EPT[Patch 1.0.0.152: Preseason 3] General Discussion - Page 144
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:11 wei2coolman wrote: All I know, is I saw cop play ipl5 as Ashe, had a fucking field day with arrows. I've never seen him play ashe ever before, but by god was it fucking deadly as hell. cop should pretty much only play ashe, and he'd be best ADC. Also, phage nerf hurt cop, #1 phage proccer NA. Cop's main weakness is his laning phase, he almost always seems to come out behind in lane phase. To be honest, curse needs to run 2v1 lanes more, to compensate for it, similar to azubu blaze runs 2v1 to compensate for cpt.jacks poor 2v2 lane phase, and then run low econ game, abusing cop's team fighting skills in midgame. I feel that's an accurate assessment of Cop's primary problem. He does always seem to end up even or behind by the end of laning phase for cs and the like but tends to overtake others if he can in teamfights mid/late game. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On December 10 2012 10:30 Inschato wrote: Uh wouldn't Rammus be a bad choice to counter BC stacking? BC lowers Rammus' damage output.... Rammus isn't exactly meant to do loads of damage anyway, and probably with his defense curl you can easily exceed the amount that bc stacking can do true damage to (just build loads of hp on top of that, don't be the free week rammuses that rush a thornmail and then wonder why their EHP is so low) speaking of defense curl, using it then using rollout should double the damage huehue | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Kaneh
Canada737 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 10 2012 10:27 arb wrote: if people knew how to aim with him it'd be pretty godly too. most of them miss sharks unless the guy is standing still No that's not the problem I am thinking of. In fact it has almost nothing to do with aiming. The problem is that linear collision skillshots falls off really hard in late game when it's on an assassin. Say if I am playing a support (say, Janna) and I am against something like an Ahri, I will just hug my ADC - it's really hard for the Ahri to land her E on my ADC because I will be in the way to block it. The Ahri has to significantly outplay me (e.g. if I didn't pay attention or didn't see the Ahri coming) to land her E even if my ADC does not move at all. LeBlanc also suffers this problem, but Fizz is worse. His ultimate is his key skill and it's a linear collision skillshot that doesn't even immediately do damage. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:19 Kaneh wrote: can someone give me a general build order for darius? seems like i want cdr/tank, but dunno where to get most of it from. You just don't pick him. :[ | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:15 Numy wrote: Xpecial leveling Bloodboil level 1 and not iceball oO Why would he do that. thats standard afaik, why would you level iceball lv1 | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:19 Kaneh wrote: can someone give me a general build order for darius? seems like i want cdr/tank, but dunno where to get most of it from. + Show Spoiler [invalid soon but...] + black cleaver black cleaver black cleaver black cleaver | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:23 zulu_nation8 wrote: thats standard afaik, why would you level iceball lv1 It's a 2v1 vs a Cho? Why wouldn't you level iceball level 1? | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
I don't understand how a pro level team would say "Hey let's do baron at 15 minutes without any chance of being able to do it" *throws up hands* Curse makes me so confused sometimes. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:27 Parnage wrote: The throwbaron by Curse, why would they even think they could do it ><?! I don't understand how a pro level team would say "Hey let's do baron at 15 minutes without any chance of being able to do it" *throws up hands* Curse makes me so confused sometimes. I think they overestimated double AD damage output. But as you can see double AD is very strong though, can bully out towers ezpz. | ||
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:19 Kaneh wrote: can someone give me a general build order for darius? seems like i want cdr/tank, but dunno where to get most of it from. Double Dorans --> Phage --> etcetc. Glacial/Hexdrinker/Giants Belt into Sunfire/Warmogs w/e. That was the standard atleaast. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:26 Numy wrote: It's a 2v1 vs a Cho? Why wouldn't you level iceball level 1? youre usually not supposed to use iceball at all in laning unless all in/near all in trading. It costs too much mana and does too little damage to be used as harass. | ||
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SgtSquiglz
United States668 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:42 wei2coolman wrote: lol, this TSM vs Curse game is so fucking silly. S3 patch nerves, too funny. I think Wombat called it an 1100 elo game lol. That was just so sloppy by both teams. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:44 SgtSquiglz wrote: I think Wombat called it an 1100 elo game lol. That was just so sloppy by both teams. more like 800 elo, so fucking silly. Curse needs to learn how to deal with baron situations better, that's been a biggest cause of their losses, than any single roster issue. Though Curse was behind in gold count most of that game, i still thought they had control of the game at that time, and threw it w/ the 2nd baron attempt. pretty poor showing from both teams. there's a reason why NA Scene is considered trash. Also, observation from a lot of recent pro matches, it seems jungler farm is starting to be more equivalent to top lane farm now, so it seems late game, junglers will have harder impact in lategame fight. Perhaps we'll see some more carry heavy junglers, over utility junglers soon. | ||
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