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On December 14 2012 00:15 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 00:06 Caphe wrote:On December 13 2012 23:55 Crownlol wrote:
This thread needs moderation like the SC2 ones get. Too much whine on here. Difference community, but yeah SC:BW has the best community then come SC2. MOBA games such as LOL and Dota2 are worse, nothing you can do about that. Also, playing on CN server, I got one problem coming into this thread, I need to learn all the new items name in 2 languages in order to understand what you guys are talking about here. Better learn them now before the abbreviations get to common! LT op, SotD is good cheese maybe, RH is a noob trap, Z doesn't help you not get blown up, SS still need to do the math on if it's better than PD, SS is too good on junglers and supports, please remember to call your SS's, RB best MR item, SV next best, and not to be confused with SoSW which gives SV, MR doesn't gives armor but not MR, MM's upgrade MM is really good on certain champs, M&Ms are delicious, MS is a good lategame item but only gives MS conditionally You know I wish Riot thought about abbreviations when naming items
You're quoting someone mentioning BW, so all I read is LT = Lost Temple, RH = Rush Hour, Z = Zerg, MM/M&M = Marine/Medic...
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Bummed they didn't put runes on sale for Snowdown. I missed buying T3 runes during the sale last year by a few levels. Should've have powered harder! Have they said anything about rune sales in the future? I'll probably just use my saved IP for champs now 
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On December 14 2012 00:24 Caphe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 00:15 thenexusp wrote:On December 14 2012 00:06 Caphe wrote:On December 13 2012 23:55 Crownlol wrote:
This thread needs moderation like the SC2 ones get. Too much whine on here. Difference community, but yeah SC:BW has the best community then come SC2. MOBA games such as LOL and Dota2 are worse, nothing you can do about that. Also, playing on CN server, I got one problem coming into this thread, I need to learn all the new items name in 2 languages in order to understand what you guys are talking about here. Better learn them now before the abbreviations get to common! LT op, SotD is good cheese maybe, RH is a noob trap, Z doesn't help you not get blown up, SS still need to do the math on if it's better than PD, SS is too good on junglers and supports, please remember to call your SS's, RB best MR item, SV next best, and not to be confused with SoSW which gives SV, MR doesn't gives armor but not MR, MM's upgrade MM is really good on certain champs, M&Ms are delicious, MS is a good lategame item but only gives MS conditionally You know I wish Riot thought about abbreviations when naming items Ok, good sir, now you got me all confused lol. Chinese also has abbr for items name, but the way they do it is by describe the item's look(or what it does) rather than trying to shortened the name of the item. Like PD in Chinese would be "red x", Zeal would be "yellow x" etc. I like the Chinese abbr though since they are very easy to remember.
I'm purposely being confusing lol, I wouldn't use half those abbreviation in real chat
Statikk Shiv, Sight stone, Spirit stone, Mia/SS all have the same abbreviation, which is annoying
Mercurial Scimitar has the same abbreviation as Movement Speed.
Spirit Visage has the same abbreviation as Spell Vamp.
Zephyr is just awkward to abbreviate, looks too much like Zerg. It doesn't seem like a common enough buy that it'd matter though.
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On December 13 2012 23:52 Sermokala wrote:
christ how come no one is talking about hurricane rush kog? the damage on it gets so out of control on him.
i think hurricane would be rly good on cait. doesnt the powershot she has also get splitted? has anyone tried that one yet?
or ashe with multiple icearrows anyone?
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On December 14 2012 00:59 AssiRoyal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 23:52 Sermokala wrote:
christ how come no one is talking about hurricane rush kog? the damage on it gets so out of control on him. i think hurricane would be rly good on cait. doesnt the powershot she has also get splitted? has anyone tried that one yet? or ashe with multiple icearrows anyone?
cait gets stacks on her headshot faster when hitting multiple targets but only the main target ever gets the bonus damage.
Ashe already can do multiple icearrows with her W, so it's questionable how much extra utility the hurricane gives.
