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Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
December 11 2012 15:05 GMT
#3361
On December 12 2012 00:01 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 23:56 Shiv. wrote:
On December 11 2012 23:54 Sermokala wrote:


I think riot really needs to look at mr items and try to make them easier to itemize. I'm not sure what that means but I can't really look at too many of them as a tank in the modern meta and see value. Expecialy for supports I only see Health really as the preferred tanking ap stat. anyone know a good tanking mr item?

There is no modern meta as of now.


I ment my current meta of diveing into the enemy and dieing instantly. with hp being more cost efficent then getting mr or armor its better off for you to just do and die for damacia.

But regardless (see your edit now) Whats a good tanking mr item? Should I be picking up the hexdrinker or a wits end?

Spirit Visage is pretty decent actually and I really like the new Banshees.
currently rooting for myself.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 11 2012 15:14 GMT
#3362
Bulwark is probably the best MR item in the game right now imo. If there's not one on your team and you want MR, buy it. SV overtakes it when you have a healing ability for the passive, or if you don't necessarily want another Bulwark because someone has one.
It's your boy Guzma!
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
December 11 2012 15:15 GMT
#3363
Yeah nobody should be complaining about needing MR items now, Runic Bulwark and Mercurial Scimitar are amazing.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 11 2012 15:21 GMT
#3364
Also, apparently spirit visage is bugged atm and still gives the old 15% heal amplification.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 11 2012 15:23 GMT
#3365
On December 11 2012 16:29 HeavOnEarth wrote:
yoooo! whats ur ID ON LOLOL ?

ezpz making comeback into LoL at worst patch in entire history of league
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Rookie6
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil583 Posts
December 11 2012 15:25 GMT
#3366
Ok guys, quick question: best Twisted Fate skin ?
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 15:28:12
December 11 2012 15:26 GMT
#3367
On December 12 2012 00:14 Requizen wrote:
Bulwark is probably the best MR item in the game right now imo. If there's not one on your team and you want MR, buy it. SV overtakes it when you have a healing ability for the passive, or if you don't necessarily want another Bulwark because someone has one.


You forgot the value of SV if you enjoy CDR but yeah pretty much right on. If they can just get the feeling that resists are a tad more worthwhile at the moment I think armor and mr and really in a neat place for itemization options.

Underworld Twisted Fate #1 imo, Jack of Hearts/Musketeer are tied for second place.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
December 11 2012 15:26 GMT
#3368
On December 12 2012 00:25 Rookie6 wrote:
Ok guys, quick question: best Twisted Fate skin ?


Pax TF not a discussion statement of fact.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
adriftt
Profile Joined March 2012
335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 15:31:41
December 11 2012 15:27 GMT
#3369
On December 12 2012 00:25 Rookie6 wrote:
Ok guys, quick question: best Twisted Fate skin ?


sadly it is now the Halloween one because the remake made all the other ones look ridiculous. especially the legendary one.. its really ridiculous looking
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 11 2012 15:29 GMT
#3370
I want an Old TF skin, that reverts his model and animations to the old ones.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
December 11 2012 15:32 GMT
#3371
On December 12 2012 00:25 Rookie6 wrote:
Ok guys, quick question: best Twisted Fate skin ?


Best is always relative.

In other news, What is the general consensus on what to start as support? I've been getting Faerie charm + Bead + 2 wards and backing early for fast philo and pots.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 11 2012 15:32 GMT
#3372
Finally, getting my S3 patch tomorrow, cant wait woot woot!!! League of Cleaver here I come .
Terran
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
December 11 2012 15:36 GMT
#3373
On December 12 2012 00:01 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 23:56 Shiv. wrote:
On December 11 2012 23:54 Sermokala wrote:


I think riot really needs to look at mr items and try to make them easier to itemize. I'm not sure what that means but I can't really look at too many of them as a tank in the modern meta and see value. Expecialy for supports I only see Health really as the preferred tanking ap stat. anyone know a good tanking mr item?

There is no modern meta as of now.


I ment my current meta of diveing into the enemy and dieing instantly. with hp being more cost efficent then getting mr or armor its better off for you to just do and die for damacia.

But regardless (see your edit now) Whats a good tanking mr item? Should I be picking up the hexdrinker or a wits end?



