EPT[Patch 1.0.0.152: Preseason 3] General Discussion - Page 146
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 10 2012 12:45 DonKey_ wrote: There is no bot lane I have seen lose more that CRS NA's. Cop is a mediocre at best AD(plenty of solo queue AD's with more skill) and Elementz doesn't even look like a pro player. Their A-game is going even with other teams. Meh, I think you underestimate Cop. He's probably got one of the best teamfighting ADC's in NA, his laning phase is definitely a step behind the other pro AD's for sure. And, Crs has historically been beating TSM like 4 times in a row before the s3 patch. I think right now it's just s3 nerves/jitters. People still getting use to patch. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 10 2012 12:45 DonKey_ wrote: There is no bot lane I have seen lose more that CRS NA's. Cop is a mediocre at best AD(plenty of solo queue AD's with more skill) and Elementz doesn't even look like a pro player. Their A-game is going even with other teams bot lanes. In certain situations it's CLEAR that Elementz does not know how to play. It was shown today with that Taric "escape", but there are plenty of other examples. | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On December 10 2012 12:47 Crownlol wrote: What was the double AD comp I heard mentioned? Both teams played AD Ezreal mid along with the AD/support bot at least once in their games. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On December 10 2012 12:50 HazMat wrote: Imagine of all the things teams can do with homeguard. If you're fighting at your inhib or nexus towers and 5 of you get homeguard.... my god. I'm actually excited to see what pro teams can do (not NA though, NA is retarded and will not innovate anything in their life). In CLG EU we trust | ||
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DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
On December 10 2012 12:48 wei2coolman wrote: Meh, I think you underestimate Cop. He's probably got one of the best teamfighting ADC's in NA, his laning phase is definitely a step behind the other pro AD's for sure. And, Crs has historically been beating TSM like 4 times in a row before the s3 patch. I think right now it's just s3 nerves/jitters. People still getting use to patch. Thing is, there is few and far between games where curse's bot lane actually doesn't come out of laning behind any team they face. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On December 10 2012 12:50 HazMat wrote: Imagine of all the things teams can do with homeguard. If you're fighting at your inhib or nexus towers and 5 of you get homeguard.... my god. I'm actually excited to see what pro teams can do (not NA though, NA is retarded and will not innovate anything in their life). Somebody had homeguards boots in one game, on a Kha'Zix (think it was yesterday, can't remember). Homeguard speed boost + evolved E meant the other team thought they could take an inhib and suddenly a clinky purple ball rushed them faster than a Rammus and EW'd into them to put down the hurt and force them off the inhib tower. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
I love when something that seems innocuous at first (wtf? it doesn't do anything once I leave base) turns out to have really good applications. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I've been going Deathcap > Seraphs > Void Staff > DFG, just getting DFG for the CDR. Wondering if something else might be better than DFG, though. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 10 2012 13:07 sob3k wrote: Man, I really was going to buy ziggs but now I don't think I am because they nerfed Grail so hard....That buffed grail was basically what made him strong, there is no alternative. Morello's not good enough for you? | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
is the build for ziggs every other build is bad and you should feel bad | ||
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Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
Grail was stupid strong on release. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
Tried chalice/SV, but it gives no damage, chalice/haunting guise, but no cdr. I was considering axing chalice as a whole but then mana would actually become a problem outside of laning. I'm willing to test chalice/morello's since it gives around the same stats as grail for about 200 more gold. Anybody have other ideas? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I mean for Nunu top obv. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On December 10 2012 14:22 101toss wrote: Need help coming up for a replacement on grail for the top yeti Tried chalice/SV, but it gives no damage, chalice/haunting guise, but no cdr. I was considering axing chalice as a whole but then mana would actually become a problem outside of laning. I'm willing to test chalice/morello's since it gives around the same stats as grail for about 200 more gold. Anybody have other ideas? stop playing nunu top is the best suggestion i can give you | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On December 10 2012 14:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: stop playing nunu top is the best suggestion i can give you I don't think cleaver stacking on garen will last for more than a week Also I could just buy grail anyways (as I do now), but the 30 ap nerf does feel bad, despite the combination of stats being great for nunu. It's still cost effective anyways since you end up paying 920 for 30 ap, infinite mana, and 5% cdr | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Doesn't give damage but makes your AD more or less unkillable, which fits with Nunu's function of making the AD spit out stupid amounts of damage anyway. | ||
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