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On December 13 2012 16:06 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 09:00 obesechicken13 wrote:On December 13 2012 08:32 Ketara wrote:On December 13 2012 08:12 101toss wrote:On December 13 2012 07:53 Ketara wrote:
Just because it's often not doing full damage, doesn't mean it's not doing damage. The thing has 70 AP on it, and magic pen, and HP. What item are you comparing it to? Haunting guise. 200hp? Check 15mpen? Check 25ap? Not enough here, but toss on a blasting wand (only 860g) and you've got around the same ap. That means you get 600g to spend on another item that does more damage (plus that bwand actually builds into core items for all casters). People confuse teemo shrooms retarded base damage with liandry's damage and it's making me sad  You are completely ignoring me. Here's some math for you. I'm playing Teemo. I got a Deathcap and a Void Staff. I've also got boots and a sightstone and a haunting guise. I'm having a pretty good day. Lets say I'm a fairly standard AP build and I'm level 18. I've got 333.502 AP with all this stuff. Neat. My mushrooms are doing 866.8016 damage. Also neat. I've got room in my inventory for one more major item. I want something that is going to give me the most damage possible on my mushrooms for the least gold possible. What do I get? I could get a Deathfire Grasp for 3000 gold. That gives 130 AP with deathcap/masteries, which would be another 104 damage on my mushrooms. I could get a Zhonyas Hourglass for 3100 gold. That gives 130 AP with deathcap/masteries, which would be another 104 damage on my mushrooms. Or I could get a Liandry's Lament for 1415 gold. That only gives 58.5 AP with deathcap/masteries, which would be another 46.8 damage on my mushrooms. But it has that passive and slows, so would do 5% current HP damage to the target over 1.5 seconds. How much current HP would the target have to have for 5% of it to be the 45.5 necessary to make that proc do as much damage as a Deathfire Grasp? Only 910 HP. At level 18 how many champions will have more than 910 HP after being hit by the mushroom? Damn near everybody. And it only cost 1415 gold instead of 3000! And I still have an item slot left! In fact, instead of paying 3000 gold for a Deathfire Grasp I could get Liandry's Lament and a Needlessly Large Rod. Then I'm certainly doing more damage than I would be if I'd gotten that Deathfire Grasp! Edit: Oh but wait, Liandry's and Teemo mushrooms don't work well together! Each second you take damage and that reapplies the effect and causes Liandry's to miss a tick of damage! So the last tick of shroom damage will make Liandry's do 5% current health damage, and the first few ticks will make Liandry's do... More than nothing. So instead of taking 5% HP damage from Liandry's, you're taking some amount MORE than 5%. Totally crappy with mushrooms. I'm actually curious if Liandry gets ticks off when Teemo's poison is active, and if so, how many ticks on average. I can neither discount nor prove the 13% stated above. I think the argument it doesn't work well with Teemo is half from when someone hits a mushroom and then you autoattack them, because then for a long time Liandry's might not be hurting them at all because it keeps getting refreshed by Teemo's poison. Here's some data on Liandry's - AoE and DoT based spells halve the number of ticks rather than the duration. It may seem like a technicality, but a simple halved duration (re wording of the tooltip) would imply the full 5% over 1.5 seconds; instead, it's halved to 2.5% over 1.5 seconds. http://www.reignofgaming.net/forums/strategy/champions-and-gameplay/29479-item-mechanics-liandrys-tormenthttp://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Liandry's_TormentSo Teemo will theoretically only get 5% from one Liandry's proc. Also: - The damage is dealt over 6 ticks at 0.5 second intervals, with the initial tick being on contact and hidden by the spell itself. So Liandry's will proc at least one time. But depending on the dot frequency of Teemo's poison, it may not proc again until after Teemo's poison wears off, which would mean it gets half efficiency. I'm tired. Baylife. I realize i am a bit late to this, but we now have two contradicting versions of how liandrys works here on this forum. Either it applies on the first hit, but is hidden by the spell that procs it on display, or the first tick gets munched. I'd really like to know which is true. It would be pretty easy to test this by building liandrys on someone with a dot, and only hp on someone else, and then calculate how much damage it should do, i assume, but sadly i don't have anyone around who would do that with me at the moment.
I'll probably try it out in a custom bot game against blue golem some time. You don't need a high hp target to do the necessary calculations if you use no runes or masteries.
