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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 02:18:59
December 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#2861
Loci playing Cait on Xj9's stream. Never mind someone dodged
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#2862
Xpecial leveling Bloodboil level 1 and not iceball oO Why would he do that.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 10 2012 02:17 GMT
#2863
On December 10 2012 11:11 wei2coolman wrote:
All I know, is I saw cop play ipl5 as Ashe, had a fucking field day with arrows. I've never seen him play ashe ever before, but by god was it fucking deadly as hell. cop should pretty much only play ashe, and he'd be best ADC. Also, phage nerf hurt cop, #1 phage proccer NA.

Cop's main weakness is his laning phase, he almost always seems to come out behind in lane phase. To be honest, curse needs to run 2v1 lanes more, to compensate for it, similar to azubu blaze runs 2v1 to compensate for cpt.jacks poor 2v2 lane phase, and then run low econ game, abusing cop's team fighting skills in midgame.


I feel that's an accurate assessment of Cop's primary problem. He does always seem to end up even or behind by the end of laning phase for cs and the like but tends to overtake others if he can in teamfights mid/late game.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 10 2012 02:17 GMT
#2864
On December 10 2012 10:30 Inschato wrote:
Uh wouldn't Rammus be a bad choice to counter BC stacking? BC lowers Rammus' damage output....

Rammus isn't exactly meant to do loads of damage anyway, and probably with his defense curl you can easily exceed the amount that bc stacking can do true damage to (just build loads of hp on top of that, don't be the free week rammuses that rush a thornmail and then wonder why their EHP is so low)


speaking of defense curl, using it then using rollout should double the damage huehue
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 10 2012 02:18 GMT
#2865
Elementz making Crs reconsidering benching him again >.>
liftlift > tsm
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
December 10 2012 02:19 GMT
#2866
can someone give me a general build order for darius? seems like i want cdr/tank, but dunno where to get most of it from.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 02:22:39
December 10 2012 02:20 GMT
#2867
On December 10 2012 10:27 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 10:17 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:13 57 Corvette wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:11 Sufficiency wrote:
Fizz is FOTM?


Dunno, I've seen a ton of em recently in solo queue.


http://www.lolking.net/champions/fizz#statistics

Doesn't seem he became popular or good. He is still sitting at around 45% winrate for all divisions.

I think if they made Fizz's R a targeted spell with ~700-800 range he will be godly. Until then....

if people knew how to aim with him it'd be pretty godly too.

most of them miss sharks unless the guy is standing still


No that's not the problem I am thinking of. In fact it has almost nothing to do with aiming.

The problem is that linear collision skillshots falls off really hard in late game when it's on an assassin.

Say if I am playing a support (say, Janna) and I am against something like an Ahri, I will just hug my ADC - it's really hard for the Ahri to land her E on my ADC because I will be in the way to block it. The Ahri has to significantly outplay me (e.g. if I didn't pay attention or didn't see the Ahri coming) to land her E even if my ADC does not move at all.

LeBlanc also suffers this problem, but Fizz is worse. His ultimate is his key skill and it's a linear collision skillshot that doesn't even immediately do damage.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 10 2012 02:22 GMT
#2868
On December 10 2012 11:19 Kaneh wrote:
can someone give me a general build order for darius? seems like i want cdr/tank, but dunno where to get most of it from.

You just don't pick him. :[
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 10 2012 02:23 GMT
#2869
On December 10 2012 11:15 Numy wrote:
Xpecial leveling Bloodboil level 1 and not iceball oO Why would he do that.


thats standard afaik, why would you level iceball lv1
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 10 2012 02:24 GMT
#2870
On December 10 2012 11:19 Kaneh wrote:
can someone give me a general build order for darius? seems like i want cdr/tank, but dunno where to get most of it from.


+ Show Spoiler [invalid soon but...] +

black cleaver black cleaver black cleaver black cleaver
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 10 2012 02:26 GMT
#2871
St.Vicious is so bad in this patch >.>, but tbh he's been slumping even before this patch, very unimpressive play by him overall. This new patch though should be good for St.V, since there should be more gold available for jungler overall.
liftlift > tsm
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 02:26:43
December 10 2012 02:26 GMT
#2872
On December 10 2012 11:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 11:15 Numy wrote:
Xpecial leveling Bloodboil level 1 and not iceball oO Why would he do that.


thats standard afaik, why would you level iceball lv1


It's a 2v1 vs a Cho? Why wouldn't you level iceball level 1?
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 02:28:53
December 10 2012 02:27 GMT
#2873
The throwbaron by Curse, why would they even think they could do it ><?!

I don't understand how a pro level team would say "Hey let's do baron at 15 minutes without any chance of being able to do it" *throws up hands* Curse makes me so confused sometimes.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 10 2012 02:31 GMT
#2874
On December 10 2012 11:27 Parnage wrote:
The throwbaron by Curse, why would they even think they could do it ><?!

I don't understand how a pro level team would say "Hey let's do baron at 15 minutes without any chance of being able to do it" *throws up hands* Curse makes me so confused sometimes.

I think they overestimated double AD damage output.

But as you can see double AD is very strong though, can bully out towers ezpz.
liftlift > tsm
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
December 10 2012 02:35 GMT
#2875
On December 10 2012 11:19 Kaneh wrote:
can someone give me a general build order for darius? seems like i want cdr/tank, but dunno where to get most of it from.


Double Dorans --> Phage --> etcetc. Glacial/Hexdrinker/Giants Belt into Sunfire/Warmogs w/e. That was the standard atleaast.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 10 2012 02:42 GMT
#2876
lol, this TSM vs Curse game is so fucking silly. S3 patch nerves, too funny.
liftlift > tsm
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
December 10 2012 02:44 GMT
#2877
That baron throw...
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 10 2012 02:44 GMT
#2878
On December 10 2012 11:26 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 11:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:15 Numy wrote:
Xpecial leveling Bloodboil level 1 and not iceball oO Why would he do that.


thats standard afaik, why would you level iceball lv1


It's a 2v1 vs a Cho? Why wouldn't you level iceball level 1?


youre usually not supposed to use iceball at all in laning unless all in/near all in trading. It costs too much mana and does too little damage to be used as harass.
SgtSquiglz
Profile Joined December 2010
United States668 Posts
December 10 2012 02:44 GMT
#2879
On December 10 2012 11:42 wei2coolman wrote:
lol, this TSM vs Curse game is so fucking silly. S3 patch nerves, too funny.


I think Wombat called it an 1100 elo game lol. That was just so sloppy by both teams.
Take anything I say with a grain of salt.....I suck at this game. Also, Go Blue!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 02:50:48
December 10 2012 02:47 GMT
#2880
On December 10 2012 11:44 SgtSquiglz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 11:42 wei2coolman wrote:
lol, this TSM vs Curse game is so fucking silly. S3 patch nerves, too funny.


I think Wombat called it an 1100 elo game lol. That was just so sloppy by both teams.

more like 800 elo, so fucking silly. Curse needs to learn how to deal with baron situations better, that's been a biggest cause of their losses, than any single roster issue.

Though Curse was behind in gold count most of that game, i still thought they had control of the game at that time, and threw it w/ the 2nd baron attempt.

pretty poor showing from both teams. there's a reason why NA Scene is considered trash.


Also, observation from a lot of recent pro matches, it seems jungler farm is starting to be more equivalent to top lane farm now, so it seems late game, junglers will have harder impact in lategame fight. Perhaps we'll see some more carry heavy junglers, over utility junglers soon.
liftlift > tsm
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