Depending on the tank, Twin Shadows is fine, Spirit Visage and Bulwark/Aegis are still options if you want health, if they have a very heavy CC team I could see an arguement for Mercurial Scimitar. And they are apparently buffing Banshee's Veil? It seems like there are a few choices.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
December 11 2012 15:37 GMT
#3374
On December 12 2012 00:26 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 00:25 Rookie6 wrote:
Ok guys, quick question: best Twisted Fate skin ?


Pax TF not a discussion statement of fact.

I agree, too bad its so rare =[
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 11 2012 15:39 GMT
#3375
On December 12 2012 00:32 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 00:25 Rookie6 wrote:
Ok guys, quick question: best Twisted Fate skin ?


Best is always relative.

In other news, What is the general consensus on what to start as support? I've been getting Faerie charm + Bead + 2 wards and backing early for fast philo and pots.

bead + 4w + pot imo
faerie is useless. No need to buy it. wards are way better. You don't actually WANT to go b so early.

Been trying flask with wards and some pots too, it's decent on the more tanky supports I feel like. Taric/Leona I liked it on. Downside is, because of no gp10, I always feel the need to go sightstone, and you don't always get to the >800 gold to buy sightstone + goodies.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2338 Posts
December 11 2012 15:40 GMT
#3376
The problem is negatron cloak still doesn't build into anything good in terms of actual magic res. When you're facing a fed AP, you want to pick up a negatron then turn it into something stronger later, but the fact is you can't. For some retarded reason they removed FoN and never replaced it with anything.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
December 11 2012 15:42 GMT
#3377
On December 12 2012 00:40 foxmeep wrote:
The problem is negatron cloak still doesn't build into anything good in terms of actual magic res. When you're facing a fed AP, you want to pick up a negatron then turn it into something stronger later, but the fact is you can't. For some retarded reason they removed FoN and never replaced it with anything.



Spirit Visage, Banshee's Veil, and Mecurial Scimitar build out of Negatron Cloak...
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2338 Posts
December 11 2012 15:46 GMT
#3378
On December 12 2012 00:42 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 00:40 foxmeep wrote:
The problem is negatron cloak still doesn't build into anything good in terms of actual magic res. When you're facing a fed AP, you want to pick up a negatron then turn it into something stronger later, but the fact is you can't. For some retarded reason they removed FoN and never replaced it with anything.



Spirit Visage, Banshee's Veil, and Mecurial Scimitar build out of Negatron Cloak...


And you gain no additional magic res out of any of those items, except for 5 more on SV. So I'm spending more money to be exactly 0% better off vs AP. What is the point? :/
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
December 11 2012 15:52 GMT
#3379
On December 12 2012 00:46 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 00:42 Phrost wrote:
On December 12 2012 00:40 foxmeep wrote:
The problem is negatron cloak still doesn't build into anything good in terms of actual magic res. When you're facing a fed AP, you want to pick up a negatron then turn it into something stronger later, but the fact is you can't. For some retarded reason they removed FoN and never replaced it with anything.



Spirit Visage, Banshee's Veil, and Mecurial Scimitar build out of Negatron Cloak...


And you gain no additional magic res out of any of those items, except for 5 more on SV. So I'm spending more money to be exactly 0% better off vs AP. What is the point? :/


They give other stats, like health... Survivability is based on a combination of health and resistances. Both in tandem yield the best results. Also Mecurial Scimitar grants you the ability to break ccs, which as a tank is pretty important to initiate a fight.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 11 2012 15:54 GMT
#3380
On December 12 2012 00:46 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 00:42 Phrost wrote:
On December 12 2012 00:40 foxmeep wrote:
The problem is negatron cloak still doesn't build into anything good in terms of actual magic res. When you're facing a fed AP, you want to pick up a negatron then turn it into something stronger later, but the fact is you can't. For some retarded reason they removed FoN and never replaced it with anything.



Spirit Visage, Banshee's Veil, and Mecurial Scimitar build out of Negatron Cloak...


And you gain no additional magic res out of any of those items, except for 5 more on SV. So I'm spending more money to be exactly 0% better off vs AP. What is the point? :/


You're definitely 0% better off versus AP when you have more health, a shield which blocks one ability, and/or a CC cleanse to break out of their death combo. None of those things help you against an AP in any way. Nope.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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