat does add a nice chipper bit to your clear time and battle damage.

On December 05 2012 00:02 Requizen wrote:
On December 04 2012 23:58 thenexusp wrote:
Man, why do they have machete as a recommended item for any of the champs? At the level where people look at recommended items, they're not going to be jungling and it'll just throw them off :\

For champs that mainly jungle (which they've done an ok job of singling out) it's good for quick start of the game "grab and run", rather than searching for it.

Will invades on junglers still start boots, or do you think they'll still grab machete and just be slightly behind the group, but still able to clear afterwards?


You don't start with boots on anyone. the benefit that you get with it over a flask opening even for invades is simply worse. I've had games where I go without boots completly for 10-15 minutes and I didn't notice it a thing.

Which junglers do you think will start Flask over Machete? Nunu because he can do whatever the hell he wants, but I can't really think of any others whose clear won't be really hurt by not having it.


No one with start Flask instead of Machete, but with the Wealth mastery you can start both. This only really works on junglers with good sustain/defenses, but it does work.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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