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On December 14 2012 01:01 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 00:59 AssiRoyal wrote:On December 13 2012 23:52 Sermokala wrote:
christ how come no one is talking about hurricane rush kog? the damage on it gets so out of control on him. i think hurricane would be rly good on cait. doesnt the powershot she has also get splitted? has anyone tried that one yet? or ashe with multiple icearrows anyone? cait gets stacks on her headshot faster when hitting multiple targets but only the main target ever gets the bonus damage. Ashe already can do multiple icearrows with her W, so it's questionable how much extra utility the hurricane gives.
but the extra arrows from her Q would also slow huh?
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Ok guys can someone whos high Elo EUW maybe explain to me why the people there hate our fellow Entenzwerg so much/troll him quite often?
We had this a few month ago but he's received a timeban again and I read through his tribunal case and I think it's just ridiculous. "STFU You're stupid" was the only questionable thing in 4(!) reports and that's like the most polite thing ever compared the all the shit I hear in Solo Q everyday. I also check out his stream from time to time because he's a fellow TL'ler and I play ad, as well; he seemed like one of the nicest streamers out there, keeping a positive attitude even when getting shit like J4 or Ashe support, he doesn't complain in chat at all.
his recent tribunal case.
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/508702/#nogo
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On December 14 2012 00:22 thenexusp wrote:
hurricane on koggles might be good if you make an aoe teamcomp but I don't think it's something you would get every game.
I honestly think hurricane would fit an AP teemo better. You only need to get in range once to get poisoned and even one hit has a .8 AP ratio. Contrast that with Kog where both targets would need 3000 HP to do the same damage with one hit. You might get two off (which would make it more comparable minus Teemo's AP) but with inconsistent runaan's procs Teemo scales better in this situation and is a bigger jerk. Teemo just doesn't build runaan's right now because liandry's + CDR means fun fun shroom fields.
Kennen is the most fun though because when their melee bruisers do group together you get to stunlock one of them for a million years.
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not my last game but 1 before i got stunlocked by a whole team so long i was khazix and was spamming jump but nope i got killed 2 times(ga) without being able to move but since the other team blew everything on me we won
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On December 14 2012 01:20 AsnSensation wrote:
We had this a few month ago but he's received a timeban again and I read through his tribunal case and I think it's just ridiculous. "STFU You're stupid" was the only questionable thing in 4(!) reports and that's like the most polite thing ever compared the all the shit I hear in Solo Q everyday.
Several times he called the other people on his team trolls and wouldn't let them do certain lanes in addition to other small attitude things. The people doing the tribunal mostly have no context for him being trolled and his negativity (light as it was) is not technically excusable. It's not fair but when everyone hates you the only way to protect yourself from the inevitable tribunal cases is to become a bloody angel.
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On December 14 2012 01:20 AsnSensation wrote:Ok guys can someone whos high Elo EUW maybe explain to me why the people there hate our fellow Entenzwerg so much/troll him quite often? We had this a few month ago but he's received a timeban again and I read through his tribunal case and I think it's just ridiculous. "STFU You're stupid" was the only questionable thing in 4(!) reports and that's like the most polite thing ever compared the all the shit I hear in Solo Q everyday. I also check out his stream from time to time because he's a fellow TL'ler and I play ad, as well; he seemed like one of the nicest streamers out there, keeping a positive attitude even when getting shit like J4 or Ashe support, he doesn't complain in chat at all. his recent tribunal case. http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/508702/#nogo
A lot of people seem confused about this but the fraction of reports that actually contain bannable content is not relevant, all that matters is that there is one game where the guy said something bad
basically, if someone called people stupid in game 3 only, we can imagine a different tribunal case containing only game 3, which would be a punish. Adding false reports from games 1, 2 and 4 doesn't change the overall verdict.
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How does tenacity stacking work? Does it have DR, or is it unique? Specifically wondering about the Tenacious mastery point and Irelia.
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On December 14 2012 01:38 phyvo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 01:20 AsnSensation wrote:
We had this a few month ago but he's received a timeban again and I read through his tribunal case and I think it's just ridiculous. "STFU You're stupid" was the only questionable thing in 4(!) reports and that's like the most polite thing ever compared the all the shit I hear in Solo Q everyday. Several times he called the other people on his team trolls and wouldn't let them do certain lanes in addition to other small attitude things. The people doing the tribunal mostly have no context for him being trolled and his negativity (light as it was) is not technically excusable. It's not fair but when everyone hates you the only way to protect yourself from the inevitable tribunal cases is to become a bloody angel.
well, he got reported for
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lol
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Dude elise feels way op with the new pen changes and shit, who was making a thread for her? They should do that shit. She is nuts. I didn't realize she has the biggest AS steroid in the game.
Also its funny to lay down the explosive spider and then switch to spider form and Q someone, it leaps all the way to your target. Hilarious. I actually used this to kill someone over a wall, as normally the explosive spider cant cross walls.
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Also, what were they thinking when they made Eliesas Miracle? It makes no sense as an item
Stats
+10 health regen per 5 seconds
+15 mana regen per 5 seconds.
Passive
Unique Passive – Aid: Your Summoner Heal, Revive and Clairvoyance cooldowns are reduced by 20%.
Unique Passive – Eleisa's Blessing: If you gain 3 levels with this item, you gain all the effects permanently and this item is consumed.
So you get regen that doesn't fill a slot...and then they slap this other passive which is specifically attractive to supports. Supports being the only champs who would be completely uninterested in losing philo's GP5 and don't care about slot efficiancy. Waht?
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On December 14 2012 02:03 HazMat wrote:
How does tenacity stacking work? Does it have DR, or is it unique? Specifically wondering about the Tenacious mastery point and Irelia.
I heard it stacks multiplicatively, at least that's what it says in the lolpedia o:
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Crowd_control#Tenacity
Another form of Tenacity but these effects can stack multiplicatively with Tenacity and with other type of CC duration reduction. Note: This does not reduce the potency of the effect.
*Irelia's Ionian Fervor reduces the duration of CC by 10% / 25% / 40% for 1 / 2 / 3 nearby enemy champion(s).
Sadly I'm extremely bad at numbers so I don't know how would it interact with the "multiplicatively" part
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On December 14 2012 02:03 HazMat wrote:
How does tenacity stacking work? Does it have DR, or is it unique? Specifically wondering about the Tenacious mastery point and Irelia.
Tenacious is provide as % CC reduction, which means it stacks multiplicatively with Ionian Fervor and Tenacity (from boots/zephyr/stone).
40% Ionian Fervor + 15% Tenacious = 49% CC reduction***
40% Ionian Fervor + 15% Tenacious + 35% Tenacity = 66% CC reduction
***40% CC reduction means that CC is applied at 60% duration, 60% duration x 85% duration = 51% duration -> 49% reduction
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On December 13 2012 20:48 TheKefka wrote:All your fangirls are belong to us.
Well theres my new favorite team lol
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On December 14 2012 01:57 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 01:20 AsnSensation wrote:Ok guys can someone whos high Elo EUW maybe explain to me why the people there hate our fellow Entenzwerg so much/troll him quite often? We had this a few month ago but he's received a timeban again and I read through his tribunal case and I think it's just ridiculous. "STFU You're stupid" was the only questionable thing in 4(!) reports and that's like the most polite thing ever compared the all the shit I hear in Solo Q everyday. I also check out his stream from time to time because he's a fellow TL'ler and I play ad, as well; he seemed like one of the nicest streamers out there, keeping a positive attitude even when getting shit like J4 or Ashe support, he doesn't complain in chat at all. his recent tribunal case. http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/508702/#nogo A lot of people seem confused about this but the fraction of reports that actually contain bannable content is not relevant, all that matters is that there is one game where the guy said something bad basically, if someone called people stupid in game 3 only, we can imagine a different tribunal case containing only game 3, which would be a punish. Adding false reports from games 1, 2 and 4 doesn't change the overall verdict.
I didn't know that, imo the tribunal is super flawed then. In the reddit thread there are quite a few people that admitted that they are 10 times more toxic than Ente and have never been banned. If it's indeed the case like you said that only 1 single offense ( a mild one in this case imo) is enough to justify a ban, I wonder if the heavy flamers I report everyday are actually banned ( I don't think so)
Well, maybe we will hear something from Riot, since he has been unbanned before after Riot looked into his case and found him "wronlgy" banned.
Still waiting for some EUW High Elo Solo Q people to tell me why exactly he's hated so much